Only on 12: Warwick home raided for alleged pet adoption ring

Full story: WPRI Providence and Rhode Island

If you've recently bought a dog through a web site from a Warwick home, you'll want to take your dog to the vet and get it checked out.

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Any updates on what is going on here? The group still claims that this is untrue?
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This is completely untrue. Slander! I am a friend of the people on Namquid. I know that what the news is saying is WRONG. I have been there for transports in the past and NOTHING has been wrong w. the dogs, except maybe diarrhea from the stress of being transported for 14-20 hours. That is NORMAL. I personally know that these dogs have shots and health records. This is completely untrue and is SLANDER by the CH 12 news.
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I think people mean well in the adoption of the animals but unfortunately things can go bad. I know I recently adopted a dog from out of state and I had some issues with my adoption. I think the state needs maybe pass some laws on this. Personally there should be some type of shelter or vet that these animals are being brought to instead of picking them up at odd locations such as myself. This way if there is something wrong with the animal it can get the proper treatment. If you go on Petfinder.com that have many rescue groups and they all list places in RI but none of them actually seem to work with that location in RI. Mine was Mutts4rescue and it says it was out of Portsmouth, RI well I picked my puppy up in Connecticut and never spoke with anyone in Portsmouth. I love my puppy but I'm not sure he got the treatment he should have prior to coming to my home. We have had him just a couple of weeks now and he is doing much better. I wish nothing but the best for these animals. Maybe channel 12 should do a story on the entire system on adopting animals. Believe me I looked locally for a puppy first but was unable to find a mixed breed puppy for a reasonalble amount.
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I don't think these reports are true- if so why did they release the dogs with the transporter- that is they said they were being inhumanly transported! I do not believe this! Where are these dogs now?
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This happens all the time and the dogs pay the price of death and neglect. Importing Southern dogs is big business.

People who have adopted from such groups and had horrible experiences or seen cruel tranports have a moral obliglation to report it to the State's Atty General and Dept of Agriculture.

Only if people do something will this stop.
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I don't think these reports are true- if so why did they release the dogs with the transporter- that is they said they were being inhumanly transported! I do not believe this! Where are these dogs now?
What do you mean they released these dogs with the transporter??? Yes someone in North Carolina did release these dogs to the transporter. Well I know when I received my puppy it was also in a van and it was in a crate with another puppy and I picked it up at some location. My puppy was skinny, lethargic and very very scared, my puppy didn't have fleas but it was covered in flea eggs because I found out just before transporting the animal they put flea control stuff on the animal and they sent him in a truck for two days. I don't blame the transporter or the people trying to help these animals but the different states that transport the animals up to the New England area should have taken better care of these animals. My puppy also had coccidia and was even missing some fur on it's ear and other spots. I needed to get vet care within a couple of days and I am working with my puppy to make him a happy healthy puppy. There need to be stricter laws on this, the animals again should be brought into a state to a licensed shelter or vet so before adopting these animals out they are known to be healthy happy animals. I don't regret getting my puppy but the rescue group should have given him a better start before I received him. People should help these animals but properly. Animals have feelings and should be treated just as you would treat a human because when they are loved they will do nothing but love you back in return.
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Dogs go to Warwick all the time - just get on the Petfinder Boards and some of the message groups on Yahoo. It is very enlightening to se what is going on behind the backs of authorites. These people who have been doing this are not the only ones.

MA passed laws about imports and a lot of so called rescues shut down because they could not meet the quarantine and other requirements.

Time for the rest of NE to follow MA and regulate the trade of dogs.

Once group in the Midwest is selling in bulk hundreds of big (unneutered) dogs for $150 each. Dogs are coming from kill shelters. No one seems to know where they are going.- Perhaps to China for the dog meat industry? Wouldn't doubt it.
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Cheryl what I ment was they were saying that these dogs were transported under bad conditions- then they siezed some of the dogs then RI sent the remainder of the dogs back with the transporter to NC- by no means do I think that they would have if they really were in cages that were too small, or in too hot of temperatures.
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I simply cannot believe what I am reading!!! I have worked with this transport and shelter personally and the care the animals received was nothing short of amazing. In fact, I got 3 dogs from them the week before all of this went down, and I can assure you, Craig was *WONDERFUL* and took very good care of the animals. The shelter contact was incredible and did everything she could to help me, even calling me the next day to make sure the dogs were doing well. To know that countless animals will die because of this media scandal makes me sick to my stomach.
Having been in North Carolina myself, I have seen the animals that are dumped there, in far greater numbers than we could even cope with up here, and the conditions that they are in when they are found by animal control. And while some of them were sickly, as they can be here,*ALL* of the available shelter animals I saw were healthy and much more social than Northeast strays, which is something I attribute to the unspoken 72 hour "rule" North Carolina has.
For those not familiar with how NC shelters (almost all of which are high kill) operate, an animal only has to be given 72 hours (3 days) to live, which assumes the pet is a stray and not an owner surrender. This gives the owner a chance to come claim their pet. During this time period the animal is in quarantine, and if no one comes to claim it after 3 days then it either gets another 72 more hours (during which time he or she can be adopted) or is put down. And it's sad to say, but the strays are the lucky ones: If you were to surrender your pet to the shelter, they are able to euthanize your abandoned family member as soon as you leave (because no one will be coming for it) and there might be other animals there with a better chance of finding a new home.
I have two puppies here with me that my fiance and I rescued, along with their mother and sister, from a kill shelter while we were visiting family in North Carolina. They were hours away from death and we got there just in time to save them. Today I look in their eyes and am angered because they could have been taken from me, despite my having health certificates, a crate more than big enough for them all, climate control in my car, etc.(Who sets the standards for rescuing animals anyway?) Being punished for saving innocent lives in like being charged with being a good Samaritan. And what's worse is the general public doesn't realize that because of this "raid" there are countless other animals, like mine, puppies with no behavioral or health problems who are unwanted and looking for love, dieing because of ignorance.
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News Channel 12 is so full of crap. This entire report is a crock. None of the dogs were taken from the house, not s SINGLE DOG was even IN the house. The news people got there after the dogs were already unloaded from the TRANSPORT VAN, and on the street. The SPCA put a few of the dogs into the woman's yard, to let them walk around and relax while things were being straightened out, but there were no dogs in her house! They totally and completely LIED about that, because they weren't there and they didn't know. Now this poor woman has to have police sit outside her house at night because she's getting death threats, having people throw things at her house, bang on her windows screaming that she's a hoarder and an abuser, and all she did was let them use the yard, she had nothing to do with it. DEM didn't even take down her name! She wasn't in trouble for anything, and the news made the ENTIRE THING about HER and HER HOUSE. They lied about the cruelty, there were never any cruelty charges even being investigated. It was about the health certificates, that was all. Also, the news said it was a CRIMINAL charge of operating a pet store without a license... the actual citation (I've seen it) that they wrote said that it was operating a rescue without a license, and it's a misdemeanor. There is no such thing as a criminal charge of running a rescue without a license. Nice try, though, news channel 12.

News channel 12, I hope you're proud of yourself. She lost her job, because now her face is associated with animal cruelty, and she works in the animal field. She has people harassing her, calling her, sending her death threats. There are holes in her house where the rocks are taking chunks of siding out. She's had to have police at her house two nights in a row, protecting her. She's been staying in her house for two days, because every time she goes out she gets yelled at and harassed because people recognize her face. And worst of all, this had nothing to do with her, she was just the person who lent them her yard.

If you're going to push your way into something that you never should have been at in the first place, at least report the facts. You have posted blatant lies on your website, and lawyers have been contacted. You've ruined this woman's life, and she wasn't even the one who got the citation, or got into any trouble. Way to go.

Anyone else who has questions, the REAL story is posted on their website.
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Cheryl what I ment was they were saying that these dogs were transported under bad conditions- then they siezed some of the dogs then RI sent the remainder of the dogs back with the transporter to NC- by no means do I think that they would have if they really were in cages that were too small, or in too hot of temperatures.
This is what I read and heard on the matter "Many of the dogs were brought to local shelters; two of them had to be brought to an emergency vet." Sorry I misunderstood you but nowhere did I hear or read that any were transported back to North Carolina with the same transport vehicle. And no I hope they weren't allowed to be. I do agree with one of the other posts that RI should have stricter laws on where the animals are brought to in RI, I have to say that was my biggest complaint. That the rescue group I used says they are out of RI but never did I talk to anyone or see anyone from RI be involved. There is nothing wrong with adopting from out of state but I think we need to have better laws so the adopter who pays for this animal knows what kind of care the animal needs. My puppy seems like he almost needed to be taught how to be a puppy he is still not a ball of energy and still scared of many things but we are working on this but I am lucky that I am home with him right now what about someone else who didn't have the time to give to the animal what kind of animal would they become. I just should have been told of his behavior and his problems prior to adopting him because we don't need more animals in shelters after a few months of not being able to handle them.
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I simply cannot believe what I am reading!!! I have worked with this transport and shelter personally and the care the animals received was nothing short of amazing. In fact, I got 3 dogs from them the week before all of this went down, and I can assure you, Craig was *WONDERFUL* and took very good care of the animals..
I don't think Channel 12 is discourging people from adopting nor am I but I do think that there are issues here that not enough people know about. When you are adopting an animal from out of stat such as I did I assumed they got the best treatment possible and I was then giving them a long term home. These shelters and rescue groups need to be more honest with the adopters for several reasons. One being what if they have other pets in the home, two what if they don't have the attention to give this animal who is sick or unsocial or three what if they don't have the extra money for the vet bills that are sure to come because they just spent $350.00 or more on the adoption fee??? These animals should not be sick and transported in this way. They should be brought to a licensed shelter where a doctor can look at them before they are given up for adoption. Instead most these places use fake city's or towns in the state and have nothing to do with that city and town and you pick up your puppy at a McDonalds or another location. I don't regret adopting my puppy I'm glad he has a good life now and a great future ahead but he does need more work and needs more vet care then what he should have. RI needs to change the laws on outerstate adoption, just bring these animals to a licensed shelter, clinic or vet before adopting them out. The last thing we need is more sick animals in peoples homes or in the shelters in a few months after the adopters have had enough.
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All the dogs that the police didn't keep were sent back to NC with the transporter.
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This is what I read and heard on the matter "Many of the dogs were brought to local shelters; two of them had to be brought to an emergency vet." Sorry I misunderstood you but nowhere did I hear or read that any were transported back to North Carolina with the same transport vehicle. And no I hope they weren't allowed to be. I do agree with one of the other posts that RI should have stricter laws on where the animals are brought to in RI, I have to say that was my biggest complaint. That the rescue group I used says they are out of RI but never did I talk to anyone or see anyone from RI be involved. There is nothing wrong with adopting from out of state but I think we need to have better laws so the adopter who pays for this animal knows what kind of care the animal needs. My puppy seems like he almost needed to be taught how to be a puppy he is still not a ball of energy and still scared of many things but we are working on this but I am lucky that I am home with him right now what about someone else who didn't have the time to give to the animal what kind of animal would they become. I just should have been told of his behavior and his problems prior to adopting him because we don't need more animals in shelters after a few months of not being able to handle them.
They very much were transported back by the same guy and the very same vehicle! News 12 has lied about the situation- there is no way that teh SPCA would allow them to leave with the same person if he wasn;t caring for them properly! I do agree that these dogs should be taken care of- one of them should have been mine. I however am well aware that taking a rescue dog means there may be things I have to help with- my dog would have seen a vet and been cared for! There are families who wanted to love and care for these dogs!
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There were dogs sent back to NC with the same transport and they were *fine!* I've seen the van in question and the conditions the dogs were kept in, and I wish my car was that comfortable!**People shouldn't discuss things they know nothing about.**

And as for puppies not knowing how to be puppies, not having energy, etc, I have one like that here. She was fine when I got her (2-3 months old) and now that she's older (3-4 months old) she is afraid of men, including my fiance who was with me when we rescued her. Nothing happened to her, but her mother was terrified of men when she was saved so we believe she learned from her. A LOT of the animals in NC had been abused and are very fearful, especially when put into a new situation. A 6-12 month old pit mix I found on the side of the I-85 in NC on my way home was terrified of doorways, and just now, over a month later, is getting over his fear. So while I agree that shelters should tell people of pre-existing behaviors, there is no realistic way to test a dog for everything that they could possibly be afraid of.

My heart goes out to the woman who has lost her way of life due to the media spin on this whole mess. It's a sad day when you realize that you live in a world where no good deed goes unpunished.
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People are trying to save these dogs from North Carolina shelters, becuase they still use GAS CHAMBERS to euthanise animals in that shelter.

Please do what you can to OUTLAW the barbaric practice of GASSING SHELTER ANIMALS.
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Cheryl
"...These shelters and rescue groups need to be more honest with the adopters for several reasons. One being what if they have other pets in the home, two what if they don't have the attention to give this animal who is sick or unsocial or three what if they don't have the extra money for the vet bills that are sure to come because they just spent $350.00 or more on the adoption fee??? These animals should not be sick and transported in this way..."

The shelter I dealt with, which is the same one these dogs came from, was in contact with me from the shelter, their vet's office, as well as after I had picked up the dogs. She asked me about other animals I had, if I had a place to keep the new animals quarantined, and told me everything she knew about them and their behavior. She was even worried that I wouldn't want one of the dogs because she was older than they had originally thought.

As far as vet costs, anytime you get a pet, rescued or otherwise, you are accepting the responsibility involved, which could only be shots and routine check ups, or emergency surgery for an unknown condition. Price wise, it cost me $420 to get my 3 dogs out of the shelter, get their health certificates and shots at the NC vet, and a ride to RI where I could meet the transport.

Yup,$420 for THREE (3) dogs, not one, so I'm guessing you didn't go through this shelter.

**People shouldn't discuss things they know nothing about.**
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Does anyone know where the dogs that they took went and how I go about contacting the place. One of the "lethargic" dogs was one I adopted and would still like to get it- if possible!
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When are we going to start holding the media accountable for their actions and what they write in the paper and put on TV?

It's costing people their lives. My parents own a newspaper and if they dared write news that wasn't true.....it's just wrong!!!!

Transports are constantly being monitored for health certificates, etc. Police and the SPCA are now going after small rescues making accusations to both shut them down, and to get money. I know this for a fact because I've been involved in animal rights and rescue for close to 10 years.

Now that animals have been transported to NE, shelters like the SPCA find it harder to adopt out. Our S&N program in NE is so incredible that it's so difficult to adopt puppies and kittens. Because the south has such a high kill rate, we try to rescue them and place them up here.

What people should be focusing on is educating and rehabbing the public in the south on all of this. Instead, we're running around with our heads cut off up here trying to clean up their mess.
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Many counties in NC are using the barbaric method of killing dogs by gassing them. I urge you to watch the attached video and then say the dogs should not have come to RI. If these caring compassionate people really cared they would be helping these puppies instead of running down the rescuers. This video aired on NY TV two nights ago. http://www.companionanimalnetworktv.org/Video... Please cut and paste and you will know what rescuers are up against and now a lying press

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