State rate of 'working poor' low, report says - News

Hold on-isn't the choo-choo to nowhere going to provide high paying jobs for everyone.

Lionel wrote:

Hold on-isn't the choo-choo to nowhere going to provide high paying jobs for everyone.

Yes. More jobs for wages slightly higher than the working poor.

choo choo is bs wrote:

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Yes. More jobs for wages slightly higher than the working poor.

Tax Joe Q, Public $100, then pay Joe D. Worker $10.

Did this study take into consideration the additional cost burden of increased sewer, water, electricity, property, vehicle registration, food, fuel, education, home care for elderly and others?

Taking numbers from the State unemployment data is deceiving, because the actual numbers is more than double. Allot of people for various reasons DO NOT REGISTER for unemployment benefits. It's also suspect to try to give a rosy picture, especially when the general election is around the corner!~

Maybe the report got skewed by including Hawaii's bloated incompetent overpaid DOE and State bureacracy.

Come on! Who are we kidding here. A military subsidized welfare island where teenage welfare moms and section 8'ers are the norm for the cross breeding locals. The place is dirt poor, run down, and criminally expensive. People are doing jobs that I used to do in high school as adults. The loser men of Oahu not only are living off my tax dollars that I pay to subsidize their rent, but these irresponsible creeps also have to pay child support for someone they knocked up and then try to find enough money to pay for the loser woman that ended up marrying them. It's all about generational welfare passed down along the gene pool, drinking, fighting, and impregnating teenage girls out of wedlock in the Aloha State. This report is crap. The lazy, apathetic, do nothing approach to life with a lack of accountability puts most of these sub-human dregs in dire straights and leads to a marginal existence on a tropical welfare atoll subsidized by the US taxpayers.

What the F wrote:

Come on! Who are we kidding here. A military subsidized welfare island where teenage welfare moms and section 8'ers are the norm for the cross breeding locals. The place is dirt poor, run down, and criminally expensive. People are doing jobs that I used to do in high school as adults. The loser men of Oahu not only are living off my tax dollars that I pay to subsidize their rent, but these irresponsible creeps also have to pay child support for someone they knocked up and then try to find enough money to pay for the loser woman that ended up marrying them. It's all about generational welfare passed down along the gene pool, drinking, fighting, and impregnating teenage girls out of wedlock in the Aloha State. This report is crap. The lazy, apathetic, do nothing approach to life with a lack of accountability puts most of these sub-human dregs in dire straights and leads to a marginal existence on a tropical welfare atoll subsidized by the US taxpayers.

U fergot to mention the ice epidemic there.

Whenever I hear the results of these studies, I've come to the conclusion that the people conducting these studies live in another world -- like the TWILIGHT ZONE! They should move out of their mansions in Kahala and visit the Waianae coast and Kalihi.

Sorry, I don't agree with this article at all.

Sounds like material came from someplace like Utah.

Aloha

Well if McCain wins there will be no more middle class and no "working" poor as there will only be homeless living on the streets , the only people able to survive will be members of "our" government's imperial army ! And their duty will be to fight for the oil corporations , wars in places like Iran to steal their oil too as the U.S. has done with Iraq ! This is the "land of the free" where the working class gets f*cked and the rich get richer !

Good luck to the young woman who was able to succeed, go to school and land a better job. But, know someone whose daughter's unemployment sent her to college and then to graduate studies and after finally graduating, still was not happy with the high paying jobs offered her, refusing them, so it is more than no opportunity to get out of the low paying rut, it is a lot attitude and just plain dealing with people at a job.

I was and still am amazed at her unwillingness to take one of those great jobs. Some people just do not seem to want to work.

Replacing each mention of "working poor" or "employee" with the word "slave" would be more accurate.

A good example to prove that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. Like the article mentioned, the numbers are deceiving because Hawai'i's cost of living is so high.

How are we supposed to afford the rail if 1 out of 5 Hawai'i residents are barely getting by? This will get worse as unemployment rises.

Earl wrote:

Well if McCain wins there will be no more middle class and no "working" poor as there will only be homeless living on the streets , the only people able to survive will be members of "our" government's imperial army ! And their duty will be to fight for the oil corporations , wars in places like Iran to steal their oil too as the U.S. has done with Iraq ! This is the "land of the free" where the working class gets f*cked and the rich get richer !

Sure sounds like socialism doesn't it? The U.S. is heading in that direction if we don't start making major changes now.

Earl wrote:

Well if McCain wins there will be no more middle class and no "working" poor as there will only be homeless living on the streets , the only people able to survive will be members of "our" government's imperial army ! And their duty will be to fight for the oil corporations , wars in places like Iran to steal their oil too as the U.S. has done with Iraq ! This is the "land of the free" where the working class gets f*cked and the rich get richer !

I forgot to mention that the poor would probably be better off under socialistic policies. We wouldn't see as many homeless as well as uninsured Americans. The cronies and crooks in Washington have had their day. Now it's time to clean house and give back to America's working class.

Ice baby is again right. That is why Bush has been destroying the ability and credibility of government to protect the poor and working classes. That was his real agenda. To kill government off and leave the working class and poor without anyone or anything to help them. McPain ios just a dumb stooge of the oligrarchic interests. He will do as he and the moronic Palin are told by defense, Big Oil and israel.

What the F wrote:

Come on! Who are we kidding here. A military subsidized welfare island where teenage welfare moms and section 8'ers are the norm for the cross breeding locals. The place is dirt poor, run down, and criminally expensive. People are doing jobs that I used to do in high school as adults. The loser men of Oahu not only are living off my tax dollars that I pay to subsidize their rent, but these irresponsible creeps also have to pay child support for someone they knocked up and then try to find enough money to pay for the loser woman that ended up marrying them. It's all about generational welfare passed down along the gene pool, drinking, fighting, and impregnating teenage girls out of wedlock in the Aloha State. This report is ****. The lazy, apathetic, do nothing approach to life with a lack of accountability puts most of these sub-human dregs in dire straights and leads to a marginal existence on a tropical welfare atoll subsidized by the US taxpayers.

Well, I would have to partially agree to some of what your saying as a concept; however, maybe if the United States did not illegaly overthrow Hawaii, the original occupants would not be in the position you are presenting. Their culture was quite productive where everyone played a roll. It wasn't perfect, but everyone understood their role. With the change in lieu of Manifest Destiny, the original occupants could not easily adapt. I don't expect you to understand this aspect of the concept, but it is accurate. When you refer to generational welfare, much of this relates to never having a catalyst to change. It would be easy to argue that "every man is created equal" but sorry dude, this is just no the case. So rather than presenting your subjective views, maybe you would be better off keeping them to yourself until you gain a deeper perspective.

Craig wrote:

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Well, I would have to partially agree to some of what your saying as a concept; however, maybe if the United States did not illegaly overthrow Hawaii, the original occupants would not be in the position you are presenting. Their culture was quite productive where everyone played a roll. It wasn't perfect, but everyone understood their role. With the change in lieu of Manifest Destiny, the original occupants could not easily adapt. I don't expect you to understand this aspect of the concept, but it is accurate. When you refer to generational welfare, much of this relates to never having a catalyst to change. It would be easy to argue that "every man is created equal" but sorry dude, this is just no the case. So rather than presenting your subjective views, maybe you would be better off keeping them to yourself until you gain a deeper perspective.

Here we go again with the overthrow nonsense. Tell you what, we'll take back all the modern things you enjoy that's been provided and pull out all the pork projects and government jobs and the all those folks that make up the welfare rolls can fend for themselves. Hawaii provides a high life for all the low-lifes. The truth hurts. The brian will only continue as the brightest and those with a clue flee so your left with the vermin sucking the state coifferes dry.

They for got the low income families with post baccalaurate degrees. I know lots of them including my family.

What are they trying to say?

Most of the poor people in Hawaii don't work?

What the F wrote:

<quoted text>Here we go again with the overthrow nonsense. Tell you what, we'll take back all the modern things you enjoy that's been provided and pull out all the pork projects and government jobs and the all those folks that make up the welfare rolls can fend for themselves. Hawaii provides a high life for all the low-lifes. The truth hurts. The brian will only continue as the brightest and those with a clue flee so your left with the vermin sucking the state coifferes dry.

It's really a little late for that and you are "probably" aware that this is an impossible task. in other words, the fact is what you fail to acknowledge (as I mentioned in my original post your subjective opinion) and it demonstrates that you are speaking from a standpoint of ignorance and thus subjectivity. Please re-post when you have a "valid" argument. Otherwise, don't waste my time with your prejudiced rhetoric that is not valid.