Since: Apr 12

Hilliard, OH

#5891 Jun 30, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You responded to my comment about the change of Congressional leadership the past election. It's assumed that since that was the subject at hand, you meant change party leadership of Congress.
He did. And I called him on it. As always, he denies what he said and calls everybody else stupid liars.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#5892 Jun 30, 2012
Kramers Attorney wrote:
<quoted text>He did. And I called him on it. As always, he denies what he said and calls everybody else stupid liars.
He probably looked it up and felt foolish. LOL!
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#5893 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
<quoted text>
Do what? Admit what, that over 86% of the county tax revenue stream goes to Medicaid? Let me see, what else were you including? Dedicated funding streams like sales tax revenues that have increased here to 2.7%? Revenue that goes to fund many associated burdens placed on the county?
Why am I even arguing with an ignoramus like you, who seeks only to distract and obfuscate away from the principle point... that Medicaid costs have escalated to the point where they are bankrupting the states, and your president, in his infinite wisdom, now has passed a healthcare overhaul which seeks to EXPAND Medicaid coverage within those states where he has NOT granted a waiver for political purposes.
Excuse me, I didn't include SALES tax revenue, which predominately funds back to the state from the county, in a county now widely known as the welfare capital of the country?
Get a life.
It's clear that's the best you can do, but good effort. Apology accepted.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#5894 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
Our president and AG put guns into the hands of evil people, for the purpose of blaming honest gun dealers.
Most corrupt administration in history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GKqbGZ8hmJIXX&feature=pla yer_embedded
You will believe anything, won't you?

If that was Obama's agenda, what was W's?
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#5895 Jun 30, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You responded to my comment about the change of Congressional leadership the past election. It's assumed that since that was the subject at hand, you meant change party leadership of Congress.
Maybe that's your problem. Instead of reading what is written, you assume. When you write your nonspecific declarations you assume people know what you really mean.

I think we've made some significant progress today.

“"Beau-Se'ant”

Since: Jan 09

Manchester

#5896 Jun 30, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
It's clear that's the best you can do, but good effort. Apology accepted.
Get a life. You need one.

“"Beau-Se'ant”

Since: Jan 09

Manchester

#5897 Jun 30, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
You will believe anything, won't you?
If that was Obama's agenda, what was W's?
Congratulations. You win the Obama bumper sticker of the week for that one:

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.42784...

“"Beau-Se'ant”

Since: Jan 09

Manchester

#5898 Jun 30, 2012
Get your Obama calender here... CHECK OUT THE MAY PAGE!:

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.41308...
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#5899 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
<quoted text>
Congratulations. You win the Obama bumper sticker of the week for that one:
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.42784...
See? You are doing it again. You aren't responding to what I wrote and you are making up for yourself what you think I was saying.

I was not blaming W. for the program. You assigned a nefarious motive for Obama for having the same program W. had. I asked what W.'s motive was.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#5900 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
<quoted text>
Get a life. You need one.
You are going to write "I know you are but what am I?" soon, aren't you?
Loren Eberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#5901 Jun 30, 2012
US the Government of this Representative Republic:
It’s the responsibility of the majority of 53% of US the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the 47% nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; to elect President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
That respects, regards, and complies with USA Labor Law and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding every corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. This enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
US the Government have successfully elected President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members too long. That defies USA Labor Law and Realities demands.
That hold Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed workers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
To pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream. Pay bank interest on purchase price of American Dream for 30 years. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions. Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.
Defying USA Labor Law and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $15 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. Then pay the debt with the $7.25 per hour government mandated labor wage.

“"Beau-Se'ant”

Since: Jan 09

Manchester

#5902 Jun 30, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
See? You are doing it again. You aren't responding to what I wrote and you are making up for yourself what you think I was saying.
I was not blaming W. for the program. You assigned a nefarious motive for Obama for having the same program W. had. I asked what W.'s motive was.
Lay it out for us, please, with detailed credible proof, that W did anything remotely associated with actually walking thousands of automatic weapons across the border, putting them in the hands of the drug cartels, and then trying to blame the whole thing on legal gun dealers stateside.

Mind you, no leftwing lunatic fringe blog sites.

Your Messiah is into this up to his eyeballs, and it is NOT going away. Deal with it. We have the most corrupt administration in history, and that's saying something.

“"Beau-Se'ant”

Since: Jan 09

Manchester

#5903 Jun 30, 2012
Nixon was impeached for far less.
Duke for Mayor

Hartville, OH

#5904 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
Duke,
Listen, and learn, it's your America too. You can choose to remain a liberal hyperpartisan, and therefore a loser, or you can help move America forward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4oj2FFtDVqwXX&feature=rel ated
Maybe you should learn how to read:

http://www.rockinst.org/pdf/health_care/2009-...

woof
Duke for Mayor

Hartville, OH

#5905 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
<quoted text>
You apparently missed my rebuttal, which confirmed that fact that over 86% of my entire county tax revenue went to pay for Medicaid.
If you support a liar who seeks to do nothing more than spin bullsh!t to obfuscate the truth, then you are no better.
Here, since you missed it, the unequivocal truth... know this.. I NEVER, EVER LIE OR MISLEAD. Not that you matter, but here it is, unless of course you don't believe Chuck Schumer:
http://www.schumer.senate.gov/Newsroom/record...
http://www.rockinst.org/pdf/health_care/2009-...

woof
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#5906 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
<quoted text>
Lay it out for us, please, with detailed credible proof, that W did anything remotely associated with actually walking thousands of automatic weapons across the border, putting them in the hands of the drug cartels, and then trying to blame the whole thing on legal gun dealers stateside.
Mind you, no leftwing lunatic fringe blog sites.
Your Messiah is into this up to his eyeballs, and it is NOT going away. Deal with it. We have the most corrupt administration in history, and that's saying something.
1. You still aren't answering my question.

2. Your strawman assumes facts not in evidence.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#5907 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
<quoted text>
Lay it out for us, please, with detailed credible proof, that W did anything remotely associated with actually walking thousands of automatic weapons across the border, putting them in the hands of the drug cartels, and then trying to blame the whole thing on legal gun dealers stateside.
Mind you, no leftwing lunatic fringe blog sites.
Your Messiah is into this up to his eyeballs, and it is NOT going away. Deal with it. We have the most corrupt administration in history, and that's saying something.
"There is no direct evidence that anyone involved in the creation of Fast and Furious intended to increase gun crime in Mexico. The fact that someone looked to Fast and Furious for anecdotal evidence after the fact says almost nothing about the origins of the program. And on closer inspection, this theory isn’t any more understandable than the one that doesn’t require accusing the administration of murdering scores of Mexican citizens and at least one American law-enforcement agent for political gain. Even if we assume the Obama administration places no value whatsoever on human life, it’s hard to see how the gun-control scheme would have passed a cost-benefit analysis," the National Review writer said.
Duke for Mayor

Hartville, OH

#5908 Jun 30, 2012
Ok Templar.

I was somewhat mistaken, and so were you.

New York State and North Carolina appear to an anomaly in their funding policies for Medicaid, in that individual Counties are responsible for very large amounts of "local shares", of funding. The vast majority of other states pool that responsibility statewide, and of the 27 other states that do require "local shares", the vast majority only require the local governments to cover administrative costs.

The result in NYS is inequity, in that counties with higher poverty rates (and therefore more people on Medicaid) pay higher local shares than those with lower poverty rates. I was unaware of that.

http://www.cbcny.org/sites/default/files/REPO...

But the numbers cited by you and Schumer still appear to be overstated. High certainly, but overstated.

From page two of the County Exec's budget address, the 2% property tax levy increase from 2011 to 2012 amounts to 1.286 million dollars, meaning 2012 revenues from property taxes = about 65.586 million dollars.

http://ocgov.net/sites/default/files/exec/bud...

From pages 122 and 115 of the County's 2012 budget, the county will spend 55.198 million dollars on its "local share" of Medicaid under the State's funding formula, but it will receive a net of 4.771 million dollars from either state or federal funds to cover administrative costs.

http://ocgov.net/oneida/sites/default/files/b...

End result, taking into account property tax revenues and the state/federal funds only, the county is paying 55.198 million and receiving revenues of 70.357 million (property taxes + federal/state admin).

55.198/70.357 = 78.5%

But Oneida County also has at least an 8.75% sales tax rate (it may have been raised recently http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S48... ), which appears to bring in roughly 120 million dollars annually as well. It seems unclear as to whether any of that revenue is also allocated to the local share of medicaid costs, but if it is, that would reduce the percentage of the property tax levy being applied to it.

Either way, New York State's Medicaid funding system is screwy. I'll grant you that much.

Satisfied?

woof
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#5909 Jun 30, 2012
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#5910 Jun 30, 2012
The Last Templar wrote:
Nixon was impeached for far less.
Oscar Danilo Blandón Reyes (born 1936) headed Nicaragua's agricultural imports under Anastasio Somoza. He has a master's degree in marketing. When the Somoza government was overthrown in 1979, Blandón fled to the United States, and then raised money for the Nicaraguan Democratic Force (FDN), a Contra group. According to many sources, including reporter Gary Webb, Blandón sold drugs and weapons (via Ronald Lister) to the Crips in Los Angeles. Blandón claimed that the Central Intelligence Agency protected him, allowing him to operate without fear of reprisal.

Blandón was arrested on drug charges in 1986 by the FBI. In May 1992, Blandón was convicted in US District Court (San Diego) on the federal charge of "conspiracy to possess cocaine with intent to distribute." He was sentenced to 24 months in federal prison, but was released due to time served. Blandón was a major drug trafficker, famously supplying Ricky Ross with millions of dollars worth of cocaine on a daily basis.

Following his imprisonment, Blandón was hired by the Drug Enforcement Administration and salaried at $42,000. Blandon was not a US Citizen/National, and is the only known foreigner to not be deported following conviction on drug trafficking charges in US History. The INS granted Blandón a green card, despite the criminal convictions, to allow him to work for the DEA. The DEA claims that Blandón is no longer on their payroll, and his whereabouts are unknown.

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