What Happened To The Holland Sentinel Forums?

The Holland Sentinel forums are closed down. Does anyone know why, and for how long?

Hammer

Ian Wilson killed it with his childish antics.

Admin was very irresponsible in its control of the situation.

Gone. Good.

Most of gang is now at www.suckmythumb.com .

Well I am VERY disappointed that the Holland Sentinel has taken away our forum. We are currently building a new (bigger & better) forum with newspapers readers from Holland, Hillsdale, or anyone else who would like to join us.

As you can see the link above my post, please join us at....

suckmythumb.com

Anna

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SilentRunner wrote:

Ian Wilson killed it with his childish antics.
Admin was very irresponsible in its control of the situation.
Gone. Good.
Most of gang is now at www.suckmythumb.com .

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"Ian Wilson killed it with his childish antics."

Au Contraire, Mon Fraire!
Who was the guy that wrote the e-mail to the "higher ups" at the Holland Sentinel?
How long was it AFTER that e-mail was sent that the HSF "doors" were closed?
5 minutes?
50 minutes?
Who killed what bébé de cri?

"Most of gang is now at www.suckmythumb.com ."

Well half the gang is anyways.

;)

You have a graphic of the exit region on your suckmythumb site & expect to be taken seriously!?
I lurked at the sentinel forums and saw nothing worth wasting my time and energy on. There were about 6 people beating the same dead horse topics over and over; religion, abortion, politics, homosexuality & many racists remarks. I'm glad they killed the forums, it was no place I'd want my kids visiting. Why should they waste time & money babysitting the 6 people that used the forums?

izvinite,a vi ne sluchaino ne znaete ssilu na online gazetu objavlenii v gollandii?Pojzaluista,ochen'na do.

"Why should they waste time & money babysitting the 6 people that used the forums?" ~ Very mature

Very Mature - You couldnt be MORE RIGHT! I know from a solid source that is EXACTLY what happened.

SuckMyThumb.com has 40 members and is growing daily.

If only half of the HS forum moved to SuckMyThumb, at least it was the intelligent half. The few dimwits who did show up were summarily given the boot...including Ian Wilson, the biggest dimwit of all, who was given a second chance and still failed. He doesn't know how to conduct himself in a forum. He thinks he is participating intelligently by writing stuff like "maybe, a little, almost, I think".

Mr. Wilson:

You are correct in that a party contacted the Sentinel admins. What you left out is the reason. It was your antics, and up until that point, the admins hadn't been paying attention. After going through just a small portion of your 5000+ postings, their reaction was predictable.

Well what do ya know?
I killed the Holland Sentinel Forum...single handedly. All by myself.

I did it...alllll alone.
No help from nobody.
All by my lonesome.

I did that.
I'm that good.

John_Galt wrote:

Mr. Wilson:
You are correct in that a party contacted the Sentinel admins. What you left out is the reason.

You mean the reason the "other" party contacted the Holland Sentinel Forum admin over and over?
You mean the reason the other party was posting his rants and complaints ALL OVER the HSF in topics that had NOTHING to do with his "reason" for ranting?

You mean the reason this other party (Silent Runner btw) was posting his "WHY DID YOU PULL DOWN MY POST DOWN FROM THIS SIGHT ADMIN?" in 20 point font in EVERY recent topic? Why was HE making a complete fool of himself?

You mean I left out the reason that the above mentioned party (crybaby is what we called them in kindergarten)went over the heads of the HSF admin and wrote to HSF's admins Administration.
You mean I forgot to mention the reason that this "other party" had his panties in a bunch that led to all this contact with admins of Administrations?

You mean you want me to mention that Silent Runner was "censored" a number of times by the admin. Givin plenty of warnings and censored some more...and didn't like it...and had public meltdowns and tantrums. And wrote some e-mails to some bosses of the bosses.

Is that what I should mention?

Should I also mention that THAT EXACT same thing is happening NOW at the Holland Sentinal online editions "Comment Section"?

I'll also mention that that newest moaner at the Holland Sentinal's Comment section ...be moaning about his right to Free Speech (on somebody elses private property btw..LOL) is being infringed upon...moaning the loudest...just also happens to have the user ID John Galt at the HS Comment section.
(is that you?)
(panties got ya bound?)

Who is being "censored" now who is John Galt?
Who is the loudest complainer (we called um crybabies in grade school)? Who is throwing the tantrum?

And who will be to "blame" for the HS Comment section getting yanked? That gonna be me too?
lol

It's OK...I'll take the blame...with pleasure.
;)

No Ian, you will not bring down the HS comment section. Anarchy@home will be taking that honor...

The admins let him break all their own rules and then ban ones who quote him. So i guess the admins will be taking some of blame for this one too.

Wanna know who will be "taking down" the Holland Sentinel comment section?

Look to the author of this letter...
(and I'm SURE many many other letters just like it.)

Tucker wrote:

Mr. E:

I've written you and your editor a number of times, you have never responded. The sole time your editor wrote me, she indicated I would be on moderated status in the comment section of your web site, and it would be removed if I did not commit any more "violations" at the decision of the papers IT administrators. This has yet to happen despite the fact I have done nothing in violation of any of your published rules.

I've also written a few times, complaining about my subsequent web comment section postings that where never appearing and did not appear to violate any of Ms. Fisher's conditions.

and on and on and on and blah blah blah

Thank you

I'm (he/she) is a complainer by nature.
So what can be done? complain, moan, raise a fuss.
You know who I (he/she) am?
I'm a business man. I know people.
I'll (he/she) will do things.
I'll make your job a pain.
I'll (he/she/Tucker/JG?) make you want to make your job easier. I'll make you yank the comment section of your fine and dandy (and biased) newspaper.

and lets not forget this classic...
(paraphrased of course)
"I hope they shut it down. I'll do everything in my power to make them close down the Holland Sentinel Forums. If I can't enjoy myself there NOBODY can"
'member that one Mongoose?
it worked huh?

My rants on the HS forum were a direct response to the inaction by the administration of that mismanaged forum.

Sane rational complaints about the activities of Ian on the HS forum were routinely ignored by the administration.

When the administration ignores complaints of rule-breaking and allows fellow fags to get away with what it won't allow the average forum member to get away with, the only recourse by the average forum member is to either go away or to create the most disturbance he can on the forum. I chose the latter.

So, although Ian the Dimwit can be correctly credited with bringing down the Holland Sentinel forum, I take some pride in the fact that I pushed enough buttons to help make it happen.

A forum such as the Holland Sentinel had cannot exist for long. It will savage itself into oblivion...and that's what happened.

At the www.SuckMyThumb.com forums we don't allow morbid creatures like Ian to control the board.(Like I've said, Ian has twice been kicked off SuckMyThumb because of his misbehavior. He won't be allowed back on.)

sane and rational?
lol
Need a dictionary...again SR?

hows this for sane and rational?

[QUOTE who="The Boss/Silent Rummer"]

You people are morons...
http://suckmythumb.com/hdnhs_phorim/index.php...

[/QUOTE]

and on...and on...and on...
But it's good to admit it SR.
The truth will set you free. ;)
Just too bad about that pride thing.

You and Tucker have fun "bringing down" the comment section. Such a shame.

just a taste...of rational. ;)

JB wrote:

SR,

Railing against the admin is not going to help anyone. You have a beef, send them an email. Personally, I think you give Ian far more power by responding and acting as you are than a simle ignore. You point to the admin as part of the problem. I suggest we have a measure of control by ignoring. Maybe its just not your way of dealing with things. Unfortunately, I think you may pay a heavy price. Your choice.

P.S. The title is still highly objectionable, please consider retitling it. Thank you.

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-Lead, follow or get out of the way
-Are you a Tigger or an Eeyore?

Mr. Wilson:

The primary stated reason I was moderated from the Holland Sentinel Comment section was because of profanity. And while it is true I posted "profanity", what is not stated is I was quoting verbatim "Anarchy@home" in doing so.(and it barely profanity, a nickname for a donkey which anarchy@home was calling me).

Not only hasn't "anarchy@home" been put on moderated status, the very root post I quoted, "profanity" and all, remained. This is not a "forum" we speak of, but a direct extension of the editorial section of a newspaper. My moderation had nothing to do with "profanity", it had to do with the fact I was questioning the reporters in their fact gathering, or lack there of. You saw me on the old forums, despite your dreams here, you know I always conducted myself in a professional manner, even if we disagreed.

A free press can be a benefit to a community, on the other hand, a press that has an agenda, in this case Pro-Obama, Pro-abortion and big government, as the Holland Sentinel adminstrators have, that at the same time squashes voices of dissent, can be a great harm. I doubt "I could bring it down" but I would be happy to with the agenda I am seeing from them. Posters are censored that try to counter the big government agenda.

How is the job hunt coming and are you back in Michigan?

Ian, if your queer friends in the HS forum admin had done their job, the HS forum would still exist.

You and those weird friends of yours are the reason it no longer is available.

By the way, if anyone offers a forum for people to use, people are not imposing upon that person's property rights when they use that forum. Use your goddamned brain, dimwit.

Hey, let's continue this conversaton on SuckMyThumb.com .

Oh. I forgot. You can't. Hahahahaha.

following along?
note the numbers?
(edited by me btw...shows character huh)

SilentRunner wrote:

By the way, if anyone offers a forum for people to use, people are not imposing upon that person's property rights when they use that forum. Use your [g-darned] brain, dimwit.

SilentRunner wrote:

Note to everyone:

If I'm banned from this forum, it's because I speak my mind and it's because the administration applies two different standards to users of this forum. One standard for its buddies and another for the rest of us.

Report to moderator 98.*#*.191.#%@

HSFadmin wrote:

So you want Ian banned because you disagree with him?

And you're becoming arrogant and cocky with the admins for not agreeing with you - which may not even be true?

How many cartoons about you has he posted?

SilentRunner wrote:

People here are allowed to post text and they're allowed to post photographs. My cartoons are both text and pictures. I can express an opinion with a cartoon as well as I can with text or with pictures. He doesn't have to post any cartoons about me if he doesn't want to. Why do you suggest he should?

Arrogant and cocky? No. Like I said before, I speak my mind. I thought that's what forums were for.

Report to moderator 98.*#*.191.#%@

SilentRunner wrote:

No, I believe the forum administration should be brought to task publically. Everyone should be aware of the issues.

If that pusball Ian is allowed by the administration to make a mockery of this forum, then certainly I can voice my opinions without being banned.

Report to moderator 98.*#*.191.#%@

HSFadmin wrote:

You're not banned yet, are you?

How about this:

Silent Runner worries about Silent runner's behavior. If someone violates the rules, report them.

SilentRunner wrote:

Did you notice that Ian displayed my IP address here? There's only one place he could have gotten my IP address: from the Holland Sentinel forum admin.

Are you for real?
YOU, Silent Runner, posted it YOURSELF nearly 11 times...give or take. Remember that now?
lol

SilentRunner wrote:

I sent an email message to Peter Esser, publisher of the Holland Sentinel, last night expressing my concern about the way the forum is being administered and the fact that the forum administration is feeding personal information about me (us?) to Ian Wilson.

I signed the email with my real name, address and phone number and asked him not to reveal that information to anyone on his staff. We'll see how well that works.

Guess what...it worked.
Forum Closed.

One last thing...again....

SilentRunner wrote:

By the way, if anyone offers a forum for people to use, people are not imposing upon that person's property rights when they use that forum. Use your [g-darned] brain, dimwit.

WTH?!?
What kind of gibberish is this?
Your a lawyer now too? lol

Ian,
If I lend you my car, can I turn around and call the police and complain that you stole it?

Of course, not. It's the same with a forum Because the owner is lending it to us (that is, he has solicited users of the forum and has given permission to them to use his forum), he has no complaint when we use it according to the rules he has set.

It doesn't take a lamebrained lawyer to understand that. But, of course, maybe you do need someone to explain it to you.

On the HS forum you didn't obey the rules, but yet you got away with it because of your bedroom buddies who work for the Sentinel.

You're a piece of sht, fellow. I hope you stay in North Carolina and don't stink up Michigan.