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concerned citizen
Marion, IN
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Ryan wrote: <quoted text> You apparently know nothing about beer. A flavored malt beverage would be something like Mike's Hard Lemonade or Twisted Tea. Beer is not "flavored" in that sense. Of course there are also craft beers made with hints of fruit juice but they aren't considered "flavored" malt beverages. Most of your examples get their flavors from different varieties of malt and hops in the same way wines get their flavor from a variety of grapes. They are no different from the swill produced by Budweiser or Miller that you probably drink - made of malted grain, yeast, hops, water. The difference is in QUALITY OF INGREDIENTS. Bud and other off the shelf garbage use cheap ingredients that make an inferior quality of beer with very weak and bland flavor. Many microbrews spend more $$ on select hops and finely malted barley or wheat to achieve beers that have complex, interesting and pleasing flavors. Nobody in their right mind would say that Great Lakes Holy Moses, Dortmunder or a fine India Pale Ale is "flavored" beer. actually, there is no good reason to believe that the lite beer makers use lower quality ingredients thus making the beer weak and bland. Neither is it high quality that makes other beers more flavorful and stronger. they choose ingredients to deliver the targeted taste. Budweiser uses some rice because rice sugars ferment to alcohol and are totally consumed by the yeast thus leaving no taste behind. in the flavorful beers, the barley malts produce some sugars that yeast cannot digest and thus impart flavors to the brew. with hops, the lite makers simply choose to use much less but there is no evidence that they use cheaper inferior grades.
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oh boy
Akron, OH
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Response to Oh Boy wrote: Oh my, they wouldn't let me spell: A-l-c-o-h-l-i-c. There. Now it's spelled-out for you. Only a recovering alcoholic would protest as much as you. I can have a couple of beers without going on a bender. It's a shame you can't. Don't be a spoilsport.
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Ryan
Akron, OH
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concerned citizen wrote: <quoted text> actually, there is no good reason to believe that the lite beer makers use lower quality ingredients thus making the beer weak and bland. Neither is it high quality that makes other beers more flavorful and stronger. they choose ingredients to deliver the targeted taste. Budweiser uses some rice because rice sugars ferment to alcohol and are totally consumed by the yeast thus leaving no taste behind. in the flavorful beers, the barley malts produce some sugars that yeast cannot digest and thus impart flavors to the brew. with hops, the lite makers simply choose to use much less but there is no evidence that they use cheaper inferior grades. I didn't mention light beer in my post. I was talking about the conventional bland american lager swill that Budweiser, Coors, Miller and a host of others sell. You hit the nail on the head when you mention the rice fillers and smaller amounts of hops that Budweiser uses. Hops are expensive so if you use less, it costs less to make the beer. And you're right about rice - it creates a bland, tasteless beer. Fewer hops and more rice (inferior ingredients)= lower quality beer.
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Sally
Cleveland, OH
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What about drunk driving? I think the last thing the city of Akron needs is another bar. Where of the people who support MADD? When a city fails to promote postive jobs, the negative jobs will creep in.
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Red
Chicago, IL
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Ryan wrote: <quoted text> I didn't mention light beer in my post. I was talking about the conventional bland american lager swill that Budweiser, Coors, Miller and a host of others sell. You hit the nail on the head when you mention the rice fillers and smaller amounts of hops that Budweiser uses. Hops are expensive so if you use less, it costs less to make the beer. And you're right about rice - it creates a bland, tasteless beer. Fewer hops and more rice (inferior ingredients)= lower quality beer. Ugh. Beer snobs: get a life! It's just beer!
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Quest for Power
Dublin, OH
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Too bad Najeway's quest for power drove a wedge right through the craft beer industry in Ohio. He could have had every brewer in the state and we could have created an organization which would have promoted craft beer and had some political clout. But no, Najeway wanted his way or the highway. Did anyone ever wonder why only Najeway's cronies are in leadership positions? There is a reason why only northwest Ohio is represented on the board. The rest of the state can't stand John Najeway. This organization is doomed to fail just like all of the other NW Ohio brewers guilds. Until the entire state is represented this organization will be a political midget. I can't believe the Conway's were dumb enough to fall for this crap.
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craft beer supporter
Girard, OH
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Sounds like you did not get your way in a democratic process, and if you looked further you would have seen the entire board was made up of breweries from around the state including Columbus, Cinci, etc. Too bad you did not get your way and try to bad mouth those that try to make a dif are you not a member of this organization Quest for Power wrote: Too bad Najeway's quest for power drove a wedge right through the craft beer industry in Ohio. He could have had every brewer in the state and we could have created an organization which would have promoted craft beer and had some political clout. But no, Najeway wanted his way or the highway. Did anyone ever wonder why only Najeway's cronies are in leadership positions? There is a reason why only northwest Ohio is represented on the board. The rest of the state can't stand John Najeway. This organization is doomed to fail just like all of the other NW Ohio brewers guilds. Until the entire state is represented this organization will be a political midget. I can't believe the Conway's were dumb enough to fall for this crap.
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