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Spilling from Ninth Street to the Duke East Campus and attracting an estimated several thousand people from around the state and beyond, Saturday's Gay Pride Parade meant different things to different people, ...

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This was an abominable parade that among the featured participates were known PORN STARS, drag kings and such a few nearly naked unfortunately in the present of LITTLE CHILDREN in and out of the parade. This city needs fervent prayers. Psalms 45:7 says: that God lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness. My Spirit was grieved with the open wickedness and sin that was on display and endorsed by so many people, local officials, businesses, and Churches of Satan masquerading as the Church of Christ. Such as the St John’s metropolitan community church, Calvary United Methodist Church, Duke university divinity school, and others in the parade.

It is evident that these churches believe not the truth of the Gospel so their minds have been corrupted and for this cause they have been sent strong delusions, that they believe a
“lie”.(You can continue to daily and willfully sin against God and be saved).

The truth is that All sins are against GOD. We are living in a day when wrong is being called right and right wrong. ALL humanity has been born into sin and needs a Savior (Jesus). Who said REPENT (turn from sin not to do it again) and believe the gospel unto the saving of the soul.

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William Taylor Sr wrote:
This was an abominable parade that among the featured participates were known PORN STARS, drag kings and such a few nearly naked unfortunately in the present of LITTLE CHILDREN in and out of the parade. This city needs fervent prayers. Psalms 45:7 says: that God lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness. My Spirit was grieved with the open wickedness and sin that was on display and endorsed by so many people, local officials, businesses, and Churches of Satan masquerading as the Church of Christ. Such as the St John’s metropolitan community church, Calvary United Methodist Church, Duke university divinity school, and others in the parade.
It is evident that these churches believe not the truth of the Gospel so their minds have been corrupted and for this cause they have been sent strong delusions, that they believe a
“lie”.(You can continue to daily and willfully sin against God and be saved).
The truth is that All sins are against GOD. We are living in a day when wrong is being called right and right wrong. ALL humanity has been born into sin and needs a Savior (Jesus). Who said REPENT (turn from sin not to do it again) and believe the gospel unto the saving of the soul.
William Taylor Sr.
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Well, William, I do have a question for you. Who gave you the right to judge others? Didn't Jesus say, in the Sermon on the Mount, "judge not lest ye be judged?"
William Taylor Sr

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Enoch…that is a very good question

You are referring to Matt 7:1-20. When read in its complete and proper context. Jesus IS commanding us to judge. HE says get the beam out of our own eye SO WE CAN see clearly to get the mote out of our brother’s eye. We are also told to judge what is the strait way and the broad way, and choose one over the other in this passage of scripture.

The context also commands us to beware of “false prophets” which again necessitates that we JUDGE who is and is not a “false prophet”.

Luke 12:57 “Yea, and WHY EVEN OF YOURSELVES JUDGE YE NOT WHAT IS RIGHT”.

John 7:24 “Judge not according to appearance, but JUDGE RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT”.

The primary issue is: is the judgment accurate or not?

What we are really talking about is whether or not it is right to tell the truth. If someone is a sinner according to Jesus and headed for hell, is it the right thing to do to say so.

The attitude of don’t judge is sending our society to hell. The plain fact of the matter is that WE are not doing the judging: GOD IS. God has already made the judgment. It is one of my duties to communicate that to the world.(Go into all the world and preach the gospel). The question is not,“who are you to judge” The question is,“who are you NOT to tell the world what GOD’s WORD says?” No human being has a right to tell another human being what is right or wrong: only God can determine right and wrong. Those who choose to reject GOD’S JUDMENT and trust their own judgment (see Prov. 3:5) are judging that GOD’S WORD is wrong…then they turn around and accuse the preacher of judging!

If a person says homosexuality is normal, he is JUDGING (or-more accurately- MISjudging) just as much as someone who says that homosexuality is an abomination to God. The question is: is our judgment based on the word of God? Or on our own human intellect?

Bondservant of the Lord Jesus Christ,

William Taylor Sr.
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Tim

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Nobody made you watch the parade did they? Next time don't go if you don't like it.

And so what if there were pron stars, drag kings, and nearly naked people in front of children? You need to worry about yourself and not worry about everyone else so much. I am sure the children in attendance were with their parents, and if they don't have problems with their children seeing what they saw, then why is it a problem for you?

Porn stars are just people who make porn for a living, and children seeing them outside of the porn environment are not harmed in any way.

You say nearly naked people, so I assume you think that children are harmed when they go to the beach or a swimming pool as well since they see nearly naked people at these places.

By the way, do you even know what a drag king is?

William Taylor Sr wrote:
This was an abominable parade that among the featured participates were known PORN STARS, drag kings and such a few nearly naked unfortunately in the present of LITTLE CHILDREN in and out of the parade. This city needs fervent prayers. Psalms 45:7 says: that God lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness. My Spirit was grieved with the open wickedness and sin that was on display and endorsed by so many people, local officials, businesses, and Churches of Satan masquerading as the Church of Christ. Such as the St John’s metropolitan community church, Calvary United Methodist Church, Duke university divinity school, and others in the parade.
It is evident that these churches believe not the truth of the Gospel so their minds have been corrupted and for this cause they have been sent strong delusions, that they believe a
“lie”.(You can continue to daily and willfully sin against God and be saved).
The truth is that All sins are against GOD. We are living in a day when wrong is being called right and right wrong. ALL humanity has been born into sin and needs a Savior (Jesus). Who said REPENT (turn from sin not to do it again) and believe the gospel unto the saving of the soul.
William Taylor Sr.
www.actioncross.net
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You show you know very little of Jesus Christ and his teachings. You seem to know something about judging and hating people you don't know, and you seem to think you speak for God, but from your posts I don't believe you know anything at all about God.

That is my judgement of you sir. Now we have both judged each other. So what? I think you are a closed minded bigot who wants to tell other people how to live, and you think that I am going to hell. Do you feel better now? Good for you. Now crawl back into your hole and pray that someday you will understand the true love of Jesus Christ and begin to understand his teachings.

Thanks for sharing.
William Taylor Sr wrote:
Enoch…that is a very good question
You are referring to Matt 7:1-20. When read in its complete and proper context. Jesus IS commanding us to judge. HE says get the beam out of our own eye SO WE CAN see clearly to get the mote out of our brother’s eye. We are also told to judge what is the strait way and the broad way, and choose one over the other in this passage of scripture.
The context also commands us to beware of “false prophets” which again necessitates that we JUDGE who is and is not a “false prophet”.
Luke 12:57 “Yea, and WHY EVEN OF YOURSELVES JUDGE YE NOT WHAT IS RIGHT”.
John 7:24 “Judge not according to appearance, but JUDGE RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT”.
The primary issue is: is the judgment accurate or not?
What we are really talking about is whether or not it is right to tell the truth. If someone is a sinner according to Jesus and headed for hell, is it the right thing to do to say so.
The attitude of don’t judge is sending our society to hell. The plain fact of the matter is that WE are not doing the judging: GOD IS. God has already made the judgment. It is one of my duties to communicate that to the world.(Go into all the world and preach the gospel). The question is not,“who are you to judge” The question is,“who are you NOT to tell the world what GOD’s WORD says?” No human being has a right to tell another human being what is right or wrong: only God can determine right and wrong. Those who choose to reject GOD’S JUDMENT and trust their own judgment (see Prov. 3:5) are judging that GOD’S WORD is wrong…then they turn around and accuse the preacher of judging!
If a person says homosexuality is normal, he is JUDGING (or-more accurately- MISjudging) just as much as someone who says that homosexuality is an abomination to God. The question is: is our judgment based on the word of God? Or on our own human intellect?
Bondservant of the Lord Jesus Christ,
William Taylor Sr.
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Gay Mom

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"HE says get the beam out of our own eye SO WE CAN see clearly to get the mote out of our brother’s eye. We are also told to judge what is the strait way and the broad way, and choose one over the other in this passage of scripture."

I have seen people screw up the scriptures before, but you take the cake. In a word "WRONG". I won't even waste the time explaining, because you wouldn't listen anyway.
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William Taylor Sr wrote:
Enoch…that is a very good question
You are referring to Matt 7:1-20. When read in its complete and proper context. Jesus IS commanding us to judge. HE says get the beam out of our own eye SO WE CAN see clearly to get the mote out of our brother’s eye.
And when you get that beam out of your eye, come back.

The only one worthy to judge is God. You, sir, are not God.(Oh, and yes, homosexuality is perfectly normal. Average? No. Normal and natural? Yes.)
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Romans 1:26-32

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: FOR EVEN THEIR WOMEN did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And LIKEWISE ALSO THE MEN, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God In their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, HATERS OF GOD, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: WHO KNOWING THE JUDGMENT OF GOD, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Bondservant of the Lord Jesus Christ,

William Taylor Sr.
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William Taylor Sr wrote:
Romans 1:26-32
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: FOR EVEN THEIR WOMEN did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And LIKEWISE ALSO THE MEN, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God In their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, HATERS OF GOD, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: WHO KNOWING THE JUDGMENT OF GOD, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Bondservant of the Lord Jesus Christ,
William Taylor Sr.
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Was that supposed to mean anything?
dances with weebles

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William Taylor Sr wrote:
Romans 1:26-32
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: FOR EVEN THEIR WOMEN did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And LIKEWISE ALSO THE MEN, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God In their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, HATERS OF GOD, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: WHO KNOWING THE JUDGMENT OF GOD, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Bondservant of the Lord Jesus Christ,
William Taylor Sr.
www.actioncross.net
uh... did you know that paul, the author of the letters to the church at rome was gay? did you know that all of the epistles were actually written to his male concubines? maybe you should study a bit of history, you reckon?
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I might be asking for a long sermon I really don't care to read about a religion I've only faint academic interest in, but poor little me is confused. What does this have to do with anything rational in the world?
William Taylor Sr wrote:
Romans 1:26-32
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: FOR EVEN THEIR WOMEN did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And LIKEWISE ALSO THE MEN, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God In their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, HATERS OF GOD, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: WHO KNOWING THE JUDGMENT OF GOD, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Does this mean women are off the hook for this one? Or did I miss the part about lesbianism? Do you want to go back to the good ol' days of stoning people to death too?

May I bring to light the possibility that it may have been lust that was the problem, not homosexuality? Lust is a physical thing and thus not particularly holy, whereas homosexuality can involve emotions of love and commitment and is therefore another thing entirely?

Is it possible that you're taking the Bible much too literally, when even the Catholic church (last I heard) had said it shouldn't be?

Just out of curiosity, what do you think of Exodus 32:14 and what could it mean in regards to this thread?
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William Taylor Sr wrote:
This was an abominable parade that among the featured participates were known PORN STARS, drag kings and such a few nearly naked unfortunately in the present of LITTLE CHILDREN in and out of the parade.
That's what you say. Now let's see what the article on which this thread is based says:

At gay pride events in large cities like New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, sexuality often is blatantly featured on parade floats, according to Hayes.

"But that doesn't go down here," he said. "We don't do things that way. It's counterproductive. I think only a very small number of the gay community thinks they should be able to do whatever they want to on parade day."

Sorry, but it seems the Durham Herald simply has more credibility than you. I don't believe you, and people in Durham will see the plain truth in the paper.

Another quote from the article:

However, Saturday's parade -- unlike those of recent years -- was met with a small demonstration of protesters armed with bullhorns and harsh words.

The protest involved about 15 people, most of them reportedly from South Carolina. They lined up on Main Street opposite the entrance to Duke's East Campus and heckled those parading. No arrests or incidents of violence were reported.

"It was hurtful and hateful to me," said Hayes, the event spokesman. "It's hard on a gay person, and even on a human being, to listen to such castigation. It also underscores the need for parades like this to continue."

Are you one of the 15 protesters? Please look long and hard at what a member of your own community reported. "Hurtful and hateful." Aren't you ashamed of yourself? Have you no human decency that you go to attack your neighbors, just because they won't bow down before your deity? NO ONE wants to hear about your religion!
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what do you think of Exodus 32:14 and what could it mean in regards to this thread?
The God of the Old Testament is a wrathful God because there was no way to repent of sin. The only way God had of disposing of evil was to kill off the evildoers.

Those who trust in Jesus are New Testament creatures upon whom God is not wrathful. He loves all and wants all to come to repentance. However, He says he will not save all because most willfully sin. They are under the Old Law and suffer.
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And when you get that beam out of your eye, come back.
When one is truly born again, the beam IS out of his eye.
The Word of God tells those who are truly born again Righteously to judge -- that is, according to the Word of God. It says that the Righteous judge from a position of not doing what those they judge do.
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<quoted text>The only one worthy to judge is God.
The Word says the Righteous are to judge Righteously -- that is, according to the Word.
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<quoted text>homosexuality is perfectly normal. Average? No. Normal and natural? Yes.)
If that is the case, then you believe God made homosexuals homosexual.
If He did, where, in His Word, does He talk about it on par with the heterosexual creation?
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<quoted text>you seem to think you speak for God...and you think that I am going to hell
No, he doesn't think he speaks for God. The Word of God tells us to declare the Word of God. God has already spoken.

God specifies the credentials for Hell. Read them before it's too late.
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Radny wrote:
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When one is truly born again, the beam IS out of his eye.
The Word of God tells those who are truly born again Righteously to judge -- that is, according to the Word of God. It says that the Righteous judge from a position of not doing what those they judge do.
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The Word says the Righteous are to judge Righteously -- that is, according to the Word.
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If that is the case, then you believe God made homosexuals homosexual.
If He did, where, in His Word, does He talk about it on par with the heterosexual creation?
Don't know where the bible talks about it...and don't care. I'm not Christian, therefore Christian mythology means little to me.
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<quoted text>Well, William, I do have a question for you. Who gave you the right to judge others? Didn't Jesus say, in the Sermon on the Mount, "judge not lest ye be judged?"
He spoke of hypocricy, and Romans 2 makes this clear.

Also, the Word tells the truly born again to judge Righteously.

See, this is what happens when you read the Bible academically; you spend your time looking for verses to try to defeat the Bible, and it doesn't work because each verse is linked to other verses which interpret it in context, and that's what you miss, and it presents us, on a gold platter, the opportunity to defeat your arguments.
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He spoke of hypocricy, and Romans 2 makes this clear.
Also, the Word tells the truly born again to judge Righteously.
See, this is what happens when you read the Bible academically; you spend your time looking for verses to try to defeat the Bible, and it doesn't work because each verse is linked to other verses which interpret it in context, and that's what you miss, and it presents us, on a gold platter, the opportunity to defeat your arguments.
Actually, I don't study the bible academically. When I was a Christian, before I began thinking for myself, I did read the bible. But, since then, I haven't picked the damned thing up.

Well...I did pick it up once; just to throw it in the trash after a rather persistent bible-thumper followed me for four blocks to give me a copy. Other than that, I haven't bothered with it. I prefer fiction with a better story. The bible story doesn't hold my interest. Now, Anne Rice..THERE is a good author. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Bad authors.
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Actually, I don't study the bible academically. When I was a Christian, before I began thinking for myself, I did read the bible. But, since then, I haven't picked the damned thing up.
Then you never were a Christian. You just thought you were. That's Satan's work. You were just his pushover.
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The bible story doesn't hold my interest.
It never did.
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Briscoe Dahlink wrote:
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Then you never were a Christian. You just thought you were. That's Satan's work. You were just his pushover.
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It never did.
So, if one leaves Christianity then they never were a Christian to begin with?

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