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u cannot own me wrote:
<quoted text>thats ok, you just said you don't have it
What is certain is denial comes easier and easier with some.

I dunno linda...maybe its Alzheimer's, maybe just lost track due to the 16,000 or so posts you have made on this subject, but to paraphrase your comments...you basically said in a response about the harm of smoking around children and attempting to teach children the truth about the harm of smoking and deter them from starting...your response was

"You are so full of it"
"Smokers thrived on SHS in the homes, cars, restaurants, business, government property, libraries, theaters, schools, and more. We are proof that the level is safe after all"

And in later posts you and others talked about how "they are your kids" and "you will do as you please"...as if you own your child...
No the truth of the matter is, parents are responsible to ensure their childrens safety... knowingly putting them at risk, equates to endangerment and calls into question that parents ability to protect their kids...shameful!

Your position is quite clear linda....you think it is ok to endanger the life of a child by negating the dangers of smoking and claiming ownership of the child...you think its ok to promote this activity through your own actions, and you do not think its necessary to honestly educate children on the ills of smoking, because it does not align with your activity or drive to continue this habitual activity!!!

On a side note...antioxidants, Omega 3 fatty acids and B vitamins has been shown to help memory functions and improve brain activity in older folks.

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#1895
Sunday Nov 15
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>What is certain is denial comes easier and easier with some.
I dunno linda...maybe its Alzheimer's, maybe just lost track due to the 16,000 or so posts you have made on this subject, but to paraphrase your comments...you basically said in a response about the harm of smoking around children and attempting to teach children the truth about the harm of smoking and deter them from starting...your response was
"You are so full of it"
"Smokers thrived on SHS in the homes, cars, restaurants, business, government property, libraries, theaters, schools, and more. We are proof that the level is safe after all"
And in later posts you and others talked about how "they are your kids" and "you will do as you please"...as if you own your child...
No the truth of the matter is, parents are responsible to ensure their childrens safety... knowingly putting them at risk, equates to endangerment and calls into question that parents ability to protect their kids...shameful!
Your position is quite clear linda....you think it is ok to endanger the life of a child by negating the dangers of smoking and claiming ownership of the child...you think its ok to promote this activity through your own actions, and you do not think its necessary to honestly educate children on the ills of smoking, because it does not align with your activity or drive to continue this habitual activity!!!
On a side note...antioxidants, Omega 3 fatty acids and B vitamins has been shown to help memory functions and improve brain activity in older folks.
I'll keep checking back to see if you post the links proving you are not a liar LOL
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Sunday Nov 15
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
No the truth of the matter is, parents are responsible to ensure their childrens safety... knowingly putting them at risk, equates to endangerment and calls into question that parents ability to protect their kids...shameful!
Your self righteous hypocrisy would be comical...if you were not using children to spew your hateful propaganda and desperate need for controlling others.

What kind of jerk would feed this to their children and then have the audacity to post what you just did?

Your kind sickens me.

http://www.lifedynamix.com/articles/Nutrition...

"For example a one-pound well done steak contains 4 to 5 micrograms of benzopyrene. This is equivalent to a person smoking 300 cigarettes. Benzopyrene is one of the major cancer causing substances found in tobacco smoke."
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Once again...you are simply following your masters evil plan.

"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."

Adolph Hitler

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Sunday Nov 15
 
PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:
<quoted text>I guess we will just have to wait and see wont we.
You mean the masses in O.H.I.O lied too.!
More they were the ones that were lied too.
PreachingToTheGa rbage

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#1898
Monday Nov 16
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>If they do not stop the activity, then the bar owner is in violation and as a result can and will be fined.
You still dont get it do you.? What does the headlines read ?
Smokers at fault, Not Bars. Tell me now how will the bar owners be in violation.?
Your addiction is getting the best of you and YOU are in denial. Its just possilbe the smoking ban is imploding and you cant handle the true.
Now what was that you was saying about the battles and the War.???

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Monday Nov 16
 
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>More they were the ones that were lied too.
(meant to say)
More like the Ohians were the ones that were lied to.

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Freedom wrote:
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Your self righteous hypocrisy would be comical...if you were not using children to spew your hateful propaganda and desperate need for controlling others.
What kind of jerk would feed this to their children and then have the audacity to post what you just did?
Your kind sickens me.
http://www.lifedynamix.com/articles/Nutrition...
"For example a one-pound well done steak contains 4 to 5 micrograms of benzopyrene. This is equivalent to a person smoking 300 cigarettes. Benzopyrene is one of the major cancer causing substances found in tobacco smoke."
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Once again...you are simply following your masters evil plan.
"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
Adolph Hitler
Soo....you're ok with blowing smoke in the face of babies. You are a role model for all smokers!

I love your logic by the way....I have NEVER heard of ANYONE who died of cancer from eating BEEF! You do realize how RETARDED you just sounded there...right??? You and all your smoking pals must be smoking more than just cigarettes!! Keep up your crying though...very entertaining! I'll enjoy my lunch and my freedom to clean air while I think about all you losers sitting at home puffing away and crying about how you lost your freedom to harm people!!:):):) ROTFLMAO!!
Jed Hill

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Monday Nov 16
 
u cannot own me wrote:
<quoted text> its the stupid jokester moron from Findley that posted ignorant nonsense for a couple of days on another forum..IMO, its best ignored
I'm the new guy around here and I want to make friends,
so I'll say this to you and well start fresh. If you dont like my
jokes, dont laugh. If you have a medical opinion, then please
speak up and speak up loud. But if you ever again tell me or my
surgical staff that were going to lose a patient, Im gonna take
out your lungs with a ______ ice cream scoop. Do you understand
me?
Jed Hill

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Monday Nov 16
 
long gone wrote:
We know Jed Hill is a lier, cause we know the truth. His problem is likey pathologial, so maybe it's not really his fault.
I have an M.D. from Harvard, I am board certified in
cardio-thoracic medicine and trauma surgery, I have been awarded
citations from seven different medical boards in New England, and I
am never, ever sick at sea.
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Monday Nov 16
 
JDH29 wrote:
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Soo....you're ok with blowing smoke in the face of babies. You are a role model for all smokers!
I love your logic by the way....I have NEVER heard of ANYONE who died of cancer from eating BEEF! You do realize how RETARDED you just sounded there...right??? You and all your smoking pals must be smoking more than just cigarettes!! Keep up your crying though...very entertaining! I'll enjoy my lunch and my freedom to clean air while I think about all you losers sitting at home puffing away and crying about how you lost your freedom to harm people!!:):):) ROTFLMAO!!
You really have some gall calling others retarded.

Looks like you are simply a meat addict in complete denial.

http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/...

"Statistically significant elevated risks (ranging from 20 percent to 60 percent) were evident for esophageal, colorectal, liver, and lung cancer, comparing individuals in the highest with those in the lowest quintile of red meat intake," the researchers wrote.
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Now tell us...what kind of person would willingly and knowingly consume and feed their families chopped LUNG cancer when healthier choices are readily available...who then has the audacity to hammer others lifestyle choices they find unhealthy?

That would take quite the hypocrite...eh?

Now...do you feel foolish yet?
PreachingToTheGa rbage

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JDH29 wrote:
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Soo....you're ok with blowing smoke in the face of babies. You are a role model for all smokers!
I love your logic by the way....I have NEVER heard of ANYONE who died of cancer from eating BEEF! You do realize how RETARDED you just sounded there...right??? You and all your smoking pals must be smoking more than just cigarettes!! Keep up your crying though...very entertaining! I'll enjoy my lunch and my freedom to clean air while I think about all you losers sitting at home puffing away and crying about how you lost your freedom to harm people!!:):):) ROTFLMAO!!
Bowel cancer can be cut by eating less red and processed meat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-122...

I guess its your day to eat crow.

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Monday Nov 16
 
JDH29 wrote:
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Soo....you're ok with blowing smoke in the face of babies. You are a role model for all smokers!
Kinda showing your ignorance, where do you see that in this post?

Freedom wrote:
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Your self righteous hypocrisy would be comical...if you were not using children to spew your hateful propaganda and desperate need for controlling others.
What kind of jerk would feed this to their children and then have the audacity to post what you just did?
Your kind sickens me.
http://www.lifedynamix.com/articles/Nutrition ...
"For example a one-pound well done steak contains 4 to 5 micrograms of benzopyrene. This is equivalent to a person smoking 300 cigarettes. Benzopyrene is one of the major cancer causing substances found in tobacco smoke."
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Once again...you are simply following your masters evil plan.
"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
Adolph Hitler

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Monday Nov 16
 
Freedom wrote:
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You really have some gall calling others retarded.
Looks like you are simply a meat addict in complete denial.
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/...
"Statistically significant elevated risks (ranging from 20 percent to 60 percent) were evident for esophageal, colorectal, liver, and lung cancer, comparing individuals in the highest with those in the lowest quintile of red meat intake," the researchers wrote.
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Now tell us...what kind of person would willingly and knowingly consume and feed their families chopped LUNG cancer when healthier choices are readily available...who then has the audacity to hammer others lifestyle choices they find unhealthy?
That would take quite the hypocrite...eh?
Now...do you feel foolish yet?
AGAIN! I will say you are retarded for sorcing that web site. It's created by an ORG!!!!(THE KKK has a website!!! Doesn't mean that any of that garbage they put on there is TRUE/FACTUAL!!)
You DO live in America right... Don't you think you would've heard more about people developing cancer from eating beef since that's the MAJORITY of their diet??!!! Hell...BILLIONS of people eat beef and not once would anyone say...gee!! I hope I don't get cancer!!!(The sergeon general would have to put warnings every time someone bought a hamburger...kinda like the nice little note you get on your pack of death sticks every time!)Seriously...I love your logic. Darwin was right...you have to let the weak/dumb die to become a stronger/BETTER society. Keep smoking away there pal!!:)

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PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:
<quoted text>Bowel cancer can be cut by eating less red and processed meat.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-122...
I guess its your day to eat crow.
Nice webpage....a bunch of celebs are off to the right with a casino advertisement! Really??!! By the way- the title of the article is "How UP TO 80,000 people get cancer every year b/c they drink too much, eat too much, and don't exercise" Hmmmm...do you think a moron (like yourself) who wrote this was a smoker??! I'm betting she is!!:)
just candid

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PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:
<quoted text>Bowel cancer can be cut by eating less red and processed meat.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-122...
I guess its your day to eat crow.
For one at least on, red & processed meat may cause cancer, we agree. >;~(

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u cannot own me wrote:
<quoted text> Kinda showing your ignorance, where do you see that in this post?
Freedom wrote:
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Your self righteous hypocrisy would be comical...if you were not using children to spew your hateful propaganda and desperate need for controlling others.
What kind of jerk would feed this to their children and then have the audacity to post what you just did?
Your kind sickens me.
http://www.lifedynamix.com/articles/Nutrition ...
"For example a one-pound well done steak contains 4 to 5 micrograms of benzopyrene. This is equivalent to a person smoking 300 cigarettes. Benzopyrene is one of the major cancer causing substances found in tobacco smoke."
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Once again...you are simply following your masters evil plan.
"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
Adolph Hitler
Dude...I'm done with you...you've already been owned. LOL. He was going after someone who stated that smoking harms kids. SO THAT MEANS...HE WAS OK WITH BLOWING SMOKE INTO A BABIES FACE! Owned again!! Keep digging yourself deeper moron. love it!:)
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JDH29 wrote:
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Nice webpage....a bunch of celebs are off to the right with a casino advertisement! Really??!! By the way- the title of the article is "How UP TO 80,000 people get cancer every year b/c they drink too much, eat too much, and don't exercise" Hmmmm...do you think a moron (like yourself) who wrote this was a smoker??! I'm betting she is!!:)
Very good you got through the title,and pictures, now go back and read the article. I know its long but take your time, no hurry. There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.

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JDH29 wrote:
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Dude...I'm done with you...you've already been owned. LOL. He was going after someone who stated that smoking harms kids. SO THAT MEANS...HE WAS OK WITH BLOWING SMOKE INTO A BABIES FACE! Owned again!! Keep digging yourself deeper moron. love it!:)
you've been proven a liar

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JDH29 wrote:
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Dude...I'm done with you...you've already been owned. LOL. He was going after someone who stated that smoking harms kids. SO THAT MEANS...HE WAS OK WITH BLOWING SMOKE INTO A BABIES FACE! Owned again!! Keep digging yourself deeper moron. love it!:)
once again, where do you find your statement claim in Freedoms post?

JDH29 wrote:
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Soo....you're ok with blowing smoke in the face of babies. You are a role model for all smokers!

Kinda showing your ignorance, where do you see that in this post?

Freedom wrote:
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Your self righteous hypocrisy would be comical...if you were not using children to spew your hateful propaganda and desperate need for controlling others.
What kind of jerk would feed this to their children and then have the audacity to post what you just did?
Your kind sickens me.
http://www.lifedynamix.com/articles/Nutrition ...
"For example a one-pound well done steak contains 4 to 5 micrograms of benzopyrene. This is equivalent to a person smoking 300 cigarettes. Benzopyrene is one of the major cancer causing substances found in tobacco smoke."
----------
Once again...you are simply following your masters evil plan.
"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
Adolph Hitler
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