Missouri's Prop C: Voters Set to Challenge Health Reform

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Missouri voters go to the polls Tuesday for the first-in-the-nation referendum on President Obama's health care plan.

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Where it always comes from: workers and business. And "business" gets its money from selling products made by workers. Thus, the ultimate answer is: the money comes from workers.
you are a idiot for wanting Obama care! im a believer everyone should have healthcare yes but government does not need any more control! especially fine you if you don't have any! people can't afford it! you must be one of those rich people? no no no no no Obama care!!!!!!!!!!

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Hee, hee......you woke up, finally! Got you stirred up, didn't I? You may be partially right on some things but........ the wars will never end. There will always be one somewhere. No, I still don't think they should reduce the military. Yes, take off your rose-colored glasses, Dawg, because haven't you noticed how careful you have to be when you say something about someone. It's either taken out of context or you're a racist or a hundred other reasons somebody wants to sue over.
I said people abuse medicaid (welfare). We will always have the poor but we also have the lazy. That's what I'm talkin' about. I imagine that there are doctors that abuse the system but if you will look at your medicare EOB you should notice that doctors don't get much pay from medicare or sometimes they don't approve the procedure and if they accept what medicare pays, they are the losers. I do think there needs to be some changes and investigations in the medical profession. I imagine doctors will agree to this, also. The oil that is produced in this country is a pittance of what it could be. You've got to know that! I know we are in a world economy. That is what scares me. We are getting behind. Why do you think things can be produced cheaper in, for instance, China? It's their form of government and I don't want to live that way.
Now go back to bed!...
1. I answer your comment, and you respond that you "got me stirred up"! Everyone knows who stirs whom up in this thread. Thanks for admitting that I "may be partially right"! ROFL! So you really think that there will always be wars?

2. I am not John Conlee. I do not wear rose-colored glasses. Did you have some sort of a point to make?

3. I have noticed that Medicare often does not pay 100% of what the doctor charges. I have noticed that the doctors still keep taking whatever is offered. And you should be told that, if a Medicare bill is not approved, the doctor simply "re-codes" it, and submits it again.

4. On July 16, 2009, the American Medical Association (AMA) wrote House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel that the AMA supported the $1 trillion dollar Democrat House healthcare bill. Of course, you and Rush Limbaugh know better.

5. Yes. The the US is in a world economy. You can wring your hands and be scared, if you wish. It will not do you any good.

6. Okay. The US only produces "a pittance" of oil, compared to what we could. Do you think that our oil reserves are unlimited? Do you advocate gutting America's strategic supply of oil, and spending the money on riotous living? We've got it! Let's waste it!(Did you ever hear of Easter Island?)

7. If you do not like China's government, simply don't go there.

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<quoted text> you are a idiot for wanting Obama care! im a believer everyone should have healthcare yes but government does not need any more control! especially fine you if you don't have any! people can't afford it! you must be one of those rich people? no no no no no Obama care!!!!!!!!!!
I do not need "Obama-care." I have good healthcare. Private insurance. Administered by the US government. Have had for almost 50 years.

All responsible politicians (and many others) agree that something has to be done about the sky-rocketing costs of healthcare in the US. Even Newt Gingrich agreed, several years ago, that the "individual mandate" would be a good idea, and would be required for a universal healthcare system to work in the US.

The fat-cat healthcare industry in the US has a good thing going, and does not want to lose it. So they hire lobbyists to Congress, and pay huge sums of money to propagandists to tell you that you do not want "Obama-care."
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1. I answer your comment, and you respond that you "got me stirred up"! Everyone knows who stirs whom up in this thread. Thanks for admitting that I "may be partially right"! ROFL! So you really think that there will always be wars?
2. I am not John Conlee. I do not wear rose-colored glasses. Did you have some sort of a point to make?
3. I have noticed that Medicare often does not pay 100% of what the doctor charges. I have noticed that the doctors still keep taking whatever is offered. And you should be told that, if a Medicare bill is not approved, the doctor simply "re-codes" it, and submits it again.
4. On July 16, 2009, the American Medical Association (AMA) wrote House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel that the AMA supported the $1 trillion dollar Democrat House healthcare bill. Of course, you and Rush Limbaugh know better.
5. Yes. The the US is in a world economy. You can wring your hands and be scared, if you wish. It will not do you any good.
6. Okay. The US only produces "a pittance" of oil, compared to what we could. Do you think that our oil reserves are unlimited? Do you advocate gutting America's strategic supply of oil, and spending the money on riotous living? We've got it! Let's waste it!(Did you ever hear of Easter Island?)
7. If you do not like China's government, simply don't go there.
I don't have any intention of going to China and I don't want their form of government here.

I am not talking about oil reserves. I am talking about oil and gas that is in the ground. We need to get it for us....you know....us Americans. Yes, I have heard that they would just sell it to another country to make a better profit. There, perhaps, should be a way to stop that.
Recoding a medicare charge, if it was accurate in the first place, is illegal.

The point of the rose-colored glasses remark is that you can't see the trees for the forrest. In other words, you are a block head.

Yes, I think there will always be wars. There will never be peace on this earth until Jesus Christ comes back again. We need to continue to support Israel, too. The Bible says so!

'nuff said!

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I don't have any intention of going to China and I don't want their form of government here.
I am not talking about oil reserves. I am talking about oil and gas that is in the ground. We need to get it for us....you know....us Americans. Yes, I have heard that they would just sell it to another country to make a better profit. There, perhaps, should be a way to stop that.
Recoding a medicare charge, if it was accurate in the first place, is illegal.
The point of the rose-colored glasses remark is that you can't see the trees for the forrest. In other words, you are a block head.
Yes, I think there will always be wars. There will never be peace on this earth until Jesus Christ comes back again. We need to continue to support Israel, too. The Bible says so!
'nuff said!
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NOrton a GOP ignorant mislead Tool of Satan
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<quoted text>No. It's not rocket science. But it is good government to protect the people from the greedy healthcare industry, and from greedy banks, and from greedy oil companies.

Protecting the people is not socialism. It is democracy at its finest.
If this insurance prop is so good then why why why is a non government worker forced to
Have it and all government workers are set up with completely different insurance. Good ol democrats will not be happy until all Americans allow the government to pay for all they need. A complete society dependent on all government programs. Lazy society expecting it all given to them for free. What kind of a life does
That sound like. A sad one to me. Very poor country especially if they keep turning a blind eye to all
The illegal aliens coming here to live our free life given to us by the democrats who want all dependent. Very sad to all who want to allow even more of our rights taken away.
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** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

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** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as theAssociation of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

** Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.(Death counseling..)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.



















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** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.
** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
When you get sick in England( can you find that on the map) or France or Taiwan....they take care of you NO CHARGE!!!!

Why do you want to turn the USA into a gigantic version of Arkansas?

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When you get sick in England( can you find that on the map) or France or Taiwan....they take care of you NO CHARGE!!!!
Why do you want to turn the USA into a gigantic version of Arkansas?
Better than what you anti American bleeding heart liberal commie jerks want to turn this great Country into !

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I am not talking about oil reserves. I am talking about oil and gas that is in the ground. We need to get it for us.... you know.... us Americans. Yes, I have heard that they would just sell it to another country to make a better profit. There, perhaps, should be a way to stop that.
Recoding a medicare charge, if it was accurate in the first place, is illegal.
The point of the rose-colored glasses remark is that you can't see the trees for the forrest. In other words, you are a block head.
Yes, I think there will always be wars. There will never be peace on this earth until Jesus Christ comes back again. We need to continue to support Israel, too. The Bible says so!
'nuff said!...
1. Oil in the ground is oil reserve, as far as I am concerned. If you want to have the companies sell it, fine. I bet you often squander a lot of your resources, too.

2. So nobody ever re-codes a Medicare charge, huh? <.snicker!.> Sure, "Norton." The world is perfect (for the healthcare industry)! I know of companies which sell computer programs which select codes which have a high probability of being accepted by Medicare.

3. What do your mean, I "can't see the trees for the forrest"? YOU can't see the Forrest for the Gump! Were I you, "Norton," I would think twice before calling anyone ELSE a "blockhead."

4. The Bible says lots of things which aren't true. One of them is that the Hebrews are "God's Chosen People." If you buy into that, you are foolish. I will admit that, if I had written the Bible, "God's Chosen People" would have been "German Scotch-Irish Indians." So I do not blame the Hebrews. But I blame you for falling for it.

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[QUOTE who="just sayin' "]<quoted text>
If this insurance prop is so good then why why why is a non government worker forced to
Have it and all government workers are set up with completely different insurance. Good ol democrats will not be happy until all Americans allow the government to pay for all they need. A complete society dependent on all government programs. Lazy society expecting it all given to them for free. What kind of a life does
That sound like. A sad one to me. Very poor country especially if they keep turning a blind eye to all
The illegal aliens coming here to live our free life given to us by the democrats who want all dependent. Very sad to all who want to allow even more of our rights taken away.[/QUOTE]

Isn't it time for you to get back to hearing Rush tell you what you think?

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** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.
** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
ROFL! I see that you just made that up!

You wouldn't by any chance have a reference to those falsehoods, would you?

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** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as theAssociation of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
** Page 272. Section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.(Death counseling..)
** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.
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Just because you read those lies above in an email, or on a Neo-CON website, that does not mean that they are the "truth."

I will bet you that those quoted lies above actually came from Neo-CON comments two years ago and reference page numbers in one of the original drafts of the healthcare bill AS IT WAS BEING DEBATED IN CONGRESS, AND BEFORE A REVISED VERSION WAS PASSED.

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When you get sick in England( can you find that on the map) or France or Taiwan.... they take care of you NO CHARGE!!!!
Why do you want to turn the USA into a gigantic version of Arkansas?
When you get sick in Israel, there is a very nominal co-pay for ANY healthcare service. I forget the amount, but it is like $5 in US dollars.

All of the "anti-Healthcare law" comments on here are sponsored, or planted, by the fat-cat US healthcare industry, which has a vested interest in keeping their outrageous profits. US citizens pay TWICE what the citizens of other countries pay for healthcare, AND GET SUCH A LOW QUALITY OF CARE THAT THE US IS DOWN AT NUMBER 37 OUT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.
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1. Oil in the ground is oil reserve, as far as I am concerned. If you want to have the companies sell it, fine. I bet you often squander a lot of your resources, too.
2. So nobody ever re-codes a Medicare charge, huh? <.snicker!.> Sure, "Norton." The world is perfect (for the healthcare industry)! I know of companies which sell computer programs which select codes which have a high probability of being accepted by Medicare.
3. What do your mean, I "can't see the trees for the forrest"? YOU can't see the Forrest for the Gump! Were I you, "Norton," I would think twice before calling anyone ELSE a "blockhead."
4. The Bible says lots of things which aren't true. One of them is that the Hebrews are "God's Chosen People." If you buy into that, you are foolish. I will admit that, if I had written the Bible, "God's Chosen People" would have been "German Scotch-Irish Indians." So I do not blame the Hebrews. But I blame you for falling for it.
I still think you are a blockhead because you just don't get it! You don't understand how medicare works either. You're an atheist so I don't expect you to understand the Bible.'nuff said!

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I still think you are a blockhead because you just don't get it! You don't understand how medicare works either. You're an atheist so I don't expect you to understand the Bible.'nuff said!...
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When you get sick in Israel, there is a very nominal co-pay for ANY healthcare service. I forget the amount, but it is like $5 in US dollars.
All of the "anti-Healthcare law" comments on here are sponsored, or planted, by the fat-cat US healthcare industry, which has a vested interest in keeping their outrageous profits. US citizens pay TWICE what the citizens of other countries pay for healthcare, AND GET SUCH A LOW QUALITY OF CARE THAT THE US IS DOWN AT NUMBER 37 OUT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.
I agree with you on most of these points . But the Goverment does not need to run it either
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Vote to block healthcare reform then in November vote against Osama a.k.a Obama. Take our country back. BTW did yall know that rfid chip implanting is part of obamacare? one part of this chip can kill you if the government decides you arent playing by their rules. This is why I say anyone but Obama. Stop socialism
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Read the healthcare Law google it. Pretty scary shit How much control do you want the government to have?

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