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Yeah!

Mr. Gilardi is most definitely a 'them', and not an 'us', isn't he, Mr. Ferris?

Don't tolerate dissent, Sieg Obama.

Have a good day.

Au Contraire! I humbly beg to differ. I believe Conservatives have a different world view, and most that I know are students of history. Others just have a gut feeling of the difference between right and wrong, and for decisions that are being made behind closed doors that harm our fellow countrymen. I believe Conservatives live in a more seamless environment that combines past, present and future, which they are ridiculed and misunderstood for.

I think many decisions are made without thought to ramifications, & we do not learn from our past. We are living one dangerous experiment in hopes of reaching Nirvana, without taking a moment to glimpse into the past or our own souls. We as Americans have become so great at fingerpointing.

There is nothing to fear about dissecting ideas. Denigrating people is another issue, and yes idea's have consequences.

Sally G wrote:

Au Contraire! I humbly beg to differ. I believe Conservatives have a different world view, and most that I know are students of history. Others just have a gut feeling of the difference between right and wrong, and for decisions that are being made behind closed doors that harm our fellow countrymen. I believe Conservatives live in a more seamless environment that combines past, present and future, which they are ridiculed and misunderstood for.
I think many decisions are made without thought to ramifications, & we do not learn from our past. We are living one dangerous experiment in hopes of reaching Nirvana, without taking a moment to glimpse into the past or our own souls. We as Americans have become so great at fingerpointing.
There is nothing to fear about dissecting ideas. Denigrating people is another issue, and yes idea's have consequences.

Nice letter but you never really said anything that makes a conservative different than a liberal. If you wrote this letter three years ago you could easily switch the word conservative with the word liberal. Try rereading Mr. Ferris' letter with an open mind, he makes a lot of sense.

"Try rereading Mr. Ferris' letter with an open mind, he makes a lot of sense."

I tried it, Jim. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

Actually is sounds suspiciously familiar. I wonder where I have heard all this before? Ohhh yea now I remember...

Your poit of working together is a nice idea, not really grounded in any reality, Case in point look at the bill rammed through congress, Didn't include tort reform, didn't include and selling of insurance across state lines, didn't include anything the conservatives wanted. Oh and how exactly will this be paid for? Oh yea $400B in medicare cuts. But didn't it also inclue the negations of 256B in medicare cuts that were supposed to go into affect? Why yes it did so really what they are saying is that they cant cut 256 how are they going to cut 400B. In truth they have no reason to make those cuts and the cost will be paid by who? Not much working together from the left gues you just want to right to give up and "work together" huh?

Look no-one is saying Gilardi has any influence on the rest of the world but having seen this same crap about how we have to look out for society lest we tear ourselves appart. Mr Ferris where were you when Bush was being torn appart rather than being "encouraged" to work together? Where were the liberals then? Why was it OK for YOU to sacrifice the greater good then.

The simple fact is that "the savior" is trying to hide health payment reform behind the guise of health care reform. Nothing he is doing is a going to change how health care is given nor the net cost all he is going to do is toss it on the shoulders of others. So again a select few get to pay for the personal choices of others.

You do not fool anyone here you're just a biased and inflexible as everyone else including myself. The difference is I admit it.

Hank Rearden wrote:

Actually is sounds suspiciously familiar. I wonder where I have heard all this before? Ohhh yea now I remember...
Your poit of working together is a nice idea, not really grounded in any reality, Case in point look at the bill rammed through congress, Didn't include tort reform, didn't include and selling of insurance across state lines, didn't include anything the conservatives wanted. Oh and how exactly will this be paid for? Oh yea $400B in medicare cuts. But didn't it also inclue the negations of 256B in medicare cuts that were supposed to go into affect? Why yes it did so really what they are saying is that they cant cut 256 how are they going to cut 400B. In truth they have no reason to make those cuts and the cost will be paid by who? Not much working together from the left gues you just want to right to give up and "work together" huh?
Look no-one is saying Gilardi has any influence on the rest of the world but having seen this same crap about how we have to look out for society lest we tear ourselves appart. Mr Ferris where were you when Bush was being torn appart rather than being "encouraged" to work together? Where were the liberals then? Why was it OK for YOU to sacrifice the greater good then.
The simple fact is that "the savior" is trying to hide health payment reform behind the guise of health care reform. Nothing he is doing is a going to change how health care is given nor the net cost all he is going to do is toss it on the shoulders of others. So again a select few get to pay for the personal choices of others.
You do not fool anyone here you're just a biased and inflexible as everyone else including myself. The difference is I admit it.

So much for open minds and co-operation. I guess that's why the dems are going it alone. The American people want results.

spituee wrote:

"Try rereading Mr. Ferris' letter with an open mind, he makes a lot of sense."
I tried it, Jim. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

The problem is obvious, the solution is unattainable.

Bobby Kennedy hit the nail on the head. Some people see things that are and say "Why?". Some see things that never were and say "Why not?". Conservatives tend to be the former; liberals the later. The rub is when the liberal says "Why not?" and the conservative tells him. There are such things as cynics and pipedreams. Gilardi may be the former; I suspect he is. But a lot of Obamaniacs are nuts too.

Karl Rove wrote:

Bobby Kennedy hit the nail on the head. Some people see things that are and say "Why?". Some see things that never were and say "Why not?". Conservatives tend to be the former; liberals the later. The rub is when the liberal says "Why not?" and the conservative tells him. There are such things as cynics and pipedreams. Gilardi may be the former; I suspect he is. But a lot of Obamaniacs are nuts too.

Both sides should also listen to what John Kennedy said. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
There has been too much I, me, mine.

Truth is, Congress is devoted to serving their party leaders and not their constituents. Presently, we have the "Lap Dog DemoRats" sniffing Obama's butt and supporting a Health care Bill that imprisons American citizens if they don't pay a fine for not having health insurance that's acceptable to the government. Let's remember, that every Republican amendment was voted down in committee and that Republicans were physically locked out of all final negotiations for the Bill. How do you compromise with a bunch of self serving left wing whackos who propose laws that are more suited to Communism?
ANSWER: you don't. nor should we

Jim,

What if the answer to that question is to stop making choices that make our healthcare industry more expensice than every other nation on earth?

What if the answer is to not ask for more and rather to provide for ourselves.

There are those that can not provide for themselves and truely "NEED" the help of society and there are those that are for a time down on their luck for no fault of their own. We owe it to society to HELP we do not owe it to support anyone without expectations.

Our society doesn't expect that we do our best and exhaust all other options before seaking public assistance. Instead we encourage public assistance. This includes corporate america (GM, big banks, etc) are all part of the problem.

I can see there are people who look at this as a partial solution and want to honestly work together to solve a problem but that isn't the way our system ov government works. the two sides come together and but heads and fight over the issues until either a compromise is reached or the bill is completely defeated.

WHat Mr Ferris is asking for isn't unrealistic between two individual people but is impossible based on our current form of governement. It is also unwise to give up a position and compromise when the other side refuses to do the same. There also comes a time when a group is on the very edge of a systematic change in the way a system runs that to compromise is a moral or ethical or even fiscal immposibility. Are we there yet I do not know but I can tell you the current administration is no better or worse than the previous it only wants to pull the rope in a different direction.

Jacko Clownpecker wrote:

Truth is, Congress is devoted to serving their party leaders and not their constituents. Presently, we have the "Lap Dog DemoRats" sniffing Obama's butt and supporting a Health care Bill that imprisons American citizens if they don't pay a fine for not having health insurance that's acceptable to the government. Let's remember, that every Republican amendment was voted down in committee and that Republicans were physically locked out of all final negotiations for the Bill. How do you compromise with a bunch of self serving left wing whackos who propose laws that are more suited to Communism?
ANSWER: you don't. nor should we

Too much I, Me, Mine. It's obvious here.

Hank Rearden wrote:

Jim,
What if the answer to that question is to stop making choices that make our healthcare industry more expensice than every other nation on earth?
What if the answer is to not ask for more and rather to provide for ourselves.
There are those that can not provide for themselves and truely "NEED" the help of society and there are those that are for a time down on their luck for no fault of their own. We owe it to society to HELP we do not owe it to support anyone without expectations.
Our society doesn't expect that we do our best and exhaust all other options before seaking public assistance. Instead we encourage public assistance. This includes corporate america (GM, big banks, etc) are all part of the problem.
I can see there are people who look at this as a partial solution and want to honestly work together to solve a problem but that isn't the way our system ov government works. the two sides come together and but heads and fight over the issues until either a compromise is reached or the bill is completely defeated.
WHat Mr Ferris is asking for isn't unrealistic between two individual people but is impossible based on our current form of governement. It is also unwise to give up a position and compromise when the other side refuses to do the same. There also comes a time when a group is on the very edge of a systematic change in the way a system runs that to compromise is a moral or ethical or even fiscal immposibility. Are we there yet I do not know but I can tell you the current administration is no better or worse than the previous it only wants to pull the rope in a different direction.

"Are we there yet I do not know but I can tell you the current administration is no better or worse than the previous it only wants to pull the rope in a different direction."

Agreed. And that's why the problem is obvious but the solution unattainable.

Perhaps there is some yet to be thought up solution by a yet to appear group that will help us.

Mr. Gilardi was banned from a local talk show for making offensive remarks about Jewish people, so look what we're dealing with to start. Not much.

Jim wrote:

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So much for open minds and co-operation. I guess that's why the dems are going it alone. The American people want results.

hahaha

The 'results' you are interested in are what?
Endless lies and Socialism?
This is not American

The writer of the article can take umbrage to the Gilardi character all he wants, but to paint 'conservatism' with such a large brush is complete BS propaganda.
If anything, the false conservatism that has taken root in the American politic is the problem. People like Hannity, Beck and Limbaugh call themselves 'conservative', but rarely to they actual 'call out' neo-cons that actively engorged themselves on doubling the size of government during the Bush years.
It is a fake conservatism.
The only valid conservative in Congress is Ron Paul. He wants limited government, a foreign policy of freedom (read: bring all the troops home) and fiscal responsibility.
And American Sovreignty
That's the platform.

What's more, the only valid liberal in my view is Dennis Kucinich. The rest are self-serving elitist scum looking after special interest, with only very rare exceptions.

Americans need to regain control of their country. What do you suppose would happen if we banded together and stopped paying our credit card bills for a month or two, and checked off line 7 on our W-4s so our employers would be prohibited from sending in our income taxes etc. We could regain control in a matter of days. Think somebody in Washington might get the message then????

Hussain Obama has one failure after another. Hussain is cashing checks his bank account can't handle. Lucky for us (his numbers are way down) he will only be a one term USELESS president.

Jim wrote:

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Both sides should also listen to what John Kennedy said. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
There has been too much I, me, mine.

Now that, Jim, I can agree with you on.