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LOL in a suit wrote: <quoted text>That one is a typical religie they can not have a discussion. I know, So many spend so much time reading a single book and refuse to even attempt to learn what is known and available to be known then get all uppity when they actually go out in public and talk to others that actually enjoy learning. They think calling someone a Know It All is an insult, It's a compliment,,, It just means they agree that you know more than them.... What they would love is for those that have a bit of a knowledge base to be humble and pretend to not know what they know so they don't have to face their limited knowledge base... I had one guy reply and just went off on me after I posted my postulate in one of the science threads and told me no back holler hillbilly wrote it, The he called me a Plagiarist and posted 4 or 5 links to sites where parts of the postulate appeared... I never heard from him after I pointed out that ever link he supplied was to other sites I had discussed it on over the years and all the links were to my writings...
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Yes and Amen wrote: <quoted text>Hahaha!
Whatever joy you can get out of it!
God is real :-) "So you say, but..... You get the point....
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Yes and Amen wrote: <quoted text>Wrong!
God is real!
I've tried to kill myself, and He Stopped me...
He's done so much more for my life, and others!
Get to know Him... You'll be Glad you did! It's great that you didn't kill yourself and if you believe it was God and not you then ok. But why dovetail that belief into denying science and the other crazy stuff Fundamentalists do?
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havent forgotten
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MirrorMan wrote: <quoted text>
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."
Is the New Testament Jewish? Are the ten commandments Buddhist or Hindu?
"In God we trust" wasn't added to paper money until 1956 and it hasn't done much to the crime rate - or kept televangelists from getting filthy rich.
Taking the ten commandments off the wall of a courthouse doesn't increase the number of plaintiffs in front of the judge.
If you want to look where our children are heading, maybe you should look at who they hang around with and what they watch on tv. Might be a good idea to help them with their homework, too - or maybe they should help you with yours? another nice sensible comment from you. did I forget to tell you I am glad you are posting on this thread? if so, consider yourself welcomed!
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LOL in a suit wrote: <quoted text>There is no proof of any gods. I agree with that. isn't it easy? I do not understand why anyone bothers to claim there is no god, when it can be easily shown that any alleged proof of any alleged god is faulty. That is good enough. We can take them one by one and say they are silly or ridiculous or evil, or stolen from other cultures, or other such value judgments or historical citations, as well. We do not need to claim there is no God. If a nice one comes along we can deal with it - "I'll cross that bridge when I come to it" is a phrase often used when one expects to encounter no bridges at all.
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Quantummist wrote: <quoted text>
Seriously, I would take it a Step further... Don't trust what I say in any field. or Anyone else for that matter.... Take it as a view and Validate or Debunk it for yourself with research... I did not write to trust you about science, I wrote that it is ok to ask you about science. What you write about science is very interesting. If I want to have interest in subjects without doing the research to come to a conclusion about what is True, that is normal for me. I read David Hume when I was l7 and I appreciated the message. Literate science and literate philosophy are fun in and of themselves, without even considering what is True. Not that much different from reading Lady Chatterly's Lover.
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Not quite as much fun as DHL and Nancy Drew books, and tougher to wade through - but a nice part of the variety of life.... Kant was not much fun, however. Spinoza was.
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aWitchintheWoods wrote: <quoted text>
Bravo!! Well said! except the part about Mary. who knows whether such a person existed? and if she did have a baby, who knows whether she was raped? maybe women who are raped get blamed for it more than one knows - in various times and cultures - and claiming that a god did it is at least one alternative to telling the truth and not being believed. maybe some of the ignorant men back then would be more likely to believe a god did it than that the woman had no choice and was forced. the sexist nature of the comment you liked - which was otherwise mostly reasonable - annoyed me somewhat. even the most enlightened men on some subjects, are neaderthals on others.
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Gumps Own wrote: Religion creates an imaginary sickness (SIN) to sell you an imaginary cure (Jesus). Religion breeds hate. Religion destroys lives. Do you realize that if Churches had not caused the dark ages that the world be 1000 years more advanced. Also without Religion we would still have things in this world like the World Trade Center. I don't see how people can actually believe that a person from the sky, came down and got a woman pregnant. Isn't it a much more believable scenario that Mary was cheating on her husband and got Pregnant. I bet if there was D.N.A testing back then, they would've found out that baby Jesus was actually the neighbors kid. You base everything that you know about Religion on "The Bible". A book that nobody knows who actually wrote. A book that has been translated hundreds of times. Languages do not translate word for word. For all you know whoever wrote the bible could have been writing a science fiction novel. Also if the Bible covers since the beginning of time, why is there nothing in the bible about Dinosaurs. If the bible is proof that god exists, then Spider-man comics are proof that Spider-man is real. And the Lord of the Rings is proof that Hobbits, Elves, and Orcs are real. The Walking Dead Comics are proof that Zombies are real. until the day comes that Jesus himself comes down out of the sky, walks up to me and turns water to wine or some Sh*t like that, I will have to choose not to believe in things that there are no proof of. If anyone can show me one shred of proof that god exists please feel free. the slander of a fictional woman was unnecessary. read my above comment.
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bigballs wrote: RE HAVENT FORGOTTEN /You mybe forgotten that all wars are in gods name .To fight whats right and whats wrong .If we didnt belive in any god .On any side there would not b any wars . ITS IN OUR NATURE to fight . to belive in something that is not true . it has been with us all along ,we fight country against county. white against black . WE are nothing more than animals . walk down the steet open your eyes .its all a round . I am not sure all wars are in gods name. probably many if not most of them use the name of some god on their side - or claim to be on some god's side. I think that land hunger and resource hunger, overpopulation, tribalism, nationalism, ethnic loyalties, and other factors are involved - many of them greedy, some of them maybe out of fear - some maybe out of what is seen as necessity, and many either in self defense or preemptive because of rumors of wmd's or similar thought-up threats. there is a variety of warlike qualities among animals. maybe even plants strive to eliminate other plants, for various reasons, even beyond the need for sun, water, and nutrients...has that ever been studied?
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Yiago wrote: <quoted text>
I agree except I would add that you simply cannot research everything. If I don't know much about a particular field and I can't research it very much I will grant provisional trust in whatever ideas in the field are dominant. Subject to change with further understanding.
I know little about engine repair. I'm content letting my mechanic handle it. He has not violated the trust yet. I agree with provisional trust in whatever technology in a field makes my car run better. I do not trust the technocrats about policy matters, and I do not trust scientists' prevailing views about the cosmos. I do not have to have any view about the cosmos, in order to live my life. I like to look at the stars. I need to know enough not to look at the sun straighton. I do not need to know whether Big Bang theory is true. I do not see why anyone has a need to know it, except for compelling curiosity and egomania, in whatever combination! on policy matters, some of the experts may be bought out, and some may be out of date. I can use my own alternative to expertise, which is risk assessment, to question views that have consequences in the real world. If we do not know enough, and do thus and so, will it be more of a risk, or less of one, than if we do something different. That is my approach on global warming (man-influenced), chemical and biological and nuclear development and use and disposal, sustainable energy vs fossil fuels - and similar issues. I do not trust scientists paid by tobacco companies or Koch brothers.
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sam wrote: i am not a cristion im sorry but i do not go to chrch nothing to be sorry for, unless you do something even more harmful than going to church. may I suggest sleeping late on Sunday mornings as a harmless alternative? watching talking heads on Fox may or may not be worse than going to church. it would depend on the church.
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havent forgotten wrote: <quoted text>I agree with provisional trust in whatever technology in a field makes my car run better. I do not trust the technocrats about policy matters, and I do not trust scientists' prevailing views about the cosmos. I do not have to have any view about the cosmos, in order to live my life. I like to look at the stars. I need to know enough not to look at the sun straighton. I do not need to know whether Big Bang theory is true. I do not see why anyone has a need to know it, except for compelling curiosity and egomania, in whatever combination!
on policy matters, some of the experts may be bought out, and some may be out of date. I can use my own alternative to expertise, which is risk assessment, to question views that have consequences in the real world. If we do not know enough, and do thus and so, will it be more of a risk, or less of one, than if we do something different. That is my approach on global warming (man-influenced), chemical and biological and nuclear development and use and disposal, sustainable energy vs fossil fuels - and similar issues. I do not trust scientists paid by tobacco companies or Koch brothers. Much of that sounds good but in general it leaves out the concept of unintended consequences... Man Influenced Global Warming... Sounds good to take the view that If there is a chance it's a correct Theory and we take the drastic measures most Believers call for we could end up with millions of people dieing due to energy not being available when it's needed... I can take each and every new claimed alternative energy source and point to deadly and dangerous unintended consequences of each. Such as producing ethanol requiring 1.2Gal of gas and 400 gal of water to make each gal of Ethanol, Wind Mills causing damage to people due to low freq sound waves and killing millions of birds, electric cars producing more deadly pollutants into the environment that a regular gas powered vehicle of similar size.. and on and on... As for those nasty cig's... Find me an answer to this one detail.. In the last 20 years the percentage of smokers has dropped around 60% nation wide... Why has there been almost Zero reduction in so called Smoking related disease? In some cases they have risen in new onsets... Death rates of those diseases have dropped due to improvement in treatment and advancing technology in early detection but the actual numbers of new cases remains about flat.... But as an unintended consequence 1000's of farmers lost their farms and 10's of 1000's of acres have gone to waste...
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Yes and Amen wrote: <quoted text>No mistakes... Manuscript 95% perfect, with only a few spelling errors...
Science books blew it when they said Dinos died out long before man... and then have the gall to say... they found a Living Fossil... yet cannot explain why dino tracks, and human track are in the SAME stratta, and pictorials of dinos in caves, AND lodges depicting how to kill a t-rex like critter...
No... They are wrong, and fools follow them!
Get to Know God... You'll be Glad you did! A mustard seed vs. a grain of truth? Ok..let me get this straight. The universe was created 6,000 years ago, plus or minus a week. God didn't spontaneously endow Adam and Able (Eve was not a suffragette, she was chattel) with the ability to jot down records, but accuracy was guaranteed, since the grapevine game wasn't invented until the tower of Babel. While not usually noted for being patient, God waited 2,000 years for heathens to come up with the fundamentals of writing, then another 2,500 years for the Jews to get around to starting on the Torah. But that isn't really as long as it seems because the average (Jew's) lifespan was hundreds of years. Meanwhile, the Oltecs, the Xia, the Vedics and others were living large and chillin' with Lucifer - who knew that by the 18th century "know it all" atheists would be looking for ammo to hassle Christians, so being the evil joker, he planted fossils all over the world and forced a measurable portion of the population to turn gay. To go one better, he snuck demon agents into history - subversive imps like Archimedes, Pythogoras, Hippocrates, Newton, Copernicus, Galileo, Voltaire, Descartes, Darwin, Pasteur, Maxwell, Einstein, Hubble, Hawking.... And that about covers the basics..
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Quantummist wrote: <quoted text>
Only to those that have a limited education or intellect.... When someone such as your fine self knows so little most people will seem all knowing.... Some are an expert in the field of fools.
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Believer wrote: <quoted text>
Some are an expert in the field of fools. And some, you for example, are a fool in a field of experts and too dumb to know when to sulk away as inadequate to the task at hand...
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Believer wrote: <quoted text>
Some are an expert in the field of fools. Expertise is easy to achieve when the subjects are simple and abundant.
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Okay we set back and watch as we push God to the side. When we push the bible under the drawer instead of top of the dresser. We stop being nice to others, and we stop caring for those in need. We take all that can be given and never give in return. We forgot how there is beauty in everyone and everything , it just depends on how it is shown in the end. Then just then when the end is near, we began to wonder , if he was there and will he be again? We begin to have faith that he will lead us home on a pieceful journey. Now they say we go back to children as we get older and see life like before , if that is so why wait , can we all not become children again and love and live for each other and grow old doing the same?
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How similar are chimps and humans in genetic makeup? When we finished the chimpanzee genome in 2005 and lined it up next to the human genome, we made the amazing discovery that our DNA is almost 99 percent identical. That seems like a bit of a paradox given all the differences we see between ourselves and chimps. But, in fact, it's not a paradox, because all it takes to make a new species, all it takes to make a human, is a few changes in just the right places. How did you begin to hone in on those "right places"? Given that our DNA sequence has about three billion "letters" in it, one percent is still a pretty vast territory to search. There are about 15 million human-specific letters that have changed in the last six million years, since humans and chimps had a common ancestor. And what did you find when you ran your programs? After months of programming and debugging and running my computer code on a massive computer cluster, I finally had some results. The top hit was a sequence that was 118 letters long. And, amazingly, 18 out of those letters were different between human and chimp. Difference between chicken and chimp genome? To put that in perspective, the same sequence is in the chicken genome and has only two differences between chimp and chicken. There have been hundreds of millions of years of evolution separating chicken and chimp, and yet we only see two changes. Whereas in six million years, a blink of the eye in evolution's time, we see 18 changes in this stretch of the human genome. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/dna-hu...
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