Blaming Israel for carnage

LIer wrote:

<quoted text>Hmmmmm...I wonder to whom you could be referring (sarcasm)? LOL

Lier, as the Arab nations don' like the borders of Israel and want things to go back to the original boundries. I will agree to that too if we can use the map that shows what Israel's boundries were in 1000 to 925 BC. I will be very
much in favor of that. The KJV of the bible that I use has a map of the area. Israel would come up owning a large part of Lebanon, A large part of Syria, About half of Jordan, and part of Saudi.
I wonder how serious they are about wantint original borders?

Ghost Rider wrote:

<quoted text>Lier, as the Arab nations don' like the borders of Israel and want things to go back to the original boundries. I will agree to that too if we can use the map that shows what Israel's boundries were in 1000 to 925 BC. I will be very
much in favor of that. The KJV of the bible that I use has a map of the area. Israel would come up owning a large part of Lebanon, A large part of Syria, About half of Jordan, and part of Saudi.
I wonder how serious they are about wantint original borders?

why dont we go back to the 1700 bc borders?

greg_allen wrote:

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1. the UN is not antisemitist, they are objective.every single proponent of zionism tries to call them this. the UN criticises evenly. israel deserves a huge amount of criticism.
2. exactly how far back do you go in history to decide who rightfully owns the land?
or does only the small time frame in which the jews owned it count?

Greg, if you look at a map that shows what Israel's borders were in 1000-925 BC, what they have now is not even a quarter of that area. All you people siding with the Muslims begrudge them even the little bit they have now. All of you keep going on about this area belonging to Palestine. If you look at that map, the land of Israel does not belong to Palestine or to any of the Arabs. Infact, by rights the Muslims should have to move. Israel is not squaking about that. All they ask is to be let alone on the little bit they have.

Ghost Rider wrote:

<quoted text>Greg, if you look at a map that shows what Israel's borders were in 1000-925 BC, what they have now is not even a quarter of that area. All you people siding with the Muslims begrudge them even the little bit they have now. All of you keep going on about this area belonging to Palestine. If you look at that map, the land of Israel does not belong to Palestine or to any of the Arabs. Infact, by rights the Muslims should have to move. Israel is not squaking about that. All they ask is to be let alone on the little bit they have.

you can look at 50 different maps from 50 different time periods.
why is this the singular time period that matters?

greg_allen wrote:

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why dont we go back to the 1700 bc borders?

Greg, Before the Jewish people went into the area, there was neither Jews or Arabs in the area. So it wouldn't do you any good to go back.
Neither, was in the area at that time.

Ghost Rider wrote:

<quoted text>Greg, Before the Jewish people went into the area, there was neither Jews or Arabs in the area. So it wouldn't do you any good to go back.
Neither, was in the area at that time.

According to the Old Testament the Nation of Israel started with Abraham, fathering Isaac, who fathered Jacob and Esau. Esau traded his birthright for a bowl of soup. Jacob and Esau split and each went his own way. Isaac and Jacob the nation of Israel and Esau the Arab Nations. This is the bitter rivalry between the Jews and the Arabs today. If you want to put it into American English terms, it is a family feud that has gone on for several thousand years. I doubt that either would ever admit this tie.

If you want to take it back further as the arabs say, Abraham slept with his servant and got her pregnant. His wife, Sarah, gave birth to Isaac. The servants son and Isaac were half brothers. It is still a family feud that has gone on for several thousand years.

Bob wrote:

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Yep, continue to take their land, oppress them, murder them, and if they fight back, as you say, nuke them.
However, instead of offering a bandaid solution as you suggested, many say fix the main problem. Which is Israeli occupation on disputed land. Tell Israel to build new Jewish settlements WITHIN Israeli LEGAL borders instead of the disputed land OUTSIDE Israeli borders were a Palistinian state is to be created. Tell Israel to obey the ignored U.N reselutions against them, over 40 of them.
But, if I was Jewish like you, I probably might of also said nuke them. However I am not Jewish or Muslim, probably why many including myself sees the root of the problem instead of siding with "my kind"
Peace

The land was given to Israel in the Bible, so the Palestinians are the ones who must get out. Israel has overwhelming power, so the Palestinians will be out one way or the other. They have no choice, and no chance.

Shalom wrote:

<quoted text> The land was given to Israel in the Bible, so the Palestinians are the ones who must get out. Israel has overwhelming power, so the Palestinians will be out one way or the other. They have no choice, and no chance.

Israel overwhelming power comes from the support of States.

Did G_d write the bible or man? Thru out history man has used religion to deceit other men to meet his agenda. It still happens to this day.

Before any Jews were on that soil, Egypt used its harbor for trades, hence people other than Jews had migrated unto these lands.

A true creator does not play favorites, does not play a real estate agent, loves all his children unconditionally, is not selfish, does not discriminate, does not chase and murder families out of their homes. Is not a racist. If you believe G_d accepts these and more, at the end, it is he that will judge you, not man.

To me, it does not matter what religion you are because there are fanatics in all religions. What matters at the end is how people remember you based on your actions and the good you have done.

Peace

Ghost Rider wrote:

<quoted text>The UN is a bigoted organization with the majority being anti-semitism. I think with all the crap the Muslims keep doing to Israel, before they finally strike back shows how level headed they are. Jimmy Carter started running off at the mouth about the Nucelar weapons that Israel has. I think, if they do have those weapons as Carter stated, this shows them to have a leavel head for thinking and disproves everything you Anti-semitics have said. Otherwise they would have blown the hell out of all of the Arabs. If you want to know the facts, Bethlehem that is in Seria, a large portion of Jordan, and a part of Saudi was all once part of Israel. I know, you don't want to believe it. It just shows you don't know your history like you think you do. History does not go back just sixty years. There is no dispute. The land belongs to Israel.

Lets be honest, anyone disagreeing with Israeli policies are anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is misused. There are close to 200 nations in the U.N, all but about 6 agrees with all of Israeli's policies. I did not know Muslems were that large.

Why is Israel not happy with their legal borders? Why do they continue to occupy land that is not legally theirs? The international community recognizes it is occupied and international laws continue to be broken by some of Israeli policies.

If you are Jewish, and have a home, then one day you decide to build an extension on your home overlapping the sidewalk. Are you going to cry anti-semitism in the court of law? Let us say you do use that argument in the court of law, when they rule against you will you call the court system anti-semitism? There are even Jewish Human rights groups disputing some of Israeli policies, are these Jews also anti-semitism?

http://www.btselem.org/English/

Everyone needs to be responsible for their actions, yes even some of Israeli policies. Unless you believe they are above the law.

BTW, parts of history: Egypt used Palistine harbor for trading before any Jews were on that land hence people other then Jews migrated unto that land, Germany claimed most of europe, the romans claimed most europe and some of of Asia, Greece claimed most of europe and asia, the Indians were on north america first. Should we all go back to these borders? land has always switched hands in history, what time line is the correct time line? Should we go back to these borders or live together as humans and respect our boundaries?

Peace

Jimmy Carter says: Jews controls America

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/j ...

The jewish warmonger 1933 and 2008

"Judea Declares War on Germany!" - Daily Express, March 24, 1933.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DailyExpre ...

"It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America." - Adolf Hitler, April, 1945.

http://americandefenseleague.com/judea_declar ...

Judea Declares War on Iran 2oo8
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/41014-olmert-at ...

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Who is the warmonger? The jew. Nobody but the jew wants war. Who do you hear all over in the "media"? The jew calling for war. Iran do not call for war. Iran has never ever once called for war - not once.

It's the same jewish scam and lies all over again.

Outstanding video-doc-on-israeli-lobby 50 min.#2 min Richard Perle

http://robertlindsay.blogspot.com/2008/06/gre ...

Blasphemer wrote:

Israel is the Antichrist they murder Arab Christians

BS

i found a site where you can read the full version of mein kampf, to be honest it made me scared to see how hitler and his nazi regime look like america and israel, or better sayd how israel and america, are doing , acting like the nazi regime, propaganda technics, mixing religion and nation, and when europe countrys are against a war, their are "old europe" like donald rumsfeld sayd, just because europe was against the money making war of america for oil, talking about iraq, here are some pictures taking by the soldiers of freedom, and soldiers out israel, and they not hidding that they are from israel , one off theme has a tattoo of the flag of israel on his arm http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqi-pow/iraq... - here is a woman getting raped, and to make it more horror movie way they having war paint on there faces http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm - on to make a strike 3 go go america go go israel http://www.aztlan.net/torture_iraqi_pows.htm

Bob wrote:

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Lets be honest, anyone disagreeing with Israeli policies are anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is misused.

Many years ago an old Jewish gentleman I knew explained anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism to me this way. He said," An anti-zionist believes that the state of Israel should not exist. I can understand that, it's politics. An anti-semite believes that I should not exist. With this I have a problem."

I don't know or claim to undestand the fine points involved in the terminology, but his words were clear as a bell to me.

truyrturturturturtu wrote:

i found a site where you can read the full version of mein kampf, to be honest it made me scared to see how hitler and his nazi regime look like america and israel, or better sayd how israel and america, are doing , acting like the nazi regime, propaganda technics, mixing religion and nation, and when europe countrys are against a war, their are "old europe" like donald rumsfeld sayd, just because europe was against the money making war of america for oil, talking about iraq, here are some pictures taking by the soldiers of freedom, and soldiers out israel, and they not hidding that they are from israel , one off theme has a tattoo of the flag of israel on his arm http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqi-pow/iraq... - here is a woman getting raped, and to make it more horror movie way they having war paint on there faces http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm - on to make a strike 3 go go america go go israel http://www.aztlan.net/torture_iraqi_pows.htm

Have you posted this on the "Girl Guides raise the price of their cookies?" thread? It seems like you've posted it everywhere else. It doesn't matter how many times you post crap, it remains crap. The only thing your nonsense attracts is flies...and they'll be buzzing around soon I'm sure.(I stole the buzzing part from a poster who shall remain nameless.)

KBTs wrote:

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I applaud and salute you sir (or madam). Truthful, passionate and factual....what a breath of fresh air.
The pinheads are gonna go berserk if they ever figure out what you've said. I wouldn't worry just yet though, you've got lots of time before they attack.

It's refreshing to have anyone recognize this as the truth these days. This board is living proof that if you speak a lie enough times, people start believing it; such a tragedy.

Bob wrote:

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Israel overwhelming power comes from the support of States.
Did G_d write the bible or man? Thru out history man has used religion to deceit other men to meet his agenda. It still happens to this day.
Before any Jews were on that soil, Egypt used its harbor for trades, hence people other than Jews had migrated unto these lands.
A true creator does not play favorites, does not play a real estate agent, loves all his children unconditionally, is not selfish, does not discriminate, does not chase and murder families out of their homes. Is not a racist. If you believe G_d accepts these and more, at the end, it is he that will judge you, not man.
To me, it does not matter what religion you are because there are fanatics in all religions. What matters at the end is how people remember you based on your actions and the good you have done.
Peace

Regardless of religious opinions, what really matters is who holds the power. The Israelis believe that the land was given to them in the Bible, and they have the overwhelming power to enforce their belief. End of story.

heff wrote:

Jimmy Carter says: Jews controls America
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/j ...
The jewish warmonger 1933 and 2008
"Judea Declares War on Germany!" - Daily Express, March 24, 1933.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DailyExpre ...
"It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America." - Adolf Hitler, April, 1945.
http://americandefenseleague.com/judea_declar ...
Judea Declares War on Iran 2oo8
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/41014-olmert-at ...
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Who is the warmonger? The jew. Nobody but the jew wants war. Who do you hear all over in the "media"? The jew calling for war. Iran do not call for war. Iran has never ever once called for war - not once.
It's the same jewish scam and lies all over again.

All I need is a gun and a ticket to Shveeden, can anyone help me please?

"Iran do not call for war. Iran has never ever once called for war - not once."

- You quote Adolf Hitler. You dig up some article on how the jews of Europe (the musicians, the bankers, the art shop owners, jewelers etc.) started WWII by declaring war on Germany, and that the jew is the war monger = It's times like this that I wish I had it in me to murder someone like you in the coldest most brutal way imageinable. I owe my very existance to the Holocaust. If Hitler had never done what he did, I wouldn't be here today. I OWE MY EXISTANCE TO THE BIGGEST STAIN ON MODERN HUMAN HISTORY, and you come here and say that we brought it on our selves? Shame on you, seriously. I hope you get hit by a bus and dragged for 40 feet.

News flash assh0le = Iran did threaten Israel, numerous times in fact. Who the hell in this world has military parades anymore? The Iranians! Trucks loaded with giant missles on display for the masses! You think those are to defend their nation?

Keep mocking jews from the comfort of your parents computer you coward. I would break you in ways you would never think the human body could bend. I emlpore you, go find an Israeli and tell him (or her for that matter) what you think about Adolf and Iran. You'll see first hand just how blood thirsty we can be.

EURO TRASH PUNK

Mohamed Lamb of Shwarma wrote:

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Well I for one am sick of being PC on the matter. Our morals and freedoms are no good to us if we cant use them. Islam has hijacked the same laws that keep us free and protected and used it against us. Their world has labelled me 'a rotten jew, an infidel who will perish', or some BS like that. FOCK EM! They wanna throw stones, the IDF knows how to throw super high tech stones that Syria didnt even fire a pellet at us when we came in there and destroyed their reactor last year.
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but look at what happened to you when you went to lebanon...they defeated you,as the israeli winograd committee, israeli poloticians,analysts and newspapers clearly admitted.

the Syrians didnt want to start a war by replying to your attack...if you were defeated by Hezbollah,what will the Syrians do to you?

try invading them,just to make sure.