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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>Taken responsible for your mental illness. 50% of ALL suicides are homosexuals and 92% of gays admit to contemplating suicide.
SUICIDE = MENTAL ILLNESS = 50% OF SUICIDES ARE HOMOSEXUALS = HOMOSEXUALITY = MENTAL ILLNESS.
SIMPLE MATH.
Gays have an innate suicide gene. Who would choose to commit suicide, so it is genetic in gays?
first of all, I am not gay. I am an educated civil libertarian who understands the equal rights issue in historical and Constitutional and philosophical terms. You are dumb bigot, and an evil human being. I have no doubt that you would gladly harass someone you disagreed with by calling them gay and hounding them with vicious attacks in any way that you could. I bet lots more heteros like you are murderers in fact and in your hearts than gays are suicidal.
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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>70,000 gay pedophile ring busted. 231 gays arrested and 184 children rescued to date.
Recent studies link pedophilia to homosexuality, with the destruction arises from the same socialization factors.
I mean the site was lover-boy. Tell me did you read pasted the first few lines of the article, if so explain to me why only 187 of the suspects out of the 670 suspects were arrested if 70,000 were using it.
How about a link to that study.
Uh oh, bad news for gay men. At Yahoo News yesterday was a report filled with apocalypse and hyperbole about a pedophile ring busted:“THE HAGUE, Netherlands – Police said Wednesday they have smashed a huge international pedophile ring, rescuing 230 children from abuse and arresting 184 suspects — including teachers and police officers.”
Did anyone see where the sex of the children was mentioned?
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Winston Smith wrote:
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Hence the length of this thread. It is driven by Bible thumpers and trolls. The crowd that "gets it" is just responding by trying to point out the obvios that you've summed up so nicely. I guess we'll both burn in hell for this, eh?
careful, the rightwing idiots who post on here do not know what irony is, I bet.One of the disadvantages of not believing in hell is not being able to wish these rightwing vicious hateful persons to go there. I do think there are some nice Christians who are not rightwing haters, and that we should welcome them when we meet them - though it is more likely that they will not be posting on topix, because they will be out doing good works. us freethinkers have time to do good works some times and to do free thinking at other times, or both at once.
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Rules Of Evidence wrote:
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No sorry Mr. honor-less prick it is because of the posts low lifes like YOU write and impressionable young gay youth reading them! It is YOU who has the blood on his hands demon boy! Is your evil genetic? Are you still upset that the reparative therapy didn't work mainly because gayness is innate? Why do you hate yourself so and then take it out on the innocents of the world! Time to check back in to the hospital fool! LOL
that was to one of the rightwing nuts. usually I object to such strong language and insults, but they are so vicious themselves that it is almost impossible to not despise such persons and tell them how evil they are They do not recognize that their hatred itself is a sickness - whether or not they have repression problems, as you seem to imply.

“ANNOY A POLITICIAN”

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DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION:-)

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Existing right????? ssm was never and i mean never intended in any way at all by anyone ever that was not even a thought. gays never had the right ot marry. Are all Californions gay oh thats right the state as a whole voted agianst ssm.
Yes, AN EXISTING RIGHT......granted in the re Marriage ruling from the CSSC in May of 2008!!!

Try reading it sometime:-)

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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>Now, that sounds so gay and so sick. Oh yeah, homsexuality is a mental disorder, a mental illness and so is suicide, and it is no magic that the two often meet.
Tell me doctor, do you swallow or spit?

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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>Taken responsible for your mental illness. 50% of ALL suicides are homosexuals and 92% of gays admit to contemplating suicide.
SUICIDE = MENTAL ILLNESS = 50% OF SUICIDES ARE HOMOSEXUALS = HOMOSEXUALITY = MENTAL ILLNESS.
SIMPLE MATH.
Gays have an innate suicide gene. Who would choose to commit suicide, so it is genetic in gays?
Logical fallacy much?
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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>Please provide source and peer reviewed studies. You cannot.
Gaining access to children has been a long-term
goal of the homosexual movement. In 1972, the
National Coalition of Gay Organizations adopted a
“Gay Rights Platform” that included the following
demand:“Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual
consent.” David Thorstad, a spokesman for the
homosexual rights movement and NAMBLA, clearly
states the objectives:“The ultimate goal of the gay lib-eration movement is the achievement of sexual freedom
for all – not just equal rights for ‘lesbians and gay
men,’ but also freedom of sexual expression for young
people and children.” This goal has not changed since
it was articulated in 1972.6
In 1982, the International Homophilics Institute,
a homosexual orga n i z ation producing homosex u a l
biographies and homosexual historical materials, voted
to support a worldwide age of consent for sexual acts
at first menses for females and first ejaculation for
males. According to Gary A. McIntyre, a member of
the IHI’s “ethics committee,” the organization still
maintained this position as of 1997.7
In 1985, the Second International Gay Youth
Congress met in Dublin and issued a declaration that
stated in part:“As young people, we must be free to
choose our own identities and lifestyles. We oppose
ages of consent and all laws which restrict consensual
sexual activity because, as young people, they limit our
sexual freedom and deny us the right to choose who we
relate to sexually.”8
As part of the effort to normalize sex with children,
some homosexual activists are promoting the
idea that keeping children from sexual activity is actually
a form of child abuse. In fact, one homosexual
magazine hailed pedophiles as prophets of sexual freedom.
An editorial in the July 1995 issue of Guide
magazine declared:
How about websters dictionaries, which I used to give you the definition of pedophile, and homosexuality, you think it has been peer reviewed?
Are you claiming your article is peer reviewed?
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Tell me something I don't know. Problem is that you Xtians are always hiding behind the same dogma and when cornered, always resort to the proverbial "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven."
Well woopty F___ng Doo. I suppose it's a great thing for us Jews that we only have to atone our sins once a year, and you Xtians have to do it a whole lot more often.
Guess we know who "sins" more.
I like the Catholic weekly installment plan to get into heaven.
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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>What are you going to do when it is 9-0 for normal heterosexual marriages and 99% of Americans oppose shameful gay acts of marriage.
I'll care a sign saying, the end of the world is tomorrow.
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havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> careful, the rightwing idiots who post on here do not know what irony is, I bet.One of the disadvantages of not believing in hell is not being able to wish these rightwing vicious hateful persons to go there. I do think there are some nice Christians who are not rightwing haters, and that we should welcome them when we meet them - though it is more likely that they will not be posting on topix, because they will be out doing good works. us freethinkers have time to do good works some times and to do free thinking at other times, or both at once.
You've made some darn good points there.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>What do you want Christians to do? get out their swords? What I don't understand about Jews in this country is why they support a man that seems to not support Israel but instead makes sure the muslim brotherhood takes over the middle east.
The sad part is a lot of americans supported all of the revolutions in the middle east. I bet most still think it was a good thing for the west. Sure the were abusive dictators, but they didn't trust each other. The revolutions just unitified the countries, and none will support the west, all will be hostile to the west.
All I can say is stupidity.
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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>I will explain it to you gays, over and over. NAMBLA is a gay group and part of the LGBT
Gya pedophilia is same sex pedophilia or having sex with children of the same sex.
NAMBLA = North American Boy Love Alliance = gay men
NAWGLA = North American Woman Girl Love alliance =lesbians
Now, pedophilia and homosexuality share the same paraphilia classification and DSM diagnosis, changing the material, to protect gays and pedophiles does not change a thing.
You can use any adjective you want with pedophilia, but it still remains pedophilia.
Have you every watched, to catch a pedator, everyone I've watch was about men trying to hook up with young girls
I supplied the list of paraphilia and homosexuality was not on it.
So you will know, if homosexuality was on the list it was put there by anti-homosexuals who had a agenda to keep the cycle of hate alive.
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<quoted text> nice to see a rational comment. there are too many nasty and stupid persons commenting on this site - too full of hatred for people unlike themselves. The civilized person tries to get along cordially with a variety of other persons - the hateful types go around looking for people to be vicious toward, and gays are a handy category of victims for coward-bullies. just like women and children and animals and people who are alone and people who have no weapons and people with some sort of disability. the haters are the evil people.
I stopped post on here for a while because of that very reason. I was starting to get angry, and I didn't want to fall into their trap, of making homosexual supporters look like angry and hateful people.
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<quoted text> I am not sure with whom you are arguing, or what point. Of course there is fear that certain issues will be voted on, because of the idiot initiative and referendum promoters who are right-wing nut-cases and rich - and there are states where they have caused lots of trouble, such as California. The issue is one of civil liberties and equal rights, and that should not be a matter to be voted on or decided by a mob. It should be decided in accordance with the Constitutional rights - both state and US Constitutions - of individuals. Courts should decide it correctly, but some will duck the issue and some will probably not have the courage to stand for civil liberties and equal rights against the angry mob. But there can be a vote, in an election, even if there should not be. I am willing to bet that parts of the Bill of Rights would be defeated in a referendum in some states after the nasty campaigns that would be waged against civil liberties by folks like the Mormons, the Koch brothers, the Catholic hierarchy, the evangelicals, and assorted rich rightwingers. The American people have not been well educated about the Constitution and civil liberties, and the rightwingers are jumping in to provide untrue versions, and they are fooling other rightwingers and dumb centrists, even.
Not arguing, rather trading posts with a nitwit who, at this point in time, goes by the name Bruno. Sure, certain issues will be voted on, but the issue he and I are discussing is marriage equality. I don't believe, because of the progress of Prop 8 trial and the growing acceptance of gays and lesbians marrying, that there is a fear, or at least as much of a fear, as before the decisions by Judge Walker and the 9th Circuit.
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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>I will explain it to you gays, over and over. NAMBLA is a gay group and part of the LGBT
Gya pedophilia is same sex pedophilia or having sex with children of the same sex.
NAMBLA = North American Boy Love Alliance = gay men
NAWGLA = North American Woman Girl Love alliance =lesbians
Now, pedophilia and homosexuality share the same paraphilia classification and DSM diagnosis, changing the material, to protect gays and pedophiles does not change a thing.
LIE's!!!
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La Dolche Vita wrote:
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LIE's!!!
And they're not worthy of a response!!!
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windsome wisdom of ELH wrote:
<quoted text>You would be lying again, you are spewing and arguing. Yes, since Prop 8u is the law in California, no shame sex marriages here. Marriage normalcy is currently still in 44 states, with 33 states totally off limits.
Prop 8 is no longer the law in CA, it's been deemed unconstitutional, but the freedom for gays and lesbians to marry is on hold until the appeals process runs its course.

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