Blaming Israel for carnage

KBT,

What is the difference between the Nazis and the Israeli's? Oh God, where to begin. The Nazis rounded up the Jews because they were Jews. They put them in concentration and work camps and either worked them to death or gassed them
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why don`t you use the word CHRISTIANS ?? considering 1/2 of Europe ( Italy, Spain..etc ) were all Allies with Hitler
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. The Nazis stole all their property and hid it for their own usage. When the nazis were on the verge of losing the war they all tried to high-tail it out of Germany and hide around the world so they wouldn't be held responsible for the actions they had previously been so proud of.
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So did the jews steal the Plastinian land, and forge papers of ownership.
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sworn to drive every Jew on earth into the sea. The Israeli's defend their territory by force when needed while the Arabs innocently lob thousands of missiles into populated areas of Israel and send in their own children and women to blow up the Jews in the coffee shops and shopping centres.
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the sea bit was by Christians in Spain, when they were thrown out or forced to convert, and the ARABS took them in.
How can you deffend some thing that is not yours, the rockets are fired on the Palestinians land , where their homes, & lives were once.
Blowing up people was a jewish invention by the terror group Irguns & co.
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You want peace in the Middle East? Try working on the Palestinians to get them to stop attacking Israel. The Jews told the world 'Never Again'... they meant it.
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Israel wants peace , then give back palestinians thier pccupied land.The jews thought in the 40`s & 50`s that the Palestinians would give up fighting and the old will die & the young will forget, but they were WRONG.
Maybe you as a setteler your self will recall how the indians fought hand & foot, scalping, stabbing.. whatever means they had, and you History called the SAVAGES.

Vixi

I hate to say this but you must keep your manners when commenting/debating. Once you introduce profanities your arguments are devalued. It also plays into the hand of those who disagree with you.

In other words don't lose your composure.

If you are angry go and kick the cat. If this does not help bang your head against a brick wall. The latter does wonders to your concentration.

In other words don't take things to serious and maintain a sense of humour.

LWsciencejunkie wrote:

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...Ahhhhhhh....The glorious bliss of soak-n-sip...(I watched a tiny bat crawl up into a folded blanket that hangs over the back door...and not come out!) It's FREEEEEEZIIING here. Poor little guy probably needed a place to keep warm.
Any way, I think I was quite magnanimous in giving it one more shot with V. and learned that, sure enough, she's loonier than a liverwurst lollypop.

Well you had your soak and I will go to bed since it is early morning.
Have a nice day.

JUMKIE,

what an appropriate name you gave your self. I see you are better at poetry ( of dreamers ) than facts.

You are magnanimous between your CULT , but ignorant to all. You do not know anything out side your circle, If you did you would not have opened the doors of Hypocracy on your self.

And here i thought you were on HASHISH , turned out you are on HEN BEN .

MANCHU,

finaly: TAREK AZIZ, and if you did not know that then i do not expect any better from you, even your references are opinions, now the rest of the Christian Iraqi dictators you look up.

typical, no wonder you look up to fellow junkie as your master.

VIXI wrote:

KBT,
What is the difference between the Nazis and the Israeli's? Oh God, where to begin. The Nazis rounded up the Jews because they were Jews. They put them in concentration and work camps and either worked them to death or gassed them
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why don`t you use the word CHRISTIANS ?? considering 1/2 of Europe ( Italy, Spain..etc ) were all Allies with Hitler
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. The Nazis stole all their property and hid it for their own usage. When the nazis were on the verge of losing the war they all tried to high-tail it out of Germany and hide around the world so they wouldn't be held responsible for the actions they had previously been so proud of.
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So did the jews steal the Plastinian land, and forge papers of ownership.
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sworn to drive every Jew on earth into the sea. The Israeli's defend their territory by force when needed while the Arabs innocently lob thousands of missiles into populated areas of Israel and send in their own children and women to blow up the Jews in the coffee shops and shopping centres.
----------
the sea bit was by Christians in Spain, when they were thrown out or forced to convert, and the ARABS took them in.
How can you deffend some thing that is not yours, the rockets are fired on the Palestinians land , where their homes, & lives were once.
Blowing up people was a jewish invention by the terror group Irguns & co.
==========
You want peace in the Middle East? Try working on the Palestinians to get them to stop attacking Israel. The Jews told the world 'Never Again'... they meant it.
----------
Israel wants peace , then give back palestinians thier pccupied land.The jews thought in the 40`s & 50`s that the Palestinians would give up fighting and the old will die & the young will forget, but they were WRONG.
Maybe you as a setteler your self will recall how the indians fought hand & foot, scalping, stabbing.. whatever means they had, and you History called the SAVAGES.

Good work....!

TOM,

It was in the past better to ignore trash thrown at you, as they call it " turn the other cheek ", but as i converted i found out it is better " if some one slaps you on the right cheek, slap him back on the left ".

Give them a taste of their own medecine. He uses trash, so can i.

I do not need to let steam off,infact i enjoy & light up with people like Kunkie,( manchu) God he knows nothing, but be a parrot.

VIXI wrote:

TOM,
It was in the past better to ignore trash thrown at you, as they call it " turn the other cheek ", but as i converted i found out it is better " if some one slaps you on the right cheek, slap him back on the left ".
Give them a taste of their own medecine. He uses trash, so can i.
I do not need to let steam off,infact i enjoy & light up with people like Kunkie,( manchu) God he knows nothing, but be a parrot.

you r suggesting that anyone who criticizes islam should be criticized. anyone who accuses muslim doing certain crime should be judged, and if he did the same thing, label him as a hypocrite. is this your justice system?

hey vixi i want you to make comparison of these five major religion: islam , judaism , christian , hinduism , buddhism

i have some question
1.which do you think has the worst repution? explain why.

2.the most 'innocent' religion?
explain why.

yoda wrote:

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you r suggesting that anyone who criticizes islam should be criticized. anyone who accuses muslim doing certain crime should be judged, and if he did the same thing, label him as a hypocrite. is this your justice system?

Call it what it is: A massacre..

FormerUSarmy wrote:

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Yeah right blame Canada but at the same time you paying more taxes to support unpopular and unfinished war and Israel.
60 Minutes had an excellent segment on tonight about what the Israeli thugs have done in the West Bank and are continuing to do, showed a bright light on the thugs.
Showed them for the thieves and tyrants they are. Over the last 30 years they have built thousands of buildings in illegal settlements, displacing Palestinians, throwing them out of their houses, destroying their houses and businesses.
They have built hundreds of miles of highways but won't let the Palestinians use them. They have constricted the lives, the movement, everything that affects the daily lives of the Palestinians. Now they are building a "Berlin" type wall around the place, consuming 8 percent of the territory.
They are doing exactly what the zionists did during the early part of the 20th Century, stealing what is not theirs. The nutcase of a mayor, a matronly woman, said, "god told them to take it", the West Bank, as it was the holy land that god had given to the yews. It was a great segment.
Showed how the IDF comes in the dark of night, breaks into houses, repeatedly, locks the house residents in a room and uses the house for surveillance for several days, without compensation or even an apology, hmmmmmm, just like tyrants of other nations do to their oppressed underlings..Milosevic and Hitler.

really, I thought it showed one house that gets used for surveillance purposes. And a nicely developed community. The rest showed gaza as a sh!t hole.

I bet if muslims wernt such murderers for their pedoprophet, israel would also be much better neighbors.

hey want a better life ? dont lob rockets at your neighbors for two and a half weeks during the christian and jewish holidays and holy days, savages.

I stand with the BBC and Sky, NO OUTLET FOR CRYING SAVAGE TERRORISTS or their families.

When you lob rockets at your neighbor, don t expect the world to hold your pathetic hand, when you get your violent a$$es kicked.

So nice to see a debate, with out perverted bullies from Port Jefferson, Miller Point and Mt. Sinai.

Whoo hoo !

UsMarineCode wrote:

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Call it what it is: A massacre..

Yes, it's a massacre and War Crime are the inevitable!

Pumpkin wrote:

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Yes, it's a massacre and War Crime are the inevitable!

Is it necessary to make things worse. Only a vindictive duplicitous slime would do so.

Pumpkin wrote:

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Yes, it's a massacre and War Crime are the inevitable!

I spoke too soon I see.

hey Nat, you nut .

Yankee Stadium wrote:

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Is it necessary to make things worse. Only a vindictive duplicitous slime would do so.

Try to restrain from the name calling, it hurts my eyes, I'm not used to being calling a slime, because I'm always Daddy's little Pumpkin.

And yes, israel should be on War Crimes, and I'm waiting with great anticipation for that day, to watch those criminals who committed these atrocities on the Palestinians to be convicted and the Death Sentence applied.

Pumpkin wrote:

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Try to restrain from the name calling, it hurts my eyes, I'm not used to being calling a slime, because I'm always Daddy's little Pumpkin.
And yes, israel should be on War Crimes, and I'm waiting with great anticipation for that day, to watch those criminals who committed these atrocities on the Palestinians to be convicted and the Death Sentence applied.

You speak too higly of yourself, cause if you are who we expect, based on your ISP and its history, your used to much more violence and perversion... but we shall see.....you lose it sooner than later

Funny how you sound exactly like the banned perverts

Tom wrote:

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You might just be interested in this bit of information.
James Bacque, Other Losses-An investigation into mass deaths of German prisoners at the hands of the French and Americans after World War 2, publisher Macdonald.
In the Foreword by Dr. Ernest F. Fisher Jr.,Colonel, Army of the United States (Retired),Arlington, Virginia, 1988 is this extract: "Starting in April 1945, the United States Army and the French army casually annihilated about one million men, most of them in American camps.... For more than four decades this this unprecedented tragedy lay hidden in Allied archives.... How at last did this enormous war crime come to light? The first clues were uncovered in 1986 by the author James Bacque and his assistant..... Some idea of the magnitude of this horror can be gained when it is realized that these deaths exceeded by far all those incurred by the German army in the west between June 1941 and April 1945. In the narrative that follows, the veil is drawn from this tragedy".
Isn't it unfortunate that such a deed has been brushed aside by those responsible, don't you think so.
I came across this history book when I studied history at University. It is amazing what one can find in history books. The internet (www) isn't the only source of interesting information.
It also shows that just about every country has a few skeletons in the closet. Also one has to be careful when pointing the finger at others.

Here's a quote from Stephen A. Ambrose's opinion of Braque's work:

**Our first conclusion was that Mr. Bacque had made a major historical discovery. There _was_ widespread mistreatment of German prisoners in the spring and summer of 1945. Men were beaten, denied water, forced to live in open camps without shelter, given inadequate food rations and inadequate medical care. Their mail was withheld. In some cases prisoners made a "soup" of water and grass in order to deal with their hunger. Men did die needlessly and inexcusably. This must be confronted, and it is to Mr. Bacque's credit that he forces us to do so.

Our second conclusion was that when scholars do the necessary research, they will find Mr. Bacque's work to be worse than worthless. It is seriously - nay, spectacularly - flawed in its most fundamental aspects. Mr. Bacque misuses documents; he misreads documents; he ignores contrary evidence; his statistical methodology is hopelessly compromised; he makes no attempt to look at comparative contexts; he puts words into the mouth of his principal source; he ignores a readily available and absolutely critical source that decisively deals with his central accusation; and, as a consequence of these and and other shortcomings, he reaches conclusions and makes charges that are demonstrably absurd.**

Google Stephen E, Ambrose, his credentials are impressive.

Just because someone wrote a book on a subject doesn't automatically make it a reference work. Not all books, like not all internet information, is factual or honest.

FormerUSarmy wrote:

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Showed how the IDF comes in the dark of night, breaks into houses, repeatedly, locks the house residents in a room and uses the house for surveillance for several days, without compensation or even an apology, hmmmmmm, just like tyrants of other nations do to their oppressed underlings..Milosevic and Hitler.

Not the same at all, Hitler had everyone killed and Milosevic had them tortured and raped before they were killed.

I also question the information regarding the IDF. They may do as you claim, but there are so many stories of their horror that it's hard to filter truth from fiction. Now if the claim said that they locked the ADULT residents in a room and ate the babies I may be more inclined to believe you.:)

Tom wrote:

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What are you saying is that it's ok if you are a bully to take somebody land etc. So it's ok for a criminal to take away your possessions as long as he is bigger than you.
Strange set of values you have got.
Or maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

Wow, right over your head. I'll bet you didn't even feel the breeze.