If you guys missed it...........

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Cleveland took a step in making law abiding citizens criminals. From what I get of this this means all these little communities can do their own thing with gun laws if these type of people keep winning. F@ck home rule.

The only thing Cleveland needs to do to regulate firearms is take all these little illegal high point gun buying thugs off the street, not legit citizens.

I missed out on this story. What is this "home rule" all about?

Basically Cleveland doesn't want to have to live by the Ohio constitution when it comes to gun laws. Currently state law overrides local law and Cleveland doesn't want that in its efforts to have gun control.

Okay, but which gun laws specifically? CCW's? Gun ownership? Castle Doctrine? Because if it is state law, nobody can screw with that.

I think they tried for all of them, but on this instance the appeals court ruled that CCW's are covered under the state law. You know how certain places of business can put up a sign and bar you from carrying? Some cities want to be like that regardless what the state says. They want to be able to ban certain guns and certain gun rights. You see this in other states where certain areas can ban all handguns.

That's one of the problems with the CCW law; you can only carry in your car or while walking down the street. If Cleveland wants to disarm their citizens, it will mean more bodies of innocent people to bury. But what do you expect from the Action Jackson administration? One of the first things he did when he took office was make it easier for the criminal to get away. They should be working on getting guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them--not the people that should.

If they're going to ban guns from the citizens in Cleveland, they should also ban electrical cords because that's what Anthony Sewell used to kill most of those women.

There are many who have this fallacy that getting rid of guns will get rid of crime. Heroin, crack and pot have been illegal as long as I've been alive, it's against the law to run from the police and steal, but that doesn't stop those who want to break these laws from doing so. And you are correct, the two largest attacks on Americans came from a truck loaded with explosives, and an American air plane.

Criminals don't abide to the law. That's why they are criminals. So getting rid of guns will leave the innocent unprotected, and the criminals still armed.

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Funny how the government thinks and the politicians. Like how we're supposed to do all this 'green' stuff like don't idle your car in bank drive throughs and fast food lines, don't cut your grass on humid days and don't burn garbage in your back yard. We're supposed to do all this to save the environment. But then, some film director out on the west coast makes a movie and in it, he blows up 27 cars and a gas tanker truck, sending all that pollution into the air. And look over there at China! They give a sh*t about the environment. Those countries over there are polluting like you wouldn't believe. Which brings me to the gun laws. Like you said, xxx, the criminals will get their grubby, stinkin' hands on guns no matter what any law says. Your average citizen isn't the ones who are going out there and robbing banks and people at gun point, the crap holes with the illegal guns are the ones. So why not change the law to say, if you use a gun in any criminal act, you ger live in prison, no if's, and's or but's! And if you use a gun for a criminal act and shoot someone or kill someone, it's an instant death penalty.

You have too many do-gooders for laws like that. Everybody wants to treat the criminal like a guest at their house, and then can't figure out why we have the highest percentage of our population in prison compared to other countries. And these are the very same who support getting rid of guns. They don't want us to protect ourselves, and they don't want government to offer any kind of deterrent to stop them either. If you ask them WTF we are supposed to do about crime, they tell you nonsense like we need better education, better paying jobs, better social this and better social that. Nothing but a bunch of lip service.

I tell those people if they are so convinced getting rid of guns will solve anything with crime, they should put a big sign on their front porch saying "WE HAVE NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOME'." So far, none of these anti-gun people took me up on the offer. Go figure.

You can ban guns all you want, wont stop people from killing. When you guys log on to news sites what do you see terrorists doing? Blowing themselves and others up. They don't even use guns. They make bombs.

What about knives? Anybody who knows anything knows how deadly a knife is in close quarters combat.

This kind of disarming of citizens has been going on centuries. They tried it in ancient China and people just invented martial arts and learned to kill with fans. LOL

Believe it or not Nazi Germany had great gun control.

Like I always say, the solution to those 'do-gooders' is this...."When one of those do gooders piss moans about the gun laws and says citizens should be banned from owning them to protect themselves, move in a bunch of thugs into that do gooder's neighborhood, preferably in the houses on both sides of him/her and across the street. Then....when the thugs break into the 'gooder's' house and shoots the 'gooders' family dead for $20.00, then see what he/she says about gun control. Same with the ones that want to let child molesters out of jail. Give them a home right next door to that 'gooder' that feels the molester has a right to live where ever he wants. Maybe we should divide the country in half with the gooders on one side and the 'Don't 'F' with us or our possessions' people on the other. And let all the criminals live in the do-gooder's section.

The problem is that do-gooders are vastly separated from those who have to tolerate what they support. I don't know how many times in the other blog I belong to where I have to read them calling me racist, intolerant, closed minded and so forth. These comments come from people living out in Bainbridge, Chagrin Falls, Bretehanal, Westlake and so on. I don't see many people from the city or surrounding Cleveland suburbs attacking me. They promote this Kumbia hold hands and get to know your neighbor bull crap.

If they feel like taking a walk at midnight, they can do so without a second thought. Over here, I sleep with a loaded 357 in the compartment of my headboard. Gun laws would be great for them, because it doesn't effect them. Getting rid of the death penalty is great for them because it has no effect on them. Treating prisoners like hotel guests doesn't bother them one bit, because it doesn't effect them. If they got rid of the CCW laws, they would love it because it doesn't effect them.

In other words, all these do-gooder polices doesn't change their world one bit; it changes ours. But why should they care? They don't have to live with the ramifications of such laws.

It's usually always like that. People that don't know what it's like to live in a high crime area or next door to some idiots that make noise 24 hours a day, have all the answers. Or the ones that tell you 'if you don't like it, then just move', like it's so simple to do that. Maybe if your name is Bill Gates or Donald Trump, you can move at will, but when you're being taxed through your a$$ and have to struggle to pay $2.80 a gallon for gas and $2.69 for a gallon of milk, it ain't that easy to move. And if I COULD move......ha-ha-ha--- I'd move out to an area where all these people live that don't know what it's like to live here! Then I could be 'snug as a bug in a rug like they are! Ha! Ha! Ha!