Micronesians and Rape

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Micronesians have such a small population, but it seems a disproportionate amount of Micronesian men seem to get arrested for rape.

Are you asking "Why does it SEEM a disproportionate number ... get arrested" ?

I would think it's important to know the statistics on both arrests and convictions before you ask such a question.

Otherwise, somebody might well say, "It SEEMS that way to you only because you are selectively perceiving the incidents you read about involving micronesian men to support a prejudice you already harbor toward them. The real statistics actually belie your assumption."

Do you in fact know that the rate of arrests for rape is in fact higher among micronesian men?

You mean well, but White guilt is not going to solve the social problems going on within that community.

It's not guilt, it's called critical thinking. I just want to know what you mean by your question, and given its ambiguity, the precise meaning of your question was unclear.

So I gather you DO know that these rates are higher. What are they exactly? How do they compare to the incidence of rape arrests among other ethnic groups? Where did you get these figures?

Rape is Rape. It does'nt matter what ethnicity you are. Anyone who commits such an act should be castrated.

Rapists come in all shapes, colors and sizes. Yes, even Haoles. Imagine that!

Micronesians also have the highest % by population in hawaii of living in parks, bbq in parks, having dozens of kids running around like wild animals and going on welfare food stamps and housing assistance.

raping and alcoholism/drug abuse just goes along with that lifestyle.

someone told me a lot of em were invited to come to hawaii because the federal gov felt bad about destroying their islands with nuclear bomb tests in the 50s and 60s. Come on down to hawaii, we'll put you on welfare and food stamps and you can keep on living the way you have for 5,000 years!!

I work with sex offenders on the leeward side of Oahu and can tell you that stats kept on suspects convicted of rape show that the leading profile of a sex offender is middle aged (35-45) males of filipino decent. But having worked exstensively throughout the island showed varying profiles depending on the population of a particular race in particular zip code. So if you live in a town where there is a predominant (fill in the blank) population chances are that particular race had the most sex offenders.

Now on the "micronesians and rape" theory. Anyone with a T.V. that watches the six o'clock news can make a claim that in recent cases it appeared that micronesian men are commiting such acts at an alarming pace. Still this does not make them anymore of a suspect then any other race. It just seem's that way with media coverage.

I7 BOY wrote:

I work with sex offenders on the leeward side of Oahu and can tell you that stats kept on suspects convicted of rape show that the leading profile of a sex offender is middle aged (35-45) males of filipino decent. But having worked exstensively throughout the island showed varying profiles depending on the population of a particular race in particular zip code. So if you live in a town where there is a predominant (fill in the blank) population chances are that particular race had the most sex offenders.
Now on the "micronesians and rape" theory. Anyone with a T.V. that watches the six o'clock news can make a claim that in recent cases it appeared that micronesian men are commiting such acts at an alarming pace. Still this does not make them anymore of a suspect then any other race. It just seem's that way with media coverage.

Right. This definitely makes sense, and it's what I suspected. The issue with Micronesians is likely more a perception than reality. And if it SEEMS a certain way, it might be a result of media coverage.

Still, the original statement, was that the number of Micronesians arrested for rape seems high in light of their small population. So it seems we would need to know both the number of arrests and the total population and come up with a "rate." Then compare that rate to the rate of other ethnic groups.

Then I guess there's the issue of sample size. I mean, if you had a rape arrest rate of 33 percent for Finnish Laplanders living here that would seem huge. But if there were only three Finnish Laplanders actually living here, my guess is the figure would be statistically meaningless. I'm not sure how this works concerning Micronesians; I suppose a trained sociologist would have to look at this.

Why wrote:

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Micronesians have such a small population, but it seems a disproportionate amount of Micronesian men seem to get arrested for rape.

Also, why focus on arrests rather than convictions?

Haole_Boy wrote:

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Also, why focus on arrests rather than convictions?

because all that's needed for a non-conviction is a victim's refusal to testify.

P Punipuni wrote:

Micronesians also have the highest % by population in hawaii of living in parks, bbq in parks, having dozens of kids running around like wild animals and going on welfare food stamps and housing assistance.
raping and alcoholism/drug abuse just goes along with that lifestyle.
someone told me a lot of em were invited to come to hawaii because the federal gov felt bad about destroying their islands with nuclear bomb tests in the 50s and 60s. Come on down to hawaii, we'll put you on welfare and food stamps and you can keep on living the way you have for 5,000 years!!

Is it a fact, that Micronesians have the highest % of living in parks...? I DON'T THINK SO!!

First of all, I think its important to clarify that MICRONESIA is a general term...because I can pin point something to POLYNESIANS, but does that mean, all POLYNESIANS? No, I don't think so, it could be Hawaiians, Samoans, Tongans, etc. It is the same with "micronesians"...a lil 411: Micronesia, could be the Guamanians, or Marshallese, or Chuukese, etc.

Secondly, we all have kids that act they way they are, simply because they're just "kids"...so it is unfair for you to say that Micronesians have kids that run around like wild animals...

Lastly, you claimed "you heard from someone"...who might that person be, a fellow Micronesian? Because, I can tell you that MAJORITY of the Micronesian population come to the US to seek medical treatments and educational purposes. Which is in their own free will, because they have the freedom to do so in US soil!!

Just for your very own information, the way Micronesians lived for the past 5000 years was much serene than now with the introduction of Western Civilization...but atleast, they are not fighting to maintain their cultural practices or language, etc.

Rape is rape, anyone with any ethnic background commits such a crime...and they should all be punished for it, but I hope WE all shouldn't make generalizations on everybody else within that ethnic background!!

SSGL wrote:

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Is it a fact, that Micronesians have the highest % of living in parks...? I DON'T THINK SO!!
First of all, I think its important to clarify that MICRONESIA is a general term...because I can pin point something to POLYNESIANS, but does that mean, all POLYNESIANS? No, I don't think so, it could be Hawaiians, Samoans, Tongans, etc. It is the same with "micronesians"...a lil 411: Micronesia, could be the Guamanians, or Marshallese, or Chuukese, etc.
Secondly, we all have kids that act they way they are, simply because they're just "kids"...so it is unfair for you to say that Micronesians have kids that run around like wild animals...
Lastly, you claimed "you heard from someone"...who might that person be, a fellow Micronesian? Because, I can tell you that MAJORITY of the Micronesian population come to the US to seek medical treatments and educational purposes. Which is in their own free will, because they have the freedom to do so in US soil!!
Just for your very own information, the way Micronesians lived for the past 5000 years was much serene than now with the introduction of Western Civilization...but atleast, they are not fighting to maintain their cultural practices or language, etc.
Rape is rape, anyone with any ethnic background commits such a crime...and they should all be punished for it, but I hope WE all shouldn't make generalizations on everybody else within that ethnic background!!

"but atleast, they are not fighting to maintain their cultural practices or language, etc."

Isn't this your generalization on the Hawaiian race???? What's YOUR thinking behind this comment???

The difficult part in finding the root of sexual abuse is the simple fact that race is not a factor. People get things mixed up when using race as a deciding factor. This usually means your a racist.

In my opinion, I feel race is a factor in poverty which affect's a person's education thus affecting his morals which trickles down to an individual's choice. It's not the other way around.

Well, I have seen many men look lustfully at me and i am very careful where I walk. I would trust Micronesian men as much as I would a man from any race.

As for HPD, forget them. They do not prevent, nor do they solve, crime. They have a horrible ranking nationally. I would slash their bloated salaries.

alice wrote:

Well, I have seen many men look lustfully at me ...

Give it up alice. We know you are not an 18 year old student at UH from North Dakota, as you would have us believe in the Honolulu Advertiser Forum. You are also not a dancer stripper in a local club as you told the folks in the Jacksonville North Carolina Forum.
No one looks lustfully at you. In fact no one looks at you. You are old, uattractive, short and dumpy. But you do have a vivid imagination.

well..belive what you must. The truth marches on even as the dogs bark impotently in the dark.

alice wrote:

Well, I have seen many men look lustfully at me and i am very careful where I walk. I would trust Micronesian men as much as I would a man from any race.
As for HPD, forget them. They do not prevent, nor do they solve, crime. They have a horrible ranking nationally. I would slash their bloated salaries.

You're 18 years old for crying out loud...... what the hell do you know about lust? Spare us the details.....it's really making me sick.

I7 BOY wrote:

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"but atleast, they are not fighting to maintain their cultural practices or language, etc."
Isn't this your generalization on the Hawaiian race???? What's YOUR thinking behind this comment???

You're right...but U see, datz my point...WE REALLY SHOULDN'T GENERALIZE!!!

quite true..cultural criticism is valauble and valid but must be done with great sensitivity and equanimity.

SSGL wrote:

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Is it a fact, that Micronesians have the highest % of living in parks...? I DON'T THINK SO!!
First of all, I think its important to clarify that MICRONESIA is a general term...because I can pin point something to POLYNESIANS, but does that mean, all POLYNESIANS? No, I don't think so, it could be Hawaiians, Samoans, Tongans, etc. It is the same with "micronesians"...a lil 411: Micronesia, could be the Guamanians, or Marshallese, or Chuukese, etc.
Secondly, we all have kids that act they way they are, simply because they're just "kids"...so it is unfair for you to say that Micronesians have kids that run around like wild animals...
Lastly, you claimed "you heard from someone"...who might that person be, a fellow Micronesian? Because, I can tell you that MAJORITY of the Micronesian population come to the US to seek medical treatments and educational purposes. Which is in their own free will, because they have the freedom to do so in US soil!!
Just for your very own information, the way Micronesians lived for the past 5000 years was much serene than now with the introduction of Western Civilization...but atleast, they are not fighting to maintain their cultural practices or language, etc.
Rape is rape, anyone with any ethnic background commits such a crime...and they should all be punished for it, but I hope WE all shouldn't make generalizations on everybody else within that ethnic background!!

Ok, you want specifics? The Chuukese are the most violent, vile, no-education having, non-school attending, bettle nut chewing and spitting, disregarding of women's right, raping mofos around.

Hmmm... let me see. The last three, high-profile, extremely violent rapes that made top story news in Hawaii within the last 18 months involved Micronesians, specifically Chuukese men/boys I give you:

1. The young girl down in Nanakuli that was raped by that disgusting-looking Chuukese man. I hope he gets the fat end of the bat in prison.

2. How's this gem? The particularly disturbing gang-rape of the young 11 year-old girl (I think the park near Kalakaua Housing) by the three Chuukese boys from Central Middle School (you like names? I get 'em!)

3. Oh, and last but not least, the middle-aged lady gang-raped by the three Chuukese filthy bastards right on the lawn of the State Capitol.

Let's see... do we see a pattern here? Cannot help but start to wonder.

Chuukese, some Marshallese, are the worst. They do not value education, kids NEVER go to school and that is fact, devalue women to the point where in some places in Chuuk, rape, beating of women is "not that big a deal." Just like education and school attendance in Chuuk is optional at best.

*Bonus* Try going to Restaraunt Row $1 theaters on a weekend to watch a movie and count all the Micros hanging out all day long with their 15 kids, hopping from movie to movie, screaming and yelling throughout, and chewing beetle nut and spitting that sh!t out RIGHT IN THE THEATER. Somebody tame these animals... please.

lets round up these varments and throw them in the ol' pigs pen. now....how the hell are these low lifes flying here to the islands?!!!!!! these cockroaches don't have a dang cent to purchase a
airline ticket!!!!! dont tell me..........the state is funding them our tax money to have them infest here on the island or us congress is the culprit to this mess. just because congress decided to bomb their island and said " hey dont worry we will send you all to fabulous hawaii so you all can rape and murder people" they shouldve sent them to the desert instead. these people are low lifes. to all of those who are defending these low lifes..........they will get you too!!!