Paramedics Discuss OHP, EMT Scuffle

most troopers are not always god even though they think they are and need to be put in there place

That officer's a douche bag. Plain and simple.

I think they were both at fault. The Trooper should have followed them to the Hospital and waited for them to drop off the paitent. If in fact the driver flipped off the Trooper he does deserve a repremand. The EMT in the back should not have gotten in the Troopers face. Watch the video he gets out of the ambulance and walks right up in the face of the Trooper. I thought both the OHP and the EMT's should have considered the patient first.I feel sorry for the patient and the family not the
Trooper or the EMT's. I am actually sick of hearing about it they need to drop it and move on all parties were guilty of misconduct.

I feel the trooper was in the wrong. The EMT got out of the ambulance anouncing that he was in charge of the ambulance and wanted to know what was going on. I feel the trooper had a hot head by just the way he feels his call was more important than the ambulances. Even after he knew there was someone in the back, he kept up the arguing. It makes me angry to watch and feel something needs to be done.

Like a lot of cops, he has let the uniform, badge, and gun inflate his small ego. The trooper's perception is that the failure to yield is a lack of respect to his him personally. He has a problem. This probably not the first outburst, just the first caught on tape.

I am a paramedic myself i cannot beleive the trooper stopped a ambulance with a pt on board.The situation could have been resolved later.I hope the paramedic on that truck is not on duty when that trooper gets hurt.Some people tend to forget where they came from.

Funny, I see a paramedic who rather than trying to remain calm, and respectful, is yelling at the Trooper. If he would have been calm and not come barging out of the BACK of the ambulance, maybe things wouldn't have escalated. The EMT obviously triaged the patient and determined that the condition did not warrant running hot (lights & sirens), so why would you yell and use hand gestures toward a law enforcement officer in this situation. I think that the EMT got what he deserved, a little less respect than he bestowed to the Trooper.

Whoa wrote:

Funny, I see a paramedic who rather than trying to remain calm, and respectful, is yelling at the Trooper. If he would have been calm and not come barging out of the BACK of the ambulance, maybe things wouldn't have escalated. The EMT obviously triaged the patient and determined that the condition did not warrant running hot (lights & sirens), so why would you yell and use hand gestures toward a law enforcement officer in this situation. I think that the EMT got what he deserved, a little less respect than he bestowed to the Trooper.

Neither medics yelled at any point in this incident.

I cannot believe the blatant disrespect of the EMT and the Trooper towards the patient. Regardless of their conditon at said time... they were in route. The EMT did charge out like he was going to fight or something... and the officer handled that well... but after that they both became egotistical and forgot the patient in the back of the ambulance several times just to argue back and forth. I think they should both be charged with stupidity ...pay a fine..say they are sorry and call it a day.

I have been in law enforcement for 15 years, plain and simple, this trooper is in violation. These troopers are taught in the academy, that they are the "top dog" out there and that nobody is above them, why do you think they wear the drill Sgt. hat. believe me, its only for intimidation, not to block out the sun. You can bet, that if the gentleman was not there with the video phone, this would have been another Rodney King. I'm all for equal rights and for officer protection, but where is the NAACP??????? Of for that fact, the ACLU?????

I think the trooper should be fired! No questions asked. The trooper could have interfered with saving someone's life. The tape shows that they were still concerned with the patient in side!

All law enforcement think they can get away with whatever they want no matter what the situation is!

I agree get real. This officer needs to be fired immediately. Thank God for public cams.

The officer should have followed thrm to the hospital and then write the ticket and then take the one from the back of the ambulance to the jail house and book him.What the one in the back did would have anyone else in jail.Also check the laws on running hot and not having to pull over or break ant laws the lights and siren has to be on!!!!!!!So the ambulance is at fault!!!!!No I am not A cop but just a regular person!!!!!!

not above the law wrote:

The officer should have followed thrm to the hospital and then write the ticket and then take the one from the back of the ambulance to the jail house and book him.What the one in the back did would have anyone else in jail.Also check the laws on running hot and not having to pull over or break ant laws the lights and siren has to be on!!!!!!!So the ambulance is at fault!!!!!No I am not A cop but just a regular person!!!!!!

If you watched the video you would see the ambulance clearly pulled over. Also an ambulance does not have to run hot with a patient on board. Emergency or not! When the trooper found out a patient was on board he should have allowed the ambulance to continue. By not doing so the trooper was in violation of the law... If he had allowed the ambulance to continue, no other laws would have been violated.

the trooper has an anger problem. I have been flipped off driving before and if i got out and did what he did it would be called road rage. he has a uniform and gun though so its ok? He should be held to a higher standard than anyone. For his boss to say he did nothing wrong is just another example of law enforcement covering for thier own. No other profession of civil service would be allowed to curse at people like that. Can you imagine a court clerk cursing at someone like that. no, it wouldn't be tolerated but he's a cop so its all ok.

I was at muskogee V.A. hospital for chest pains .that hospital cannot perform angioplasty,so they (contracted ambulance service)transported me to OKC V.A. hospital. the EMT service does not need to use lights or sirens on the turn-pike. I had to get there with no delays. The emt driver used his lights /siren only when the traffic called for it.other wise the constant siren would have stressed me out ,my family was following as well.Thank you very much EMT guys you saved my life. the ride was very pleasant and they insured me to remain calm and thank you V.A. for the double bypass surgery. GOD BLESS YOU ALL

I drove a ambulance in the military for years and we where taught that in you are not running lights and/or sirens that you must follow basic traffic rules. That means that if another emergency vehicle is running lights and/or sirens that you yield to them just like any other POV.

This trooper obviously had something up his butt to actually go back to find the ambulance after his call was cancelled, but why did the EMT stop? Your job as a EMT is to take care of your patient and get them to the hospital. The EMT's should have never left the rig and dispatch should have been called to involve supervisors. You better believe that had this trooper pulled this stunt while on active duty and I was that EMT, he would have been spending that next weekend cleaning body fluids out of ever rig in our bay. My supervisor would have made sure of it!

Unbelievable. Amazing. OHP should simply say "we screwed up and we're sorry." There's no possible excuse. I know the majority of OHP troopers are equally as appalled by this behavior. Bottom line, OHP could have killed an innocent civilian while posturing and threatening an ambulance driver. This officer and his partner showed the world that they're a liability to the State of Oklahoma and a treat to the fine people of Oklahoma.

Heart Patient Jan 04 wrote:

I was at muskogee V.A. hospital for chest pains .that hospital cannot perform angioplasty,so they (contracted ambulance service)transported me to OKC V.A. hospital. the EMT service does not need to use lights or sirens on the turn-pike. I had to get there with no delays. The emt driver used his lights /siren only when the traffic called for it.other wise the constant siren would have stressed me out ,my family was following as well.Thank you very much EMT guys you saved my life. the ride was very pleasant and they insured me to remain calm and thank you V.A. for the double bypass surgery. GOD BLESS YOU ALL

I am glad to see everything turned out OK for you. I am also happy to see you had a good experience with the crew that took care of you...