Who do you support for Governor in Pennsylvania in 2010?

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John Galt wrote:
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State liquor stores are the farthest thing possible from the free market.
But never fear, your unionized shelf-stocking and register skills may qualify you for a supermarket job. Those guys are union as well.
Plus, someone with the name "skip the pee pee" should not criticize anybody.
OK, so I'll admit I've been having a little trouble following this. But from what I can tell, a user named Skip to the Pee Pee is against it.
Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much of a compelling argument from either side. So let me take one....
The conservative crowd is decidedly anti government, anti union. Perhaps a simplification, but come on, that is a bit of a mantra at this point.
So why, oh why, would there be support for LITERALLY socialized alcohol sales in the state of Pennsylvania?
Well, first you have to remove the prudish, teetotaling portion of the state - those who want the guv'ment to keep their grubby hands off their guns and out of women's vaginas.
This is THE ISSUE where I agree with conservatives. End socialized wine & liquor sales. Open up the free market. Allow "distributors" to sell six packs.
Pennsylvania is becoming a great beer state, with some incredible craft breweries opening up all the time.
Don't be a hypocrite - if you're anti-socialism, then you have to be for this.
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If you liberals are so gung ho on producing ID to purchase guns and ammo, which is a constitutionally guaranteed right, then I want ID to be produced when people go to vote!

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

It's both or neither...
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Effington wrote:
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OK, so I'll admit I've been having a little trouble following this. But from what I can tell, a user named Skip to the Pee Pee is against it.
Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much of a compelling argument from either side. So let me take one....
The conservative crowd is decidedly anti government, anti union. Perhaps a simplification, but come on, that is a bit of a mantra at this point.
So why, oh why, would there be support for LITERALLY socialized alcohol sales in the state of Pennsylvania?
Well, first you have to remove the prudish, teetotaling portion of the state - those who want the guv'ment to keep their grubby hands off their guns and out of women's vaginas.
This is THE ISSUE where I agree with conservatives. End socialized wine & liquor sales. Open up the free market. Allow "distributors" to sell six packs.
Pennsylvania is becoming a great beer state, with some incredible craft breweries opening up all the time.
Don't be a hypocrite - if you're anti-socialism, then you have to be for this.
Not sure what you think my position is, but I am completely opposed to the existing state liquor store system.

As for beer, the existing case-oriented beer distributor system is a joke. They are free to stay in business, if anybody wants to patronize them, but beer should be sold in six-packs (or whatever quantity) in supermarkets, along with liquor and wine.
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FOX news is getting rid of their riff raff
Sarah Palin gets FIRED!!
NEW YORK (AP)— Fox News Channel is parting ways with former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, ending her three-year tenure as a contributor on the network.
While Palin's time at Fox was occasionally rocky, the network's news executive, Bill Shine, said Friday that "we have thoroughly enjoyed our association" with her.
"We wish her the best in her future endeavors," said Shine, Fox's executive vice president for programming.
She couldnt see Russia from the FOX studio..........
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Interesting wrote:
If you liberals are so gung ho on producing ID to purchase guns and ammo, which is a constitutionally guaranteed right, then I want ID to be produced when people go to vote!
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
It's both or neither...
and when your gun owner finds out he needs a birth certificate with a raised seal to get the id he needs--he will realize that he has to spend around $40 to get his birth certificate.
then the gun owner will realize the problem with voter ID in PA.
besides republicans wanted voter id to help elect romney.

http://www.politicspa.com/turzai-voter-id-law...

"Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”

The statement drew a loud round of applause from the audience. It also struck a nerve among critics, who called it an admission that they passed the bill to make it harder for Democrats to vote — and not to prevent voter fraud as the legislators claimed."
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Yes, President Obama, the Constitution applies to you, too.....but but but I know whats best for the US and my sheeples.

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Jan 26, 2013
 
We have plenty of time, not to worry.

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#46171
Jan 26, 2013
 
John Galt wrote:
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State liquor stores are the farthest thing possible from the free market.
But never fear, your unionized shelf-stocking and register skills may qualify you for a supermarket job. Those guys are union as well.
Plus, someone with the name "skip the pee pee" should not criticize anybody.
We disagree on the term "free" in free market. Example: I let you get $100 in groceries off my Access card in return for $25 cash you pay to me which I buy a fishing pole with. How did my did my $25 enter the legitimate free market, by magic? No, the free market value was in government.

My free refers to "not coerced". Al Capone sold illegal poisonous bathtub gin to willing buyers. I'd say that was the market at play legitimized by government sor not.

At the opposite end of the equation we vote in legislators who stymie things. But as long as we are free to reverse that vote IMO it's part of a "free market" as far as value for value transactions go. The marketplace of ideas dictates the free market of commerce. Always has.

PS Don't blame me, my parents named me.
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#46172
Jan 26, 2013
 
I will not stand for these Nerf guns anymore. I have turned this over to my loose cannon the great Joe Biden. There needs to be tougher laws. We must prevent these from getting into the hands of the mentally ill. If we don't do something soon they will end up in our fine schools with more future sheeple being killed. Stand with me my sheeple and show me your support.

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dbar wrote:
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and when your gun owner finds out he needs a birth certificate with a raised seal to get the id he needs--he will realize that he has to spend around $40 to get his birth certificate.
then the gun owner will realize the problem with voter ID in PA.
besides republicans wanted voter id to help elect romney.
Most gun owners already have driver's licenses or other acceptable forms of ID.

In fact, just about everybody except fugitives and illegal aliens already have acceptable IDs.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
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This is THE ISSUE where I agree with conservatives.
End socialized lottery sales.
Open education up to the free market, Allow "vouchers" and big tax credits for home schooling.
Pennsylvania is becoming a great right to work state, with some incredible craft breweries opening up all the time.
Bar public sector workers from collective bargaining on issues other than base wages, impose tough re-certification requirements, and bar employers from automatically deducting union dues from paychecks.
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Don't be a hypocrite - if you're anti-socialism, then you have to be for this.
All state lotteries, including the Pennsylvania lottery, would be considered consumer fraud if operated by anyone other than the government.

A total ripoff victimizing the poor and the ignorant.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
Effington wrote:
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OK, so I'll admit I've been having a little trouble following this. But from what I can tell, a user named Skip to the Pee Pee is against it.
Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much of a compelling argument from either side. So let me take one....
The conservative crowd is decidedly anti government, anti union. Perhaps a simplification, but come on, that is a bit of a mantra at this point.
So why, oh why, would there be support for LITERALLY socialized alcohol sales in the state of Pennsylvania?
Well, first you have to remove the prudish, teetotaling portion of the state - those who want the guv'ment to keep their grubby hands off their guns and out of women's vaginas.
This is THE ISSUE where I agree with conservatives. End socialized wine & liquor sales. Open up the free market. Allow "distributors" to sell six packs.
Pennsylvania is becoming a great beer state, with some incredible craft breweries opening up all the time.
Don't be a hypocrite - if you're anti-socialism, then you have to be for this.
I don't really care one way or another. As long as I can get my Nattie Light, it's all aces for me. I do wish it was more convenient though.

As to the free market we can either call all things completely free or completely limited because depending on how you look at it either case could be made.

I like that you brought up the idea of people being consistent in their positions. I can look at everything as a position of good. Then it just becomes a matter of the majority rules in many (but not all) cases. There's not evil and blessed, just preferences.

Don't have a stroke people.

I'm skip the pee pee and I endorse this message ;)
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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We disagree on the term "free" in free market. Example: I let you get $100 in groceries off my Access card in return for $25 cash you pay to me which I buy a fishing pole with. How did my did my $25 enter the legitimate free market, by magic? No, the free market value was in government.
That sounds like fraud, not the free market.

A good reason why welfare bums should be given groceries and not a debit card.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
John Galt wrote:
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All state lotteries, including the Pennsylvania lottery, would be considered consumer fraud if operated by anyone other than the government.
A total ripoff victimizing the poor and the ignorant.
Same with the stock market, the budget...
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John Galt wrote:
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That sounds like fraud, not the free market.
A good reason why welfare bums should be given groceries and not a debit card.
I don't agree people on welfare are necessarily bums but I agree they should get basic food stuffs as groceries, not a debit card. If they want to sell their pack of carrots on the street corner, I say go for it.

And while trading Access Card money for cash is fraud it's still a free market transaction, the subject we were discussing.
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John Galt wrote:
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Most gun owners already have driver's licenses or other acceptable forms of ID.
In fact, just about everybody except fugitives and illegal aliens already have acceptable IDs.
Hahaha. As a touché to the birthers we should make a law where all guns should come with a certificate showing it's date of manufacture (birth) which would have to be produced at the asking of any governmental official.

I'm saying there's any sense to it. Just that it'd be ironic ;)
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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Same with the stock market, the budget...
The lottery offers an absolute guarantee that you will lose (on average) 50 cents out of every dollar that you contribute.

The stock market (on average) will offer an 8% annual return just by investing in a low-cost index fund.

That's why investors become wealthy and lottery players remain poor.
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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I don't agree people on welfare are necessarily bums but I agree they should get basic food stuffs as groceries, not a debit card. If they want to sell their pack of carrots on the street corner, I say go for it.
And while trading Access Card money for cash is fraud it's still a free market transaction, the subject we were discussing.
Government-facilitated fraud is not the free market.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
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skip the pee pee
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yooooo hooooooooo
The overpaid liberal azzwipe from eerie GE, the guy who thinks we should all pay more taxes because he feels guilty.
Sssssssssssssst. I don't think we should pay more taxes, just those that cover what we want. Wouldn't that be something special?

If with this deficit you don't want to pay more taxes it's probably because you're lazy and don't want to pay the dues to live up to your potential.

BTW how much does being Topix most annoying poster pay? Also, you seem not to know guilt from pride to not want anything from anyone I'm not willing to return value for value for.

We get stuff from government. Get over it and quit being a welfare queen.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
John Galt wrote:
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Unlike other failed prosecutions, Corbett waited until he had an iron-clad case against Sandusky.
The NCAA is a monopoly in violation of every antitrust law on the books and the NCAA will never take the risk of going to court. Expect a settlement in which the penalties against Penn State are substantially reduced.
As Pennsylvania’s attorney general, he investigated Sandusky for nearly two years but failed to make an arrest. But then, as governor, he blamed the university’s leaders for not doing more. A passionate defender of children who had opened a sexual predators unit in his office, Corbett had aggressively pursued such prosecutions during his career. But this time, he assigned just one investigator to the Sandusky case, say lawyers with knowledge of the arrangement, although Corbett has denied this through his spokesman. At the time, he had 14 investigators looking into the activities of Pennsylvania House Speaker Bill DeWeese, a Democrat, who was accused of having staff members use state resources for his campaign. DeWeese was convicted last February of five counts of theft, conflict of interest and criminal conspiracy. State campaign records show he accepted contributions of nearly $650,000 from current and past board members of Second Mile [Sandusky's "Charity"] and their businesses.
As governor, why did Corbett personally approve a $3 million taxpayer-funded grant to Sandusky’s Second Mile charity, given his knowledge that Sandusky was under investigation for multiple child rapes?

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