University Of Nevada Las Vegas Makes History By Awarding Nevada's First Ph.D. Degrees In Nursing

Do people really need a doctorate in nursing to change a bedpan at 2AM in the morning?

The comment made by this so called "DR" is indictive of the attitude of most MD's. Physicians don't have a clue what Nursing PhD's do. Nursing PhD's are leaders in the fields of research, hospital administration, teaching, and clinical application of Nursing science. They are the educators of the Nurses of tomorrow. I suggest the good "DR" talk to a Nurse who has a PhD. He might learn something and just might advance to the 21st century in his way of thinking.

No,but they do need one to change a bedpan at 2AM in the afternoon or 2pm in the morning. It helps them to learn unnecessary.

Thomas Castellano BSN RN wrote:

The comment made by this so called "DR" is indictive of the attitude of most MD's. Physicians don't have a clue what Nursing PhD's do. Nursing PhD's are leaders in the fields of research, hospital administration, teaching, and clinical application of Nursing science. They are the educators of the Nurses of tomorrow. I suggest the good "DR" talk to a Nurse who has a PhD. He might learn something and just might advance to the 21st century in his way of thinking.

Touch a nerve?
Dr Joseph Gobels is not a medical doctor, rather, he uses a contrived name for internet purposes. I really believe that a PhD in nursing is a waste of time and effort. You don't need research or any other type of extra effort just to perform basic work practices in nurse's field.
The training system for nurses is basic at best, and that serves the purpose in society.

Training for bedside Nursing is anything but basic. Todays' Nurses need to be smart, critical thinkers that can respond to any crisis. What most layman don't understand is that Nurses are the "Critical Link" in the chain of healthcare. Nurses spend more time with the patient than any other healthcare provider. Doctors ask Nurses what is going on with their patients and Nurses are advocates for good patient care. AND, at 2 in the morning and a patient has a cardiac arrest, it is not the doctor that does the CPR or calls the CODE that saves the patients life. It is a Nurse.

So what?

Kurt wrote:

So what?

it means if your dying the nurse is the one
who will save your life

Any person trained in CPR can save your life. It's been documented.

yeah but in the hospital its the nurse that does that

The janitor at the hospital can do that, too.

Mustafa Ali Obama wrote:

The janitor at the hospital can do that, too.

well thats great but he is not paid to do that.
nurses are paid to save your life and are
better qualified to do so.

Nurses duties are important in patient healthcare practices, but it doesn't take a PhD degree to change out a bedpan, as a previous person expressed it.

Overlooked is Medics in military service. They are OJT Nurses, with No degree other than enlistees in that MOS, right off the street, in need of a job and not partriotism.

US Military medics have a different perspective toward their profession that the basic civilian nurse. They're trained to operate under hostile conditions, often losing their lives saving the soldiers or marines, or suffering wounds, some debilitating. You just can't compare them to the average Joes at Sunrise or UMC.

H-o-r-s-e-sh-it!!! Nurses in hospitals are constantly exposed to ghost microbe germ welfare floating within the hospital walls. established research fact. Only difference: Nurses required to fulfill college requirements for certificate. As a ex military person of (5) years svc. I know what I am talking about. First hand view. Don't forget: To vote New Faces in coming election. Repeat: I am candidat for dist. congresional (3).

Whether you like it or not, civilian nurses aren't anywhere near a military medic, in terms of guts or mental outlook. I doubt you ever served, since somebody who has been a medic or a hosp corpsman would never dare compare the two, and disparage the military one.
How about voting for the candidate that best represents you in political ideals?
Voting new faces in sometimes, if not all times, gets more of the same. In my political area, conservatives rule since we conservatives are the majority.

You are in colloqual Hip-Hop vonecular:Full of s--hit!!!, as to your defensive argument of medics vis-a-vis nurses. Conservative; the left; the right are ambiguous rhetoric. I am of the people and for the people!!! Working people candidate for dist.(3) congressional

I wonder what would possess a person to run for political office knowing he/she doesn't stand for anything. I'm sure your incumbant and his/her opponents, within the party and outside the party, stand for values other than the B.S. line " a man of the people". In my political arena, this man would have to be a multi-millionaire with a fervor to quell unions, quell welfare, and most of all, pay the military medic more money than a sissy nurse at Sunrise.

I think that you miss the point. Nurses who get their PhD's are needed and play a valuable role in the development of new Nurses. They also promote Nursing Science and good Nursing care. Everyone in the Healthcare field is important to good patient care, not just Nurses. I encourage everyone to further their education, Nurse or layman.
Being former military (Army, 4 years active, 1 NG), I believe that the medical personal in all the services are very good and work hard. I was not a Nurse in the Army but knew soliders that were. They were professional, knowledgeable, tough, and many had combat experience both on and off the battlefield. I was proud to know them and they influenced me to become a Nurse. So, I Salute all Military Nurses, medics, and everyone else that looks after our military.

Nurses are overrated.