Elizabeth Olten-Rumors

The scared monkeys forum is great because things are rapidly disappearing online (i.e. the you-tube channel, the twitter rants, etc.) but they have caught all the information before it was cleansed. The local media are trying to make this go away, and without the site I wouldn't know a quarter of what I've found out. Only bad thing is I've been waiting 2 days for approval to post, but I'm sure the moderators are inundated with requests with all the children that have gone missing recently.

And Eva, they have the blog content copied and pasted into the Elizabeth Olten #2 thread, so you can read the contents there.

Linda wrote:

Eighteen or so years ago I was a high school student who would be considered "goth" I wore all black, I followed the music. I didn't apply myself in school. I went to concerts and let me inform you of something I never in my life thought of killing someone else, or harming an animal. Did I drink, yep I did. Drugs- maybe pot a handful of times. I changed my life around went to college earned a bachelors degree in behavioral science and moved on to earn a masters degree. Was life perfect for me.. by no means. I came from a divorced home and an alcoholic father. Once again did I think of doing any harm to myself or others due to being" goth" NO NO NO. I had to start at a junior college level to get where I wanted to get. This is a sick sick crime. If I hear she committed these crimes cause she was goth I promise that I will send a letter to the DA that is trying this case. This was a sick girl that needs to be tried to the fullest extent and tried as an ADULT.

I appreciate what you are saying but ...but you weren't Goth. As you said, you just considered yourself Goth. But sounds like you were really just a "normal girl" with more morale and connection to society than you would have liked to have admitted in your teens. True Goth embraces the delight in human torture and the witness to human pain to establish fear and dominance, HENCE the term Goth -from the period of time when such toruture was commonplace. "Goth" originates from the Goth Germanic-Teutonic primitive culture who like the Huns, killed merely for sport to cause widespread barbaric chaos. They often dismembered their victims or watched them bleed to death. I dressed in all black, listened to dark, dreadful music, but all in all ...I was just a normal kid looking for a way to set myself apart and I too had no delusions of such abhorrent behavior. True Goth DOES have some real meaning to it. So to say she was Goth as a way to explain her delight in watching the torture of others is fair and relevant and applicable in this case. Being Goth doesn't cause you to murder, but it you are true to the Goth cults and fixations, you are very prone to being someone detached from the value of life and respect of others outside your own little abyss. I think it's relevant here to help describe her fixation on blood and torture -- in the truest of Goth origins. All in all, she is evil and that little 9 yr old deserved to be in her parents arms right now.

Adrianne wrote:

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She set it to private...what did it say?

This is what it said...

"December 14, 2008 - Sunday
elizabeth 2000-.....
Current mood: drained"

This was on the front of her myspace page - the blog section.
Notice that it says Dec. 14th of LAST YEAR??

They seem to be able to say whatever they want over there. I bet you can post Alyssa's name or whatever you want without getting banned.
http://mixedmartialartscentral.org/forum/show...

dragonfly74 wrote:

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May you not be judged when your time comes...what kind of adult makes such slanderous remarks to what is media and speculation at this point...unless you are directly involved and if you are you need professional guidance...not venting your frustrations in a chat room where people who may be involved can read such uneducated comments. Who calls a child a piece of SH*T??? Seriously?

Well, a lot of people actually. Take a look around these sites about her. You're calling a 15 y/o murderer a child? Really? She is no child. Might as well get used to it. She will get called a lot worse than a POS behind bars!

lucyloohoo wrote:

The myspace blog is very disturbing. I wonder if Alyssa had an accomplice.

How is everyone reading these blogs???

mrg113 wrote:

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How is everyone reading these blogs???

We were able to read them BEFORE they were made private - which was recently.

i think nancy grace is the only one out there is standing up for what happen to are kids in this world im praying for this 9 year old family it would break my heart if i had a child that took another child life so we need to start praying for are children this evil needs to stop you never know when you could be in these shoes so please pray

i wonder about this elizabeth 2000... thing.

i know its her birth year, etc,-- but could it have been a kind of journal or just some other thing, that wasn't about olten? elizabeth is a common name -- its intense to think this may have been planned for a year, and surely possible, but at the same time --- i think there could be other unrelated explanation for that post -- and maybe its a coincidence.

i dunno what i think about it -- yes -- it seems like that was a sign of a plan --- but it just doesn't seem conclusive that that is what its about.

The content of the blog titled elizabeth 2000 is a short story about two girls - the a 'lizzy' being the main character - a perpetrator, actually - not a victim. not sure if it correlates at all - possible, but unlikely. JMO

Nika Nika wrote:

i wonder about this elizabeth 2000... thing.
i know its her birth year, etc,-- but could it have been a kind of journal or just some other thing, that wasn't about olten? elizabeth is a common name -- its intense to think this may have been planned for a year, and surely possible, but at the same time --- i think there could be other unrelated explanation for that post -- and maybe its a coincidence.
i dunno what i think about it -- yes -- it seems like that was a sign of a plan --- but it just doesn't seem conclusive that that is what its about.

I think she put that on there recently as in after this murder. I think she made up a story and back dated it. For what reason who knows. JMO

It's the parents' of both families responsibility for the loss of Elizabeth Olten. Olten parents for letting a 9-year old alone and unsafe and the alleged murderer's parents for not raising a mentally healthy daughter. This is what happens when you are poor and do drugs. Congrats ya'll

Far Tatak wrote:

It's the parents' of both families responsibility for the loss of Elizabeth Olten. Olten parents for letting a 9-year old alone and unsafe and the alleged murderer's parents for not raising a mentally healthy daughter. This is what happens when you are poor and do drugs. Congrats ya'll

It doesn't sound like you've bothered reading the news report. You're just jumping in here talking nonsense in order to judge people, when you don't know what you're talking about. Your kind of poison is as sick as the perp's is.

Midwest girl wrote:

Do Scared Monkeys have anything we don't know? Once you go there, how do you look it up, just by Elizabeth's name? Also, I saw the 3 videos on youtube, but I still don't see where she is "a fat pig" which is irrelevant anyway.

Being a fat pig is very relevant=low self esteem
and perhaps jeolousy of the pretty Elizabeth victim.

Joanne wrote:

<quoted text> Being a fat pig is very relevant=low self esteem
and perhaps jeolousy of the pretty Elizabeth victim.

But she isn't fat!

Joanne wrote:

<quoted text> Being a fat pig is very relevant=low self esteem
and perhaps jeolousy of the pretty Elizabeth victim.

That was NOT her in the video at the pool! She was the one behind the camera! It never showed her in that video.

i was her best friend at one point then i moved to columbia missouri i was shocked to hear what she had done she has been to my new house as of about 4 months ago id say...we have been best friends since 6th grade and im a sophomore in highschool now im so hurt over this im not sure how to get over it...i know the real story but this is the internet all i can say is the girls little sister is very hurt over this and so am i :(
rip elizabeth olten sweetie.

Jennifer, I just wanted to offer a hug and say that I'm sorry your friend let you, other friends and family down. She let herself down too, and she will suffer the consequences of what she's done.

I do hope you will ask your folks to take you to a well trained therapist so you can get a handle on your hurt, and find appropriate outlets for your grief. Make sure any therapist is someone who you feel good talking with, and if not, ask to talk with someone else. Its not about liking or not liking a person, but we do relate better to some people than others. You need all the advantages you can get at this time.

Hopefully her little sister will get some professional help too. Lord knows she needs it. My heart goes out to her.

We all are affected by the things we go through in life, but we are not always able to manage them into a health outcome, and PTSS (Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome) is the usual result, but it can be resolved over time IF the person gets the mental health support they need.

Don't let it slide honey. Get help now so you can get past this without major emotional damage. I wish you well in getting past this major disappointment.

what are the videos under on youtube? that's horrible!

jennifer, what exactly is the real story? if you know the "real story" you should be talking to police instead of posting on a message board