The Bible's Vindication of Obama's Middle East Strategy

Kensey wrote:

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hum...funny I thought hammerhead said that..:)
so you are hammerhead too?

He can't be, I am, I was trying to figure out why he posted that, I guess he's a megalomaniac.

Kensey wrote:

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So now you are God and you have the ability to judge ones heart? How do you know what is in the heart of Israel?

No one can, but you can judge people by their actions, because actions speaks louder than words(anybody can make any claim, and often do).

par five wrote:

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Some winning side! If you Christians really believe what you are always telling us about the need for salvation through Jesus Christ, then Israel is a country full of Jews all bound for a very long spell in the furnace! You either believe what you preach or you don't. Not a lot of wriggle room on this one. God's chosen people all going to hell!

Very true. Who exactly is Israel in 2009? I believe that it is all the Jews and Gentiles who have converted to Christ as their Savior. Read Romans 9,10, and 11. Note that Romans 11 is PRESENT tense from Paul's time. He is talking about the remnant of Jews to be saved, i.e the Jews that converted.'Israel' since Christ are the saved Jews and Gentiles. Christ coming changed the meaning of the word Israel.

hammerhead wrote:

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No one can, but you can judge people by their actions, because actions speaks louder than words(anybody can make any claim, and often do).

this is true, The Bible says we would know someone by the fruit they bare. Same thing..actions/fruit.

Truth wrote:

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Very true. Who exactly is Israel in 2009? I believe that it is all the Jews and Gentiles who have converted to Christ as their Savior. Read Romans 9,10, and 11. Note that Romans 11 is PRESENT tense from Paul's time. He is talking about the remnant of Jews to be saved, i.e the Jews that converted.'Israel' since Christ are the saved Jews and Gentiles. Christ coming changed the meaning of the word Israel.

No, it is not true that all Jews are going to hell.

"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."

God has bound all men over to disobedience so that He may have mercy on them.

Who but God knows how many 'remnant' shall be saved? That is His business and not ours to question.

hammerhead wrote:

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And now the jedi mind trick approach.

And what about the Satan mind trick that you are attempting to use? Sorry does not work with Christians.

Kensey wrote:

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So now you are God and you have the ability to judge ones heart? How do you know what is in the heart of Israel?
We tell you about the need for salvation only out of Love Par...its your choice of course but as christians we are obligated to tell you. God Bless

Not my judgement if you take the time to read my post properly. I was simply stating the view expressed time and time again by Christians on this forum that there is only one way to obtain salvation, and if that is the case there is no way that those who adhere to the Jewish faith can achieve that. That is not what I think, it is what Christians think and what they have expressed time and time again. You only have to read some of Wayne's posts amongst others, to see that. Now we have Gabi in California saying that your god can apparently grant dispensations. Again, not what I have heard from the very vocal bible believing Christians on this forum. BTW Kensey, you have more than a bit of cheek saying to me, "So now you are God and you have the ability to judge ones heart? How do you know what is in the heart of Israel?" This from someone who very recently had the arrogance to judge the state of my conscience. And the answers to both your questions are no, and I don't.

janeebananee wrote:

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It's not Israel's nukes that stay her enemies' aggressions.
It's Israel's FRIENDS' nukes.!!

Uh no, the US won't have to lift a finger if it's Nuke time. Israel has around 280+ nuclear weapons, well enough to reduce all the major cities of the Middle East to glass. If Israel goes it will take the entire Middle East with it. Which means the US won't get any more Oil.

So Israel has to live and will always be supported by the US... At least until all the oil in the Middle East dries up.

Gabi in California wrote:

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"I will bless them that bless thee and curse them that curse thee"
Israel's enemies have all been defeated, you just have to look at the 'Six Day war' to know who's side God was on.

Israel had the backing of two superpowers the U.S AND THE BRITS and the military intelligence to boot, as we know it takes no miracle, to defeat the Arab untrained undiscaplined army of Allah..They are not the fierce fighter, that the taliban are, that not even the superpower U.S military can defeat, at the moment..WAKE UP STOP BELIEVING ALL THE RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDA OF THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS..THAT WOULD BE A MIRACLE..

PhukIsrael wrote:

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And the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and that Iraq had WMD's

everything you stated is true except.....

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium...

A Watcher wrote:

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Uh no, the US won't have to lift a finger if it's Nuke time. Israel has around 280+ nuclear weapons, well enough to reduce all the major cities of the Middle East to glass. If Israel goes it will take the entire Middle East with it. Which means the US won't get any more Oil.
So Israel has to live and will always be supported by the US... At least until all the oil in the Middle East dries up.

The reason Israel has been lying for last ten years, saying Iran is one year away from having their own nuclear bomb, is because the Israeli's are guilty of violating the international laws against nuclear weapons, so they use Iran to hide the fact, that they are the ones in violation..HYPOCRACY 101, SUPPORTED BY THE U.S...If Israel bombs Iran domestic nuclear power plant, all hell is going to break loose for the U.S when it comes to energy, if that were to happen, Obama should cut off all financial support for Israel..LET THEM FIGHT THEIR OWN BATTLE, AFTER ALL THEY CLAIM GOD IS ON THEIR SIDE..