Old Ironsides

West Mifflin, PA

#43164 Nov 21, 2012
bobby64 wrote:
My friend was hired to drive bus for a union bus and transport company when he was 26 but had a stroke that caused him to be disabled after roughly 20 years on the job, and he did not smoke, drink or do drugs. He is currently on ssd. X factor would call him a dead beat, wouldn't you x factor? You posts are cry baby yap a yap
Dont forget about all the disabled vets that went to fight useless unwinnable wars by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice... to make huge profits by putting our troops in Iraq with targets on their backs and no armored hum v's ( rush to war to get their money faster )....you know the guys that lost arms,legs,etc...guess they are leechers too. Surely we can make these people do something to earn their SSD check besides sitting around in bed or a wheelchair everyday.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#43165 Nov 21, 2012
Wow...your delusional...what other nonsense did you hear ?

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the steady hand of Barack Obama

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Obama's Real Unemployment Rate Is 14.7%, And A Recession's On The Way

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
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and some tough but necessary bailouts...

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“I said I believe in American workers, I believe in this American industry, and now the American auto industry has come roaring back,”

Obama bragged on the campaign trail.

Here’s the inconvenient story they won’t tell you:
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The claims that GM paid back its taxpayer-funded loans “in full”— a story peddled in campaign ads narrated by Hollywood actor Tom Hanks — were debunked by the Treasury Department’s TARP watchdog this summer.

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GM still owes nearly $30 billion of the $50 billion it received, and its lending arm still owes nearly $15 billion of the more than $17 billion it received.

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Bailout watchdog Mark Modica of the National Legal and Policy Center adds:

“In addition to U.S. taxpayers anteing up, Canada put in over $10 billion, and GM was relieved of about $28 billion of bondholder obligations as UAW claims were protected.

That’s an improvement of almost $90 billion to the balance sheet, and the company still lags the competition.”

While the Obama administration wraps the auto bailout in red, white, and blue, it’s foreign workers and overseas plants that are reaping redistributive rewards.

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GM has increased its manufacturing capacity in China by an estimated 55 percent after the bailout, according to industry watchers.

GM’s Dan Akerson crowed at the Beijing auto show earlier this year:

“One of our aims is to help grow a new generation of automotive engineers, designers, and leaders right here in China.”

The U.S. auto giant’s ventures with the Communist regime include Shanghai OnStar Telematics Co., Ltd.;

GM China Advanced Technical Center; FAW-GM Light Duty Commercial Vehicle Co., Ltd., in Harbin,

Heilongjiang; FAW-GM’s Changchun plant in Changchun, Jilin; FAW-GM Hongta Yunnan Automobile Manufacturing Co., Ltd., in Qujing,

Yunnan; and Shanghai Chengxin Used Car Operation and Management Co., Ltd.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/315901...

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Ahhhhh Sooooooo stupid pha-king Gringo
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#43166 Nov 21, 2012
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Your messiah can bailout all it wants.

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GM = Twinkies.....

Ho Ho Ho Hos

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Ahhhhh Sooooooo stupid pha-king Gringo
bobby64

Waxhaw, NC

#43167 Nov 21, 2012
Isn't it a tea bag racial hating crying shame that the only people who buy your bull shit is the most ignorant?

Since: Sep 12

Seattle, WA

#43168 Nov 21, 2012
A great reason to celebrate.

Jesse Jackson Jr. quits, ending a once promising political career.

Now he needs a trip to prison.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#43169 Nov 21, 2012
Just what’s going on?

GM has claimed that it is localities (mostly for police vehicles) and not federal purchases driving the increases, but aren’t localities struggling with their budgets?

Why do the nation’s police forces all of a sudden need new vehicles?

A little research uncovers that the Obama Administration is once again being generous with federal grants to localities to purchase new cars, with one of the primary end recipients of taxpayer money being GM.

Spreading the wealth.

The feds give the money to local governments so local governments can by Government Motors cars.

Hey did you know Government Motors still owes $42 billion on their bailout?

Any large increase in federal purchases of GM vehicles would be criticized, but giving taxpayer money to local police forces to buy the cars is defensible.

Hides the truth.

So, by hook or by crook, GM will be selling vehicles and proclaiming how successful they are as Obama continues to campaign on that same “success.”

With $50 billion of taxpayer money handed to them and such “success”, you have to wonder why GM’s share price has gone from a $33 IPO price down to the current $20 range.

More importantly, you have to wonder how America can continue to afford to throw money away to help give the perception that GM is an Obama success story.

I wonder how many people know what is really going on ….

And the Union Workers all cheer.

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Ahhhhh Sooooooo stupid pha-king Gringo
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#43170 Nov 21, 2012
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“I said I believe in American workers, I believe in this American industry, and now the American auto industry has come roaring back,”

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With $50 billion of taxpayer money handed to them and such “success”, you have to wonder why GM’s share price has gone from a $33 IPO price down to the current $20 range.

More importantly, you have to wonder how America can continue to afford to throw money away to help give the perception that GM is an Obama success story.

I wonder how many people know what is really going on ….

And the Union Workers all cheer.

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Ahhhhh Sooooooo stupid pha-king Gringo
Obama 2012

West Mifflin, PA

#43171 Nov 21, 2012
TaxNoMore wrote:
Wow...your delusional...what other nonsense did you hear ?
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the steady hand of Barack Obama
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Obama's Real Unemployment Rate Is 14.7%, And A Recession's On The Way
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
.
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and some tough but necessary bailouts...
.
.
“I said I believe in American workers, I believe in this American industry, and now the American auto industry has come roaring back,”
Obama bragged on the campaign trail.
Here’s the inconvenient story they won’t tell you:
.
.
.
.
.
The claims that GM paid back its taxpayer-funded loans “in full”— a story peddled in campaign ads narrated by Hollywood actor Tom Hanks — were debunked by the Treasury Department’s TARP watchdog this summer.
.
.
GM still owes nearly $30 billion of the $50 billion it received, and its lending arm still owes nearly $15 billion of the more than $17 billion it received.
.
.
Bailout watchdog Mark Modica of the National Legal and Policy Center adds:
“In addition to U.S. taxpayers anteing up, Canada put in over $10 billion, and GM was relieved of about $28 billion of bondholder obligations as UAW claims were protected.
That’s an improvement of almost $90 billion to the balance sheet, and the company still lags the competition.”
While the Obama administration wraps the auto bailout in red, white, and blue, it’s foreign workers and overseas plants that are reaping redistributive rewards.
.
.
GM has increased its manufacturing capacity in China by an estimated 55 percent after the bailout, according to industry watchers.
GM’s Dan Akerson crowed at the Beijing auto show earlier this year:
“One of our aims is to help grow a new generation of automotive engineers, designers, and leaders right here in China.”
The U.S. auto giant’s ventures with the Communist regime include Shanghai OnStar Telematics Co., Ltd.;
GM China Advanced Technical Center; FAW-GM Light Duty Commercial Vehicle Co., Ltd., in Harbin,
Heilongjiang; FAW-GM’s Changchun plant in Changchun, Jilin; FAW-GM Hongta Yunnan Automobile Manufacturing Co., Ltd., in Qujing,
Yunnan; and Shanghai Chengxin Used Car Operation and Management Co., Ltd.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/315901...
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Ahhhhh Sooooooo stupid pha-king Gringo
But don't forget, Obama is still recovering from Bush's destruction of the U.S. economy. If government intervention wasn't taken in 2008--it would have led to a bigger financial disaster than the Great Depression and would have affected a majority of the world.

Recent US Federal Budgets:
2013 -$3.8 trillion (sub.2012 by Obama)
2012 -$3.7 trillion (sub.2011 by Obama)
2011 -$3.8 trillion (sub.2010 by Obama)
2010 -$3.6 trillion (sub.2009 by Obama)
2009 -$3.1 trillion (sub.2008 by Bush)
2008 -$2.9 trillion (sub.2007 by Bush)
2007 -$2.8 trillion (sub.2006 by Bush)
2006 -$2.7 trillion (sub.2005 by Bush)
2005 -$2.4 trillion (sub.2004 by Bush)
2004 -$2.3 trillion (sub.2003 by Bush)
2003 -$2.2 trillion (sub.2002 by Bush)
2002 -$2.0 trillion (sub.2001 by Bush)
2001 -$1.9 trillion (sub.2000 by Clinton)

Go back to a healthy economy, 2001/Clinton--the Federal budget was $1.9 trillion. The Bush Tax Cuts would be 5.26% of that size budget. We can get back to those responsibly-sized budgets (relative to population/GDP growth.)

Interestingly, the CBO estimated the cost of Obamacare to be about the same as the Bush Tax Cuts, around $109 billion/year.

It's an easy choice: Bush Tax Cuts verse Obamacare--Obamacare is the intelligent choice.

The Bush strategery;

I will keep cutting taxes until the economy improves. LOL!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_fe...
Obama 2012

West Mifflin, PA

#43172 Nov 21, 2012
Bush tax cuts were extend due to Republicans holding unemployment benefits hostage as part of the deal.
bobby64

Waxhaw, NC

#43173 Nov 21, 2012
You lack honesty racial hating warrior tea bag. After you posting your fictitious facts america still put the black man in the white house, dumb ass. Who knew your mentally challenged just like Marisa? Whod a thunk it?
xfactor

Mckeesport, PA

#43176 Nov 21, 2012
Old Ironsides wrote:
<quoted text>Dont forget about all the disabled vets that went to fight useless unwinnable wars by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice... to make huge profits by putting our troops in Iraq with targets on their backs and no armored hum v's ( rush to war to get their money faster )....you know the guys that lost arms,legs,etc...guess they are leechers too. Surely we can make these people do something to earn their SSD check besides sitting around in bed or a wheelchair everyday.
I specified -'crazy check' people - hitting too close to home there Sparky?
xfactor

Mckeesport, PA

#43177 Nov 21, 2012
Gringo wrote:
<quoted text>
This resonse has nothing to do with what I asked you?
So, what are you advocating here 50 seperate monetary systems...one for each state huh..
That would be wonderful for interstate commerce just wonderul
No border disputes then at all huh?
Weak fed...bad...very bad for everyone
Bushy almost got away with blowing up the federal government by premeditaly spending us into oblivion..
He almost did us in...
Were not out of the woods yet but for the steady hand of Barack Obama and some tough but necessary bailouts...
He had to act decisively...how would you like to have been in his shoes...coming in to office after the big turd GW Bush left us?
Huh?
Answer that...
Obama fixed nothing, he made the situation worse.

I would have come in and declared of 'debt' nullified - took the monetary system out of the hands of the Federal Reserve and gave it back to Congress - had criminal trials and restored America to where it should be.

The issue is THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM, which neither DEM or GOP will address, instead they stay inside this Federal Reserve game which can never be won - ever!

You are stuck inside the paradigm I say BUSH is just as bad as Obama, and so was Clinton (NAFTA, GATT, China into the WTO) and Bush (Mr New World Order) Sr.

Bush operated under right cover, Obama operates under left cover - big deal - same agenda, same interest, puppets of the same masters.
xfactor

Mckeesport, PA

#43178 Nov 21, 2012
bobby64 wrote:
You lack honesty racial hating warrior tea bag. After you posting your fictitious facts america still put the black man in the white house, dumb ass. Who knew your mentally challenged just like Marisa? Whod a thunk it?
Obama lost every state that requires voter ID - coincidence?
bobby64

Waxhaw, NC

#43179 Nov 21, 2012
You sure dodge them tough questions, don't you x factor? Does my friend deserve his ssd according to you and your ayn rand philosophy? He worked his adult life
bobby64

Waxhaw, NC

#43180 Nov 21, 2012
Your not any one to determine if any one is physically and mentally able to work, your not a doctor. They make the decisions. You prove with every post that all you represent is a small minded right world to the extreme wing nut. Keep on ducking and dodging little man. Your life is a changing negatively you thinking, blame the black man any way you can. Keep proving your shallow
xfactor

Mckeesport, PA

#43181 Nov 21, 2012
bobby64 wrote:
Your not any one to determine if any one is physically and mentally able to work, your not a doctor. They make the decisions. You prove with every post that all you represent is a small minded right world to the extreme wing nut. Keep on ducking and dodging little man. Your life is a changing negatively you thinking, blame the black man any way you can. Keep proving your shallow
You no longer warrant a response.

Go cry race to someone else, you are an addled minded idiot.

Since: Sep 12

Seattle, WA

#43182 Nov 21, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
It's an easy choice: Bush Tax Cuts verse Obamacare--Obamacare is the intelligent choice.
“President Obama has won re-election, but his healthcare law is still driving up costs and making it harder for small businesses to hire workers.

“The president’s health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our national debt already exceeds the size of our country’s entire economy. We can’t afford it, and we can’t afford to leave it intact.”

“Congress has a constitutional responsibility to conduct thorough oversight of the executive branch, and congressional oversight will play a critical role in repealing Obamacare going forward,” he writes.

With the Supreme Court mostly upholding Obamacare and the president winning re-election, that oversight and state actions are the only avenues left for repeal.

House committees can go after various elements of Obamacare. State governments can do their part by resisting government-run insurance exchanges.

Since: Sep 12

Seattle, WA

#43183 Nov 21, 2012
bobby64 wrote:
Your not any one to determine if any one is physically and mentally able to work, your not a doctor. They make the decisions. You prove with every post that all you represent is a small minded right world to the extreme wing nut. Keep on ducking and dodging little man. Your life is a changing negatively you thinking, blame the black man any way you can. Keep proving your shallow
You sure dodge them tough questions, don't you bobby64?

Since: Sep 12

Seattle, WA

#43184 Nov 21, 2012
bobby64 wrote:
Your not any one to determine if any one is physically and mentally able to work, your not a doctor. They make the decisions. You prove with every post that all you represent is a small minded right world to the extreme wing nut. Keep on ducking and dodging little man. Your life is a changing negatively you thinking, blame the black man any way you can. Keep proving your shallow
The black racist posts another meaningless post.

Since: Sep 12

Seattle, WA

#43185 Nov 21, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
Bush tax cuts were extend due to Republicans holding unemployment benefits hostage as part of the deal.


Muffins posts another's opinion because he has no opinion of his own. How pathetic can you get?

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