Court: Smokers at fault, not bars | The Columbus Dispatch

LOL

"If the health department has such a problem with it, they should be at the bar telling people not to smoke," said the bartender, who refused to identify herself.

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Trolling addict...lmao

So in other words...once again you have no answer.

How well does this line work on the non-smokers who oppose your beloved Nanny state and all it stands for?

Freedom wrote:

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These fools simply worship at the alter of the almighty Big Brother's Nanny state.
What is most comical is none of these antis will even try to answer a question that is so simple.
Then again...trying to convince the casual reader that there is a "safe level" of welding smoke...and "no safe level" of tobacco smoke would be quite humiliating if they actually tried.
Of course...running from easy questions has to be quite embarrassing in and of itself.
Being a anti sure must suck.

True, they would rather call you names to cover up their inability to answer a simple question lol

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>It is very interesting how you pick and choose what and who you want to comment on.
One thing that is clear is that you are not equal in your instinctive maternal senses, meaning that we have yet to see you apply your comments (at least directly) to the primary cast of fools that repeatedly say obnoxious, rude, bogus, irrational, illogical crrrrap that they spew on here post after post, why is that?
Oh well, I guess we can't expect rationalization in the mob mentality of this topic! To many emotions that are tied to this addiction!

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TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>It is very interesting how you pick and choose what and who you want to comment on.

Oh, like you don't, everyone does, including you..

u cannot own me wrote:

Investigator exclusive: Smoking violations soar despite 3-year ban
http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.a...

That really is quite comical...and yet this is exactly what happens when self righteous moral busybodies pass ridiculous laws that they expect people actually to respect.

How many people will break this law if the crazy people currently running our nation get their way?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

What a frightening bunch of socialists.

Cincy Steve wrote:

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Oh, like you don't, everyone does, including you..

It looks like you were spot on, don't have to give them a name. I bet they will get a lot of Ben Dover's though :)

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Trolling addict...lmao

Pot meet kettle..
Seems to me you were getting down on people who were not from Michigan commenting on what you considered Michigan issues!!!

Freedom wrote:

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That really is quite comical...and yet this is exactly what happens when self righteous moral busybodies pass ridiculous laws that they expect people actually to respect.
How many people will break this law if the crazy people currently running our nation get their way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
What a frightening bunch of socialists.

evil devils spawn

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>It is very interesting how you pick and choose what and who you want to comment on.
One thing that is clear is that you are not equal in your instinctive maternal senses, meaning that we have yet to see you apply your comments (at least directly) to the primary cast of fools that repeatedly say obnoxious, rude, bogus, irrational, illogical crrrrap that they spew on here post after post, why is that?
Oh well, I guess we can't expect rationalization in the mob mentality of this topic! To many emotions that are tied to this addiction!

I pick and choose people who can hold a discussion in a civil manner. I thought you and I were on this level but I'm getting the impression you have insulted me. If I am wrong, please let me know.

As for smokers who spew insulting verbiage: I do not "egg them on".

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>It is very interesting how you pick and choose what and who you want to comment on.
One thing that is clear is that you are not equal in your instinctive maternal senses, meaning that we have yet to see you apply your comments (at least directly) to the primary cast of fools that repeatedly say obnoxious, rude, bogus, irrational, illogical crrrrap that they spew on here post after post, why is that?
Oh well, I guess we can't expect rationalization in the mob mentality of this topic! To many emotions that are tied to this addiction!

As for my "instinctive maternal instincts": I save them for MY children. ;-)

PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:

<quoted text>I take it your an Obese Non Smoker.?

Wrong on both counts.

How about you?

Sez Who wrote:

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Wrong on both counts.
How about you?

Nope Im a Happy Smoker, and Im in great shape and exercise every other day and eat right. The plus is Im also a Veteran.

PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:

<quoted text>Nope Im a Happy Smoker, and Im in great shape and exercise every other day and eat right. The plus is Im also a Veteran.

Don't forget to take you anti-oxidents.

Freedom wrote:

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That really is quite comical...and yet this is exactly what happens when self righteous moral busybodies pass ridiculous laws that they expect people actually to respect.
How many people will break this law if the crazy people currently running our nation get their way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
What a frightening bunch of socialists.

anything for a buck and profits

On May 7, 2008 the U.S. government adopted an updated national tobacco dependency treatment policy, a policy that has sellers of FDA approved quit smoking products (Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline and Johnson & Johnson) celebrating, while leaving those dedicated to non-pharmacology quitting shaking their heads in disbelief.

Written by a 24-member private sector panel of "experts" whose extensive pharmaceutical industry financial ties have the new policy mired in controversy, the 276 page updated "Guideline" again proclaims, that with few exceptions, all smokers trying to quit should be directed to go out and purchase pharmaceutical quitting products.

The disclosures fail to provide readers awareness of funds provided to panel members or their organizations by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF), an organization with strong ties to Johnson & Johnson, the company which likely holds the largest share of the U.S. nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) products market. But why care?

http://www.whyquit.com/pr/051308.html

Freedom wrote:

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So in other words...once again you have no answer.
How well does this line work on the non-smokers who oppose your beloved Nanny state and all it stands for?

My answer is...YOUR A TROLL and base your whole argument on bogus and a nonrelative stretch to never never land, it is clear to see you are out of touch.

Did that answer your question for the 74.5'th time?

addict lmao

BleuJei wrote:

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I pick and choose people who can hold a discussion in a civil manner. I thought you and I were on this level but I'm getting the impression you have insulted me. If I am wrong, please let me know.
As for smokers who spew insulting verbiage: I do not "egg them on".

Not meant to be insulting bleu…what I am questioning is the fact that you singled me or my post, yet I do not see you specifically doing that to the others who are nothing short of obnoxious on here.

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>My answer is...YOUR A TROLL and base your whole argument on bogus and a nonrelative stretch to never never land, it is clear to see you are out of touch.
Did that answer your question for the 74.5'th time?
addict lmao

Lets see...you reply with an insulting non-sequitor followed by another insult.

You do know you are making a complete fool of yourself...right?

Why not simply address the points you refuse to deal with?

What is it that you so greatly fear?

Could it be the fact that by providing a logical answer...you would be forced to admit you are a complete hypocrite?

Now tell us oh hopelessly hypocritical one...just what other forms of smoke qualify of your kinds special label of "no safe level"?

Surely by now you must have compiled some kind of list of other forms of smoke that meet your own standard...right?

There is nothing more annoying than a self righteous moral busybody with HUGE double standards...

Smoking. Nothing good about it. It kills.

Drinking. Nothing good about it. It not only kills, it destroys families.

Do you have the right to do it? Sure, where ever it is LEGAL. I don't care to be around it, anywhere. I stay out of places it is allowed. If you want to kill yourself, ruin your kids health, look stupid standing outside when it's 10 below to get your fix, that's your business. But.......why?

R J Reynolds wrote:

Smoking. Nothing good about it. It kills.
Drinking. Nothing good about it. It not only kills, it destroys families.
Do you have the right to do it? Sure, where ever it is LEGAL. I don't care to be around it, anywhere. I stay out of places it is allowed. If you want to kill yourself, ruin your kids health, look stupid standing outside when it's 10 below to get your fix, that's your business. But.......why?

Eerrrr...you do know many of us simply refuse to bow down to big brothers Nanny state...right?

Do you really think self righteous moral busybodies are something new?

If not...what on earth has convinced you that this latest group of control freaks is any different than the ones who came before them?

Are you one of the control freaks who actually seeks laws that forces the owner out of their own building and into 10 below temps to enjoy a LEGAL lifestyle of choice...or would you simply use your right to freedom of association by accepting that not all see life your way?

Your post seems to indicate a willingness to leave others alone...and yet you claim they must stand outdoors?

Which is it?

I don't claim anything. Except, I watched both of my parents die horrible deaths from lung cancer, all from smoking since world war two. I had to learn about my brother in law, in a drunken rage, nearly beating my sister to death. And, I don't nessecarily beat any drum for you addicts to have to stand outside to kill yourself. I don't go anywhere alcohol and tobacco are in use killing people. I stay away from it. I just don't understand why people fight so hard for something so harmful, and ignore fighting for issues that can improve lives. Go have a beer and a smoke, and calm down.