NHTSA Probes Saturn Timing Chain Failures

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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened a preliminary investigation of Saturn L Series vehicles because of persistent complaints of timing chain failures.

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Trella King

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#41
Oct 3, 2006
 
This is my second Saturn. I had no major problems with my first Saturn. However, the timing chain on my 2000 Saturn failed during morning rush hour traffic. I was surprised to find out that this is a common occurance with Saturns yet there is no recall. This is a safety issue for me and my son. As soon as I can, I'm getting rid of this car and I will NEVER purchase or recommend a Saturn again.
Evan

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#42
Oct 5, 2006
 
For the 2002 thats when GM started putting all the ECOTEC's in their cars and thats a good engine so you shouldn't see any problems with timing chains or common saturn problems
kvn

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#43
Oct 10, 2006
 
i jst have one question, i wanted to know if the saturn LS100 runs one timing belt or chain? hope to hear back.Thanks
Patrick

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#44
Oct 17, 2006
 
Jason wrote:
Well the problems my wife is having with her saturn is all of sudden our two lower brake lights went out, the cyclops i think it's called works just fine when the brake petal is pressed. Had people say it was the relay but at the same time if it was the relay wouldn't none of the lights work we have 1 that works just fine, other two don't so changed the fuse that's not it and since my wife lost her owners manual it doesn't help much.
So bought two new blubs put them in and still the same problem so *Shrug*
I had the same problem in my car (2000 LS1) and they had to replace each tail light($300, but it was still under warranty - and might have even been a recall, so I still had to pay $50 a taillight).

I'm of course here on this forum because my timing chain broke today, ruining he engine. Now I have to decide whetehr to get a refurbished one for $1800 + Labor or just cut my loses. I am pissed Saturn knew about this problem, but I'm not finding that out until today.
John

Katonah, NY

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#45
Oct 29, 2006
 
I have a L200 with 98000 miles. Any one know if there are timing chain problems with this engine?. When I state the car after a few days of no use I hear a grinding noise for a second and then it goes away. This only happens after not using for a few days. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Carla

Chickasha, OK

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#46
Oct 31, 2006
 
The timing chain broke on my Saturn L200 while on the turnpike. Did some research found out this is a very common occurrence. Contacted Saturn, they definitely know about the problem but say its not their problem, the NHTSA has to issue a recall. I think a class action suit might be in order. This problem has harmed too many families across the country. I can't even afford to fix mine. So I guess I pay for a car I cant drive or I ruin my credit. This is ridiculous.
sean

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#47
Nov 9, 2006
 
I own a 2003 saturn ion and when my wife went out to start her car one morning it started then starting shaking immensely, i took it down to the garage, checked it out and then bam tried starting again wouldnt start. Took the engine apart Timing chain snapped. Was kind of amazed considering there was only 57,000 miles on the thing which i have already had to replace a starter at 35,000 miles.
andrew

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#48
Nov 19, 2006
 
John wrote:
I have a L200 with 98000 miles. Any one know if there are timing chain problems with this engine?. When I state the car after a few days of no use I hear a grinding noise for a second and then it goes away. This only happens after not using for a few days. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I have a 2001 l200 with 163000 miles on it and haven't had any powertrain problems,except of the broken front engine mount.When i start the car, I could hear that noise too, but I think it's not a big deal for the 163k engine.This car is super-reliable!
Suz

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#49
Dec 2, 2006
 
I've been having this same problem for 3 years now. My local dealership can never duplicate it...funny, it happened just when I started it the last time I retrieved it from them. The manager ran away...

I'm so done with Saturn.
John wrote:
I have a L200 with 98000 miles. Any one know if there are timing chain problems with this engine?. When I state the car after a few days of no use I hear a grinding noise for a second and then it goes away. This only happens after not using for a few days. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Sean

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#50
Dec 5, 2006
 
I have a 2006 Ion with 61,00 miles. CAr starts up fine but then can't shift out of Park. Brought it to local car shop and he says its something in the elctrical wiring but doesn't know what and would cost too much to find the problem. Showed me way to manually "unlock" so it will shif. Now windshield wipers go on and brake lights go on for now reason. Any ideas?
mike s

Saint Charles, MO

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#51
Dec 8, 2006
 
Jason wrote:
Well the problems my wife is having with her saturn is all of sudden our two lower brake lights went out, the cyclops i think it's called works just fine when the brake petal is pressed. Had people say it was the relay but at the same time if it was the relay wouldn't none of the lights work we have 1 that works just fine, other two don't so changed the fuse that's not it and since my wife lost her owners manual it doesn't help much.
So bought two new blubs put them in and still the same problem so *Shrug*
There is a recall for this take it to your dealer they should fix it at no cost to you at all.
Brad

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#52
Dec 26, 2006
 
becky101505 wrote:
anyone have a timing chain break on a 2002 saturn vue?
Yes. I have a 2002 Vue with the second timing chain failure at 54,438 Miles. The first problem occured at 24663 miles, and was replaced under warantee. Not so lucky with the second, out of warantee, destroyed the engine!. It's still in the dealers shop (going on two weeks) awaiting the district manager to come off vacation to make a descision on how much support I'll get. I think I can guess.
cheryl chester

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#53
Jan 18, 2007
 
i have a saturn 2001 l series. it was a great car. it has only 89000 miles on it and i maintain the engine according to standards. yesterday i was driving home from work less than one mile and the timing chain broke. now i am stuck with a huge repair bill and no car for awhile. saturn has not responded to my emails for help.
Trella King wrote:
This is my second Saturn. I had no major problems with my first Saturn. However, the timing chain on my 2000 Saturn failed during morning rush hour traffic. I was surprised to find out that this is a common occurance with Saturns yet there is no recall. This is a safety issue for me and my son. As soon as I can, I'm getting rid of this car and I will NEVER purchase or recommend a Saturn again.
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#54
Jan 31, 2007
 
Yes. My wife did. She was in heavy traffic when it happened on the beltway. She was able to coast off on a side street. The tensioner disintergrated and this allowed the timming belt to fly loose from the pullys and break. This in turn destroyed the heads. My bill came to approximately $4,500.oo. It ha been set up now for about 6 months. I have brought a new Corolla until I can afford to fix the Vue.
debbie

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#55
Jan 31, 2007
 
My timing chain went on my 2004 Saturn ION. It only has 37,000 miles. We have a lawyer. Just call 1-800-my lemon. They are aware of these issues and will get you results. Also file a report with the NHTSA. In your search engine just type NHTSA SATURN TIMING CHAINS and their website has a place to report the problem. Our bill is at 1200.00 so far. The ignition is also bad, which is also another flaw in the saturns. MAKE THEM PAY
crasy mad

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#56
Feb 14, 2007
 
weird mine does the same thing 2000 saturn l200
JBing from Binghamton wrote:
My timing chain snapped at 74K 220+ miles from home. Saturn was very minimal in assisting me with the repair. They claimed that the failure occured becuase I wasn't "consistent" with my oil changes...ha ha ha. I always changed the oil every 3-6K miles (I was told by the Saturn Tech that every 3K was excessive). I also have a severe vibration at 70-75 mph that they can't isolate, I've put two (yes, 2) new axels and a new front suspension. In addition to all that, I'm on my 3rd set of tires in 2 years. I will never buy another one again...
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#57
Feb 23, 2007
 
I have 2002 sedan and my wheel barren went out at about 42,000 miles. I have been having some problems with it cutting off as well when i took it back to the dealer they claimed they couldn't find anything wrong.It still hesitates at times. I think it's time for a trade-in.
Jack Empson

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#58
Feb 23, 2007
 
Add my daughters 2003 ION to the list of timing chain failures. 55k miles. Paid around $3200 to get a car worth less than $7k fixed.
I was told by the service manager that he has never see that happen. When I went to pick up the car there was a work order and a replacemant chain on the counter just waiting to be installed in another car.

Just think GM has developed a metal chain that has a shorter life than a rubber belt.

I agree with the other posters here it is time for a lawsuit.
marty

Lockport, NY

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#59
Feb 26, 2007
 
Bought a brand new 2006 saturn ion by 14000 km i was stalling on the highway no power i took it in and the car stalled on the mechanic when he went to drive it into his bay. they had my car all day found nothing was told to just drive it and wait for it to happen again, turned out to be a problem in my engine ,as well as 2 mnths ago had to replace my ignition switch won'start in the cold. all i can say is customer service is bad and Don'T waste your time by buying a saturn
mercedez67

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#60
Mar 1, 2007
 
I currrently own a 2003 Saturn Ion with 78,000 miles. I haven't had any problems except for the usual wear and tear. Should I go ahead and have my timing belt changed or replaced?

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