ACLU says sex offenders' computers protected

the ACLU need to think about the children affected by these prevertsts Grown ups who thrive on young boys and girls have an untreatable illness. How many children have their childhood taken from them by a grown up looking for a thrill of someone else's expense. Rights!! they gave them up when they violated a child. This organization is nothing more then moneyed up shit stirrers and lawyers. Wonder how they would feel if some prevert was "interent stalking their child"? This os what's wrong with our society, we never get involved unless it affects us well this does , what's next??

Snoopy wrote:

the ACLU need to think about the children affected by these prevertsts Grown ups who thrive on young boys and girls have an untreatable illness. How many children have their childhood taken from them by a grown up looking for a thrill of someone else's expense. Rights!! they gave them up when they violated a child. This organization is nothing more then moneyed up shit stirrers and lawyers. Wonder how they would feel if some prevert was "interent stalking their child"? This os what's wrong with our society, we never get involved unless it affects us well this does , what's next??

People like you are what's wrong with society. We have laws set up to punish already and this goes beyond that. Plus, this application would set precedence for law enforcement to track EVERYTHING we do! Ever get a speeding ticket? Well, how about we place a monitoring device on your vehicle to make sure it never happens again. You go 1 mile over and we impound your vehicle.

Snoopy wrote:

the ACLU need to think about the children affected by these prevertsts Grown ups who thrive on young boys and girls have an untreatable illness. How many children have their childhood taken from them by a grown up looking for a thrill of someone else's expense. Rights!! they gave them up when they violated a child. This organization is nothing more then moneyed up shit stirrers and lawyers. Wonder how they would feel if some prevert was "interent stalking their child"? This os what's wrong with our society, we never get involved unless it affects us well this does , what's next??

Judging by your many mistakes in grammar and spelling I'd say you aren't very well educated. And judging by your remarks I'd say you're a bigot as well.
Anyone convicted of a crime who serves their sentence deserves to be left alone. I'm not saying that we should just forget what they did. But we don't set aside special rules for anyone else! What about the guy who kills some little girl's Dad while driving drunk? When he finishes his sentence we don't visit his house ever day and test his breath!
What about the hold-up guy who pistol whips a young pregnant woman? When he gets out do we monitor him? Aside from visits by his parole officer no.
There's always a risk that an offender will re-offend. And the way the system is set up it just about guarantees it in a lot of cases. We can't stick everybody away in prison for the rest of their lives and nor should we. We can't monitor everybody every single day of their lives and nor should we.

Mike of Greenwood wrote:

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Judging by your many mistakes in grammar and spelling I'd say you aren't very well educated. And judging by your remarks I'd say you're a bigot as well.
Anyone convicted of a crime who serves their sentence deserves to be left alone. I'm not saying that we should just forget what they did. But we don't set aside special rules for anyone else! What about the guy who kills some little girl's Dad while driving drunk? When he finishes his sentence we don't visit his house ever day and test his breath!
What about the hold-up guy who pistol whips a young pregnant woman? When he gets out do we monitor him? Aside from visits by his parole officer no.
There's always a risk that an offender will re-offend. And the way the system is set up it just about guarantees it in a lot of cases. We can't stick everybody away in prison for the rest of their lives and nor should we. We can't monitor everybody every single day of their lives and nor should we.

whatever bought you out of your ivory tower to read such trivia that's so beneath you ?

Precisely where in the constitution does it say a person loses all rights when accused of child molestation? And keep in mind, it is only when these people are first accused that their property is being rifled through, not after they are convicted. Legally, they are as innocent as me or you--well, me, since I have no idea what you might have done.

Just because the police want to do something is no reason to allow it. The peoples' rights stand before the desires of the constabulary.

Snoopy wrote:

the ACLU need to think about the children affected by these prevertsts Grown ups who thrive on young boys and girls have an untreatable illness. How many children have their childhood taken from them by a grown up looking for a thrill of someone else's expense. Rights!! they gave them up when they violated a child. This organization is nothing more then moneyed up shit stirrers and lawyers. Wonder how they would feel if some prevert was "interent stalking their child"? This os what's wrong with our society, we never get involved unless it affects us well this does , what's next??

Probably the grumbling and muttering of the lynch mob below--FAR below.

Snoopy wrote:

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whatever bought you out of your ivory tower to read such trivia that's so beneath you ?

Snoopy wrote:

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whatever bought you out of your ivory tower to read such trivia that's so beneath you ?

Again, more utterance from the corner bar.

Cpetr13 wrote:

Probably the grumbling and muttering of the lynch mob below--FAR below.
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SNAPPY COMEBACK

I myself think all child molestors should be sentenced to death on a first offense. Anyone sick enough to want to have sex with an innocent child does not deserve to live. We can put dope dealers and thieves behind bars for twenty years yet child molestors get a slap on the wrist and are released to ruin yet another childs life. Sounds to me like we have some sick pedophiles on here that are pissed about this new law. Convicted drug felons can not get food stamps or housing, so why should perverts be allowed on child websites? I say once convicted of molestation we find a short rope and a tall oak tree and not give the worthless piece of shit a second chance at ruining another innocent childs life. Convicted felons can not be in posession of a fire arm, so convicted child molestors should not be allowed on sites where children are. I hope more law makers step up and start getting some tougher sentences for first time molestors. Maybe that would save many children from suffering.

O'm a wee bit more upset about the lives of children in iraq whose parents we've killed or held without charge than this, primarily because there is nothing in the literature that says every child 's life is ruined. Some kids have problems, just like any rape victims do, and usually it is because they don't get counseling.

I am not at all suggesting that it is not a serious crime, but to focus on this crime as being worse than any other is creating a false hieracrchy of danger to society. Not the mention that you seem to be wiling to toss away a person's constitutional rights because you have issues.

In some cases, convicted felons can get public assistance, and sin others they can't. But that has nothing to do with this issue. As for keeping people off the internet, that is going to be difficult if not impossible. And there aren't many sites that are exclusively for children. It is up to the parents to decide which sites their children and visit and which they are not, that's part of their responsibilities.

MJM wrote:

I myself think all child molestors should be sentenced to death on a first offense. Anyone sick enough to want to have sex with an innocent child does not deserve to live. We can put dope dealers and thieves behind bars for twenty years yet child molestors get a slap on the wrist and are released to ruin yet another childs life. Sounds to me like we have some sick pedophiles on here that are pissed about this new law. Convicted drug felons can not get food stamps or housing, so why should perverts be allowed on child websites? I say once convicted of molestation we find a short rope and a tall oak tree and not give the worthless piece of shit a second chance at ruining another innocent childs life. Convicted felons can not be in posession of a fire arm, so convicted child molestors should not be allowed on sites where children are. I hope more law makers step up and start getting some tougher sentences for first time molestors. Maybe that would save many children from suffering.

MJM you might as well talk to the wall when speaking to a person who doesn't have children and from the jest of the post that fits these people who change the discussion of the issue at any given chance because all they have is.. self. I think you're on to something with the rope and tall tree

Anyone with a child knows a pervert is one of biggest fears a parent carries in concern of the welfare of their child.
This law could be preventitive medicune and if you don't have anything to hide you wont care who checks what you're saying on your computer but "they" wont go that far with everyone , there isn't the time nor the sources
I'm shocked at the lack of concern for children!

1) Mot molesters of children ARE their parents or a relative. it's far less likely for a stranger will molest a kid than someone it knows well.

2) Parenthood gives you no more rights than anyone else.

3) Presumption of a crime is unconstitutional; your "preventative medicine" would violate the rights of american citizens.

4) One need not have anything t hide to maintain personal privacy. Your argument is ridiculous.

5) YOU had the kid, it is YOUR responsibility to protect them. No one else HAS to be concerned about your kids.

EMT Terre Haute wrote:

MJM you might as well talk to the wall when speaking to a person who doesn't have children and from the jest of the post that fits these people who change the discussion of the issue at any given chance because all they have is.. self. I think you're on to something with the rope and tall tree
Anyone with a child knows a pervert is one of biggest fears a parent carries in concern of the welfare of their child.
This law could be preventitive medicune and if you don't have anything to hide you wont care who checks what you're saying on your computer but "they" wont go that far with everyone , there isn't the time nor the sources
I'm shocked at the lack of concern for children!

EMT Terre Haute wrote:

MJM you might as well talk to the wall when speaking to a person who doesn't have children and from the jest of the post that fits these people who change the discussion of the issue at any given chance because all they have is.. self. I think you're on to something with the rope and tall tree
Anyone with a child knows a pervert is one of biggest fears a parent carries in concern of the welfare of their child.
This law could be preventitive medicune and if you don't have anything to hide you wont care who checks what you're saying on your computer but "they" wont go that far with everyone , there isn't the time nor the sources
I'm shocked at the lack of concern for children!

I have two kids and disagree with him.

MJM wrote:

I myself think all child molestors should be sentenced to death on a first offense. Anyone sick enough to want to have sex with an innocent child does not deserve to live. We can put dope dealers and thieves behind bars for twenty years yet child molestors get a slap on the wrist and are released to ruin yet another childs life. Sounds to me like we have some sick pedophiles on here that are pissed about this new law. Convicted drug felons can not get food stamps or housing, so why should perverts be allowed on child websites? I say once convicted of molestation we find a short rope and a tall oak tree and not give the worthless piece of shit a second chance at ruining another innocent childs life. Convicted felons can not be in posession of a fire arm, so convicted child molestors should not be allowed on sites where children are. I hope more law makers step up and start getting some tougher sentences for first time molestors. Maybe that would save many children from suffering.

Wow, do you get this upset when a child gets beaten or murdered or is it just a child being touched in a sexually inappropriate way? Oh wait beating a child is not as immoral or bad is it? As a child I could come forward and say, My dad was rubbing the inside of my thigh last night while he was drunk and I didn't like it and my dad would more than likely face prison time; when he got out he would be placed on a registry causing me and my whole family ridicule and if we decided to stay together as a family we would have to sell our home under certain conditions; he couldn't take me to the park or trick or treating at Halloween; I would be a victim because I told someone about it. On the other hand if I said, My dad busted my lip, threw me up against the wall last night and threatened me because I tried to stop him from hitting mom when he was drunk last night, he might go to jail for a short time; I might even be taken out of the home for a short time; my dad may be made to do substance abuse and anger management and then we would go on with our lives. Big difference in how we see crimes against children in our great nation? As as an adult victim of both, I can say this SUCKS. Get over yourself and your moral outrage and get real about the laws; sex offender laws are not about protecting children.

EMT Terre Haute wrote:

MJM you might as well talk to the wall when speaking to a person who doesn't have children and from the jest of the post that fits these people who change the discussion of the issue at any given chance because all they have is.. self. I think you're on to something with the rope and tall tree
Anyone with a child knows a pervert is one of biggest fears a parent carries in concern of the welfare of their child.
This law could be preventitive medicune and if you don't have anything to hide you wont care who checks what you're saying on your computer but "they" wont go that far with everyone , there isn't the time nor the sources
I'm shocked at the lack of concern for children!

I'm shocked at how you folks can out so morally outraged and then suggest murder by hanging!!! What is wrong with you people. I am the mother of 3 children; 2 who are adults and one is handicapped and unable to talk and I when your child can not say Mom, so and so did this, believe me you are in a whole new ballgame. It is my responsibility to protect my children from all kinds of abuse. These laws have nothing to do with protecting children. Are you folks as morally outraged when a child of 13 or 14 years of age who commits a crime is thrown into an adult court and treated as an adult? Are you as outraged about the drunk driver that caused a wrecked and killed a whole family? Would you be just as willing to go back to everyone convicted of drunk driving and say okay the law has now changed and because you did this twenty years ago we are taking away some of your rights; you can no longer drink or go near a bar or live close to a bar or a liquor store for the rest of your life? Are you willing to do that? Why is it that you are only hung up on sex crimes? There are all kinds of ways children are hurt and they shouldn't be. Do we need laws against this, yes but we as a society are being ridiculous and it is time to stop.

No, we just wait until AFTER there is a violation of a kids rights to safety. THEN we check their computers. Then we gasp that there's kiddie porn on it.
As if we DIDN'T know it was going to be there. And then we 'shudder to think' that it happened. And put the perp away. For a little bit. And then he either makes it, or Bubba snuffs his azz out.

Nice.

EMT Terre Haute wrote:

MJM you might as well talk to the wall when speaking to a person who doesn't have children and from the jest of the post that fits these people who change the discussion of the issue at any given chance because all they have is.. self. I think you're on to something with the rope and tall tree
Anyone with a child knows a pervert is one of biggest fears a parent carries in concern of the welfare of their child.
This law could be preventitive medicune and if you don't have anything to hide you wont care who checks what you're saying on your computer but "they" wont go that far with everyone , there isn't the time nor the sources
I'm shocked at the lack of concern for children!

I have nothing to hide. But I still would not want people snooping around my computer and keeping track of what I do. It's a violation of my rights. Just like it's a violation of a persons rights for someone to look in their window and watch them get undressed! So, you'd be perfectly okay with a couple of cops or agents knocking on your door and telling you they're going to look at your computer? Bull! Next thing you're going to say is that it's okay to watch somebody get undressed to make sure nothing funny is going on!

Purl wrote:

<quoted text>I'm shocked at how you folks can out so morally outraged and then suggest murder by hanging!!! What is wrong with you people. I am the mother of 3 children; 2 who are adults and one is handicapped and unable to talk and I when your child can not say Mom, so and so did this, believe me you are in a whole new ballgame. It is my responsibility to protect my children from all kinds of abuse. These laws have nothing to do with protecting children. Are you folks as morally outraged when a child of 13 or 14 years of age who commits a crime is thrown into an adult court and treated as an adult? Are you as outraged about the drunk driver that caused a wrecked and killed a whole family? Would you be just as willing to go back to everyone convicted of drunk driving and say okay the law has now changed and because you did this twenty years ago we are taking away some of your rights; you can no longer drink or go near a bar or live close to a bar or a liquor store for the rest of your life? Are you willing to do that? Why is it that you are only hung up on sex crimes? There are all kinds of ways children are hurt and they shouldn't be. Do we need laws against this, yes but we as a society are being ridiculous and it is time to stop.

I agree with what you say. Yes, we need the laws. Anyone that harms a child needs to be punished. But what this is all about is taking away a persons rights. This not Communist China or Nazi Germany! It scares me to death that people are so willing to give up their rights so easily. It's happening little by little every day. If it keeps going you won't be able to go to the bathroom without someone watching you! Oh, wait, that's already happened. I worked for a place that monitored the employee restrooms!

The ACLU loves terrorists, pedophiles and communists, but hate America.