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A 'Second-Wave' AIDS Epidemic?

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“Fundie SMACKER..”

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Shawn.. until these religious genocidal murderers actually ADMIT this problem it will never go away.

They can hide thier heads in the sand and hope to holy hell the bible will keep them safe.. but as we all know the bible is NOT a vaccine nor is it a condom.
Until then those communities will suffer and die because of the ignorance and bigotry.. the RC church is most likely the biggest offender!
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1noteasilyfooled wrote:
...the RC church is most likely the biggest offender!
Fascinating accusation. Please explain with facts.
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1noteasilyfooled wrote:
Shawn.. until these religious genocidal murderers actually ADMIT this problem it will never go away.
They can hide thier heads in the sand and hope to holy hell the bible will keep them safe.. but as we all know the bible is NOT a vaccine nor is it a condom.
Until then those communities will suffer and die because of the ignorance and bigotry.. the RC church is most likely the biggest offender!
"Religious genocidal murderers"? What a ridiculous generalization.

It's an individual's responsibility to take every precaution possible to prevent contracting ANY STD. If a person is too ignorant to do this, que sera, sera.
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Jun 29, 2008
 
African American women have the highest rate of new cases.
Grampy wrote:
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Reread the article. Which group is leading in HIV proliferation within our country? Perhaps worldwide with Africa included more hetrosexuals are afflicted. But in our country which group brought it here and which group is leading in new infections?

“Fundie SMACKER..”

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CThomas wrote:
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Fascinating accusation. Please explain with facts.
Easy.. google Vatican and condoms.

here I've done it for you:
http://www.google.com/search...
lots of reading!

“Fundie SMACKER..”

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Scott wrote:
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"Religious genocidal murderers"? What a ridiculous generalization.
It's an individual's responsibility to take every precaution possible to prevent contracting ANY STD. If a person is too ignorant to do this, que sera, sera.
I don't think so..

All you hear out of the religious rights mouth is that's it's "god's punishment for homosexuals" or "it's a gay disease".. now tell me THAT isn't the case and they never said that.
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Great post, you absolutely have it right. And the "war on drugs" isnt helping anything either.
Shawn M Lang wrote:
While the recent data should be a awake up call for all gay men; the article reports that the steepest increase in AIDS cases is among young, black men who have sex with other men. Many of these men do not consider themselves gay which make it difficult to reach them through traditional gay-focused prevention efforts given the cultural barriers and community homophobia. The data also needs to be viewed cautiously for a few reasons.
First, they're talking about AIDS cases, NOT new HIV infections. There was a 12% increase in the 13 - 24 year old group which means that the vast majority were infected when they were teens. There are very few CDC "approved" prevention interventions for young men of color who have sex with other men. AIDS service organizations can't use federal prevention funds for anything other than the DEBIs (Diffusion of Effective Behavioral Interventions) which limits who they can reach and how. Schools for the most part do NOT offer comprehensive sexuality education and only provide the one-shot "sex ed" in health class. Second, it's data from 33 states which doesn't allow for a thourough analysis. Not all states have what's considered mature HIV/AIDS data which, according to the CDC and HRSA is 5+ years of names-based reporting; so the data referred to in the article is limited.
The only way to know your own status is to get tested. The state funded testing and counseling sites offer free, confidential or anonymous testing, and includes a risk assessment and risk reduction information.

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

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1noteasilyfooled wrote:
Shawn.. until these religious genocidal murderers actually ADMIT this problem it will never go away.
They can hide thier heads in the sand and hope to holy hell the bible will keep them safe.. but as we all know the bible is NOT a vaccine nor is it a condom.
Until then those communities will suffer and die because of the ignorance and bigotry.. the RC church is most likely the biggest offender!
Any 'real' Christian knows that this life is less than a tiny fraction of our next life. So why do we care so much about this one?

“Shawnzo”

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CThomas wrote:
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Fascinating accusation. Please explain with facts.
The previous pope, while in Africa, told people NOT to use condoms. During the time when the previous pope visited Africa, he spent time in Lesotho (where they built a pavilion just for his visit). Lesotho has the third highest rate of HIV/AIDS in the world and close to 100,000 children orphaned by AIDS. He told people not to use condoms.

“Shawnzo”

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OOppps...I said that twice! I guess it was that important.
CThomas

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1noteasilyfooled wrote:
<quoted text>Easy.. google Vatican and condoms...
I already know the Vatican is against condom use. What I'm asking is what facts you have to back up your accusation?

The google search provides no supporting evidence for the accusation.
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Shawn M Lang wrote:
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The previous pope, while in Africa, told people NOT to use condoms...
Thanks for something more specific than noteasilyfooled provided.

So would you say the RC church is helping the spread of HIV/AIDS by "guilting" people out of using condoms?

If so, isn't it helping prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS by "guilting" people into abstinence?

I'm genuinely interested in your perspective.
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Mike Hunt wrote:
African American women have the highest rate of new cases.
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Please "D-Up". African American women have the highest rate of new cases among women. Men lead women by better than 2 to 1 in new HIV diagnoses each year.
Go to: www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm...

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CThomas wrote:
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Thanks for something more specific than noteasilyfooled provided.
So would you say the RC church is helping the spread of HIV/AIDS by "guilting" people out of using condoms?
If so, isn't it helping prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS by "guilting" people into abstinence?
I'm genuinely interested in your perspective.
Any person or organization that doesn't support the use of condoms as a viable prevention strategy is indeed contributing to the spread of HIV and other STIs. I support comprehensive sexuality education which includes abstinence but believe that if people choose to have sex then condoms should be part of a responsible plan. Ronald Reagan (how I shudder at even writing that name...) contributed to the spread of HIV/AIDS when, during his presidency (such as it was), he didn't even speak the word until 7 years into it. During that time, hundreds of thousands died. It wasn't until his own friend, Rock Hudson went public that he uttered the word. We might not be in as bad a mess as we are had he acted from the begining.

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The statistics on HIV diagnoses in this country are limited and should be viewed with caution because (as I mentioned previously)a number of states, including CT, have not had HIV names-reporting for a long enough period of time to be considered mature data. We're (the US) probably another 3 - 5 years out before we have mature enough data to analyze to really see where the trends are.

For ex:, in CT 70% of chalmydia cases occur in youth between the ages of 15 -24; and 13% of new AIDS (not HIV) cases were reported in young people under 29 (which means most were infected as teens). We're not reaching our youth with age-appropriate, medically accurate comprehensive sex ed. It's the first line of defense in HIV prevention.
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In St.Petersburg FL a doctor was fired for releasing info that 50% of Black males in South St Pete were HIV positive. The number was accurate, but it wasn't Politically Correct.

It is the liberals that fight the dissemination of truth about AIDS. The hip-hop generation will be known as the HIV-genital wart generation.
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Shawn M Lang wrote:
While the recent data should be a awake up call for all gay men; the article reports that the steepest increase in AIDS cases is among young, black men who have sex with other men. Many of these men do not consider themselves gay which make it difficult to reach them through traditional gay-focused prevention efforts given the cultural barriers and community homophobia. The data also needs to be viewed cautiously for a few reasons.
First, they're talking about AIDS cases, NOT new HIV infections. There was a 12% increase in the 13 - 24 year old group which means that the vast majority were infected when they were teens. There are very few CDC "approved" prevention interventions for young men of color who have sex with other men. AIDS service organizations can't use federal prevention funds for anything other than the DEBIs (Diffusion of Effective Behavioral Interventions) which limits who they can reach and how. Schools for the most part do NOT offer comprehensive sexuality education and only provide the one-shot "sex ed" in health class. Second, it's data from 33 states which doesn't allow for a thourough analysis. Not all states have what's considered mature HIV/AIDS data which, according to the CDC and HRSA is 5+ years of names-based reporting; so the data referred to in the article is limited.
The only way to know your own status is to get tested. The state funded testing and counseling sites offer free, confidential or anonymous testing, and includes a risk assessment and risk reduction information.
Please read the article again. You are wrong.
The article's title is misleading. The first paragraph talks of new HIV infections, as does most of the rest of the article. It says in paragraph three that it appears to confirm impressions that a "second-wave" AIDS epidemic is underway. Meaning the new HIV positive test results make it look like it will eventually lead to a new AIDS epidemic.
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Shawn M Lang wrote:
The statistics on HIV diagnoses in this country are limited and should be viewed with caution because (as I mentioned previously)a number of states, including CT, have not had HIV names-reporting for a long enough period of time to be considered mature data. We're (the US) probably another 3 - 5 years out before we have mature enough data to analyze to really see where the trends are.
For ex:, in CT 70% of chalmydia cases occur in youth between the ages of 15 -24; and 13% of new AIDS (not HIV) cases were reported in young people under 29 (which means most were infected as teens). We're not reaching our youth with age-appropriate, medically accurate comprehensive sex ed. It's the first line of defense in HIV prevention.
Sex ed ... handing out condoms in schools, is what has generated promicuous behavior, and created the problem it was supposed to suppress.
There is a reason AIDS is prevalent in the black community. With 70% of children born to single moms, the promiscuity rate is very high, and the fidelity rate is very low. Even though AIDS itself is difficult to transmit heterosexually, when other STDS are present, it opens the door for AIDS. Too many people are dieing of stupid.

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Grampy wrote:
We've had 20 years of failed prevention programs. Sooner or later this virus will mutate into a more virulent strain rendering ineffective the entire rainbow of colored pills for these ignorant people. Or even worse mutatation that makes it an airborne contagion. How long before the CDC realizes the only way to stop this pandemic is to isolate the infected.
The same time they realize tha the only way to increase your intelligence quotient is with a lobotomy...

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Glasnos wrote:
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Sex ed ... handing out condoms in schools, is what has generated promicuous behavior, and created the problem it was supposed to suppress.
There is a reason AIDS is prevalent in the black community. With 70% of children born to single moms, the promiscuity rate is very high, and the fidelity rate is very low. Even though AIDS itself is difficult to transmit heterosexually, when other STDS are present, it opens the door for AIDS. Too many people are dieing of stupid.
You are ignorant and full of nothing but bullshit (not to mention illiterate)...
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