Missouri's Prop C: Voters Set to Challenge Health Reform

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Missouri voters go to the polls Tuesday for the first-in-the-nation referendum on President Obama's health care plan.
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The truth

Mountain Home, AR

#19310 May 8, 2012
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

The truth

Mountain Home, AR

#19311 May 8, 2012
** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as theAssociation of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

** Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.(Death counseling..)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.



















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The real USA First

United States

#19312 May 8, 2012
The truth wrote:
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.
** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
When you get sick in England( can you find that on the map) or France or Taiwan....they take care of you NO CHARGE!!!!

Why do you want to turn the USA into a gigantic version of Arkansas?

“Nobama care”

Since: Mar 11

just a tax hike

#19314 May 8, 2012
NOT The real USA First wrote:
<quoted text>
When you get sick in England( can you find that on the map) or France or Taiwan....they take care of you NO CHARGE!!!!
Why do you want to turn the USA into a gigantic version of Arkansas?
Better than what you anti American bleeding heart liberal commie jerks want to turn this great Country into !

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#19315 May 8, 2012
Norton wrote:
<quoted text> ...
I am not talking about oil reserves. I am talking about oil and gas that is in the ground. We need to get it for us.... you know.... us Americans. Yes, I have heard that they would just sell it to another country to make a better profit. There, perhaps, should be a way to stop that.
Recoding a medicare charge, if it was accurate in the first place, is illegal.
The point of the rose-colored glasses remark is that you can't see the trees for the forrest. In other words, you are a block head.
Yes, I think there will always be wars. There will never be peace on this earth until Jesus Christ comes back again. We need to continue to support Israel, too. The Bible says so!
'nuff said!...
1. Oil in the ground is oil reserve, as far as I am concerned. If you want to have the companies sell it, fine. I bet you often squander a lot of your resources, too.

2. So nobody ever re-codes a Medicare charge, huh? <.snicker!.> Sure, "Norton." The world is perfect (for the healthcare industry)! I know of companies which sell computer programs which select codes which have a high probability of being accepted by Medicare.

3. What do your mean, I "can't see the trees for the forrest"? YOU can't see the Forrest for the Gump! Were I you, "Norton," I would think twice before calling anyone ELSE a "blockhead."

4. The Bible says lots of things which aren't true. One of them is that the Hebrews are "God's Chosen People." If you buy into that, you are foolish. I will admit that, if I had written the Bible, "God's Chosen People" would have been "German Scotch-Irish Indians." So I do not blame the Hebrews. But I blame you for falling for it.

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#19316 May 8, 2012
[QUOTE who="just sayin' "]<quoted text>
If this insurance prop is so good then why why why is a non government worker forced to
Have it and all government workers are set up with completely different insurance. Good ol democrats will not be happy until all Americans allow the government to pay for all they need. A complete society dependent on all government programs. Lazy society expecting it all given to them for free. What kind of a life does
That sound like. A sad one to me. Very poor country especially if they keep turning a blind eye to all
The illegal aliens coming here to live our free life given to us by the democrats who want all dependent. Very sad to all who want to allow even more of our rights taken away.[/QUOTE]

Isn't it time for you to get back to hearing Rush tell you what you think?

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#19317 May 8, 2012
The truth wrote:
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.
** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
ROFL! I see that you just made that up!

You wouldn't by any chance have a reference to those falsehoods, would you?

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#19318 May 8, 2012
The truth wrote:
** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as theAssociation of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
** Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.(Death counseling..)
** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.
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Just because you read those lies above in an email, or on a Neo-CON website, that does not mean that they are the "truth."

I will bet you that those quoted lies above actually came from Neo-CON comments two years ago and reference page numbers in one of the original drafts of the healthcare bill AS IT WAS BEING DEBATED IN CONGRESS, AND BEFORE A REVISED VERSION WAS PASSED.

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#19319 May 8, 2012
The real USA First wrote:
<quoted text>
When you get sick in England( can you find that on the map) or France or Taiwan.... they take care of you NO CHARGE!!!!
Why do you want to turn the USA into a gigantic version of Arkansas?
When you get sick in Israel, there is a very nominal co-pay for ANY healthcare service. I forget the amount, but it is like $5 in US dollars.

All of the "anti-Healthcare law" comments on here are sponsored, or planted, by the fat-cat US healthcare industry, which has a vested interest in keeping their outrageous profits. US citizens pay TWICE what the citizens of other countries pay for healthcare, AND GET SUCH A LOW QUALITY OF CARE THAT THE US IS DOWN AT NUMBER 37 OUT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.
Norton

Kansas City, MO

#19320 May 8, 2012
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Oil in the ground is oil reserve, as far as I am concerned. If you want to have the companies sell it, fine. I bet you often squander a lot of your resources, too.
2. So nobody ever re-codes a Medicare charge, huh? <.snicker!.> Sure, "Norton." The world is perfect (for the healthcare industry)! I know of companies which sell computer programs which select codes which have a high probability of being accepted by Medicare.
3. What do your mean, I "can't see the trees for the forrest"? YOU can't see the Forrest for the Gump! Were I you, "Norton," I would think twice before calling anyone ELSE a "blockhead."
4. The Bible says lots of things which aren't true. One of them is that the Hebrews are "God's Chosen People." If you buy into that, you are foolish. I will admit that, if I had written the Bible, "God's Chosen People" would have been "German Scotch-Irish Indians." So I do not blame the Hebrews. But I blame you for falling for it.
I still think you are a blockhead because you just don't get it! You don't understand how medicare works either. You're an atheist so I don't expect you to understand the Bible.'nuff said!

CHEERS!

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#19321 May 8, 2012
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
I still think you are a blockhead because you just don't get it! You don't understand how medicare works either. You're an atheist so I don't expect you to understand the Bible.'nuff said!...
tinyurl.com/sayclueless

“Nobama care”

Since: Mar 11

just a tax hike

#19322 May 8, 2012
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
When you get sick in Israel, there is a very nominal co-pay for ANY healthcare service. I forget the amount, but it is like $5 in US dollars.
All of the "anti-Healthcare law" comments on here are sponsored, or planted, by the fat-cat US healthcare industry, which has a vested interest in keeping their outrageous profits. US citizens pay TWICE what the citizens of other countries pay for healthcare, AND GET SUCH A LOW QUALITY OF CARE THAT THE US IS DOWN AT NUMBER 37 OUT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.
I agree with you on most of these points . But the Goverment does not need to run it either
dieselguy82

Springfield, MO

#19323 May 8, 2012
Vote to block healthcare reform then in November vote against Osama a.k.a Obama. Take our country back. BTW did yall know that rfid chip implanting is part of obamacare? one part of this chip can kill you if the government decides you arent playing by their rules. This is why I say anyone but Obama. Stop socialism
dieselguy82

Springfield, MO

#19324 May 8, 2012
Read the healthcare Law google it. Pretty scary shit How much control do you want the government to have?
no more obama

United States

#19325 May 8, 2012
If Obama's healthcare bill is so great, then why were Todd Akin and Kenny Hulshoff told they could not add an amendment to that bill that would include congressmen and senators to use that same healthcare?
Yellow Dawg sounds slightly pink.

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#19326 May 8, 2012
The real USA First wrote:
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I agree with you on most of these points . But the Goverment does not need to run it either
Surprise! The "Government" does not "run" healthcare as provided in the Healthcare Law. As now, you will be insured by privately-owned, non-governmental organizations.

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#19327 May 8, 2012
dieselguy82 wrote:
Vote to block healthcare reform then in November vote against Osama a.k.a Obama. Take our country back. BTW did yall know that rfid chip implanting is part of obamacare? one part of this chip can kill you if the government decides you arent playing by their rules. This is why I say anyone but Obama. Stop socialism
Your comment would be amusing, except that you, and lots of uninformed others, actually believe nonsense like this.

(Ummmm ... "healthcare reform" is not voted on by the public, so your advice to "vote to block healthcare reform" makes NO sense whatsoever. But what did I expect out of you?)

Show us your evidence:

1. That "RFid implanting" is part of "obamacare"
2. That "one part of this chip can kill you"

Socialism is where the government owns all means of production -- like all the factories. If you think that the US Government owns all of the factories, I recommend that you book the first available space flight to Newt Gingrich's space colony on the moon.

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#19328 May 8, 2012
dieselguy82 wrote:
Read the healthcare Law google it. Pretty scary shit How much control do you want the government to have?
"Pretty scary stuff" if you believe all of the propaganda and lies put out by the healthcare industry.

As an example, Sarah Palin LYING that the Healthcare Law will establish "death panels." Pure garbage! And I think that even Sarah knows that. But maybe she doesn't. She is "one of you."

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#19329 May 8, 2012
no more obama wrote:
If Obama's healthcare bill is so great, then why were Todd Akin and Kenny Hulshoff told they could not add an amendment to that bill that would include congressmen and senators to use that same healthcare?
Yellow Dawg sounds slightly pink.
I am slightly pink. I was out in the sun a little bit Saturday.

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#19330 May 8, 2012
Or maybe it's the wine.

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