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Serendipity wrote:
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According to the article, some started to cross the lines in spite of union threats to be fined for doing so. But, it wasn't enough to keep the company afloat.
So yeah, they showed 'em, now the owners still have their retirement and the workers, instead of an 8% cut in pay and bennies, now get to have a 100% cut in pay and bennies. And, you know, there's just lots and lots of jobs out there to just go and grab.
Should've taken the cut in pay, better than no job at all....
this holds true for teachers also? offer lower pay to work?
Fred M

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The free market has spoken; not sure why the employees are taking the blame. Seems like Hostess couldn't stay competitive and the cost of labor is only a piece of the puzzle. I thought you people who read the WSJ understood economics? Maybe not. By the way, the new CEO is a hatchet man so no surprise this is where this ended up. There is now a convenient scapegoat that all you righties like to blame everything on for Hostess closing. Yes it's those disgusting people who want a living wage, health care, safe workplaces, vacations, etc. Man, those little people want everything!
Serendipity

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Here's the thing, I know there are many folks out there today, who would love to have that job at that "cut rate" salary. so, greedy or not, if the owners can't sustain the profitability of the company, they cannot remain in business.

Sure, sales are down, more competition, rising costs.Sometimes companies must cut back, But, the way I see it in this case, the union are the ones who are refusing to budge, and therefore, over 18,000 workers are now unemployed.
Lay the blame where you will, but, these are tough economic times, sometimes you gotta compromise.
bobby64

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#42597
Nov 16, 2012
 
The sky is falling tea bags so get ready dumb asses.
bobby64

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Nov 16, 2012
 
Compromise is a dirty word. You must not of got the tea bag demands yet,huh? Go figure. You will soon catch up
The Minister of Truth

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Serendipity wrote:
Here's the thing, I know there are many folks out there today, who would love to have that job at that "cut rate" salary. so, greedy or not, if the owners can't sustain the profitability of the company, they cannot remain in business.
Sure, sales are down, more competition, rising costs.Sometimes companies must cut back, But, the way I see it in this case, the union are the ones who are refusing to budge, and therefore, over 18,000 workers are now unemployed.
Lay the blame where you will, but, these are tough economic times, sometimes you gotta compromise.
Yes, and Papa John could compromise by not giving away a million free pizzas and instead do the right thing and put the cost of that giveaway towards treating his employees like human beings - a.k.a. provide healthcare. Instead he'd rather use Obamacare as a boogeyman excuse to allow him to continue being a cheapskate towards the people that are the backbone of his fortune.

He said in the past Obamacare would force him to increase the price of his shitty pizzas by 14 cents. WOW that is just too expensive! My $12 shitty pizza now costs $12.14! The horror! I would definitely buy a shitty pizza for $12, but add 14 cents to that and you've crossed the line, buddy!
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Dan the Man wrote:
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Maybe not...
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Hostess strike continues despite threat of liquidation
Some of the workers said bring on liquidation. They hope that would mean another company may buy some of the iconic Hostess brands and the plant in Biddeford would be continue to operate but under a different owner.
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Hostess is to big to fail.

It's time your gay Kenyan stepped in and saved the Twinkies.
Archie Bunker

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Edith! There was no twinkies in my lunch box today! Those commie pinkos are at it again!
TaxNoMore

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bobby64 wrote:
Compromise is a dirty word. You must not of got the tea bag demands yet,huh? Go figure. You will soon catch up
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some of those Ho-Hos make some cash

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Search 101 Hostess Brands Salaries

http://www.careerbliss.com/salary/hostess-bra...

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Hostess is to big to fail.

No more Snowballs?

OooBaaaaaaaaaaaaMaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa!!!!

Send in the commie HOLDER, force Hostess to pay.
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The Minister of Truth wrote:
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Yes, and Papa John could compromise by not giving away a million free pizzas and instead do the right thing and put the cost of that giveaway towards treating his employees like human beings - a.k.a. provide healthcare. Instead he'd rather use Obamacare as a boogeyman excuse to allow him to continue being a cheapskate towards the people that are the backbone of his fortune.
He said in the past Obamacare would force him to increase the price of his shitty pizzas by 14 cents. WOW that is just too expensive! My $12 shitty pizza now costs $12.14! The horror! I would definitely buy a shitty pizza for $12, but add 14 cents to that and you've crossed the line, buddy!
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President Obama took office in the first quarter of 2009, when median household income was $54,797.63.

As of the last quarter of 2011, median household income was $52,377.21.

This was the interval Mr. Zandi suggested using to check Mr. Romneyís statement, and it shows an income drop of $2,420.42.

Thatís not $3,000, of course, but itís still pretty bad.

One could also reasonably argue that it might be more appropriate to use the quarter before Mr. Obama took office as the baseline, rather than the quarter in which he was sworn in.

In the fourth quarter of 2008, median household income was about $55,380.17.

Starting from that quarter gives us a decline of $3,002.96, almost exactly the number Mr. Romney cited.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/ ...

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treating his employees like human beings - a.k.a. provide healthcare.
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Fred M wrote:
The free market has spoken; not sure why the employees are taking the blame. Seems like Hostess couldn't stay competitive and the cost of labor is only a piece of the puzzle. I thought you people who read the WSJ understood economics? Maybe not. By the way, the new CEO is a hatchet man so no surprise this is where this ended up. There is now a convenient scapegoat that all you righties like to blame everything on for Hostess closing. Yes it's those disgusting people who want a living wage, health care, safe workplaces, vacations, etc. Man, those little people want everything!
CHEERS!!!!!!
TaxNoMore

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Dan the Man wrote:
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Hostess strike continues despite threat of liquidation

Some of the workers said bring on liquidation.

They hope that would mean another company may buy some of the iconic Hostess brands and the plant in Biddeford would be continue to operate but under a different owner.

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bring on liquidation

They hope that would mean another company may buy some of the iconic
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General Motors / Chrysler brands
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and the plant in Detroit would continue to operate but under a different owner.

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Is that how it works dannyboy?

Since: Sep 12

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Dan the Man wrote:
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This is the kind of dumbass nonsense you post when you live in the failed alternate rightwing reality created by the rightwing echo-chamber.
Educate your ignorant ass on what the ACA actually does before you say stupid shit like this.
Ever since LBJ declared a war on poverty the parasites in the U.S. have been consuming the host. Well, parasites, the host is finally fighting back. You made your mistake when you chose the side of the socialist instead of the capitalist. Your mistake was the failure to recognize the fact that socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money.

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Dan the Man wrote:
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Google is your friend. Look it up, moron.
LMAO...Dan the Mans new response when he cannot back up his BS statements. I kinda liked his old response....GET BENT!

Ever since LBJ declared a war on poverty the parasites in the U.S. have been consuming the host. Well, parasites, the host is finally fighting back. You made your mistake when you chose the side of the socialist instead of the capitalist. Your mistake was the failure to recognize the fact that socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money.

Obama's well is going dry. I bet he will be forced to tax those making under $250,000.
TaxNoMore

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Route Sales Representative Salaries at Hostess Brands

The guy that drives dat truck around to all da stops?

38K to 78K

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Hostess is to big to fail.

Send in the commie HOLDER, force Hostess to pay.

OooBaaaaaaaaaaaaMaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa!!!!

Save da twinkies!!!!!!!
Always Right

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SAVE THE HO-HOs. Bail out Hostess.
bobby64

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How's that babble working out for you racist warrior tea bag? Thrust thrust cha cha kaboom. You feel it now. All you got is this internet so vent and please show anger
TaxNoMore

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Dan the Man

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Educate your ignorant ass on what the ACA actually does before you say stupid shit like this.

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The penalty/tax will be phased in from 2014 to 2016.

The minimum penalty/tax in 2016 will be $695 per person and up to 3-times that per family.

After 2016, these amounts will increase at the rate of inflation.

The minimum penalty/tax per person will start at $95 in 2014 (and then increase through 2016)

No family will ever pay more than 3X the per-person penalty, regardless of how many people are in the family.

The $695 per-person penalty is only for those who make between $9,500 and ~$37,000 per year.

If you make less than ~$9.500, you're exempt. If you make more than ~$37,000, your penalty is calculated by the following formula...
The penalty is 2.5% of any household income above the level at which you are required to file a tax return. That level is currently $9,500 per person and $19,000 per couple. The penalty on any income above that is 2.5%. So the penalty can get expensive quickly if you make a lot of money.
However, the penalty can never be more than the cost of a "Bronze" heath insurance plan purchased through one of the state "exchanges" that will be created as part of Obamacare. The CBO estimates that these policies will cost $4,500-$5,000 per person and $12,000-$12,500 per family in 2016, with the costs rising thereafter.

So, basically, you're looking at penalties of approximately the following at the following income levels:

Less than $9,500 income =$0

$9,500 -$37,000 income =$695

$50,000 income =$1,000

$75,000 income =$1,600
$100,000 income =$2,250
$125,000 income =$2,900
$150,000 income =$3,500
$175,000 income =$4,100
$200,000 income =$4,700
Over $200,000 = The cost of a "bronze" health-insurance plan
The IRS will collect the penalty-tax, a fact that will no doubt further enrage those who hate Obamacare.

But here's some more good news for those folks:

The IRS will not have the power to charge you criminally or seize your assets if you refuse to pay.

The IRS will only have the ability to sue you. And the most the IRS can collect from you if it wins the suit is 2X the amount you owe.

So if you want to thumb your nose at the penalty-tax, the IRS won't be able to do as much to you as they could if you refused to pay, say, income tax.

By the way, the following folks will be exempt from the penalty-tax:

Those who make less than $9,500

Employees whose employers only offer plans that cost more than 8% of the employee's income

Those with "hardships"

Members of Indian tribes

Members of certain religions that don't pay Social Security tax, such as Amish, Hutterites, or Mennonites

And, of course, Obamacare isn't free.

So, whether you pay the penalty or not, you're going to have to pay a lot of other taxes to pay for it.

Here they are >

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-is-th...

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Keep RUNNING from the FACTS, loser!!!!!

They keep KICKING your Azz and you keep RUNNING!!!

It's HILARIOUS to watch!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!
TaxNoMore

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Dan the Man

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Educate your ignorant ass on what the ACA actually does before you say stupid shit like this.

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A 40% tax on "Cadillac Health Care Plans" starting in 2018.

Those whose employers pay for all or most of comprehensive healthcare plans (costing $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for families) will have to pay a 40% tax on the amount their employer pays.

The 2018 start date is said to have been a gift to unions, which often have comprehensive plans.( ATR.org )

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-n...

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Keep RUNNING from the FACTS, loser!!!!!

They keep KICKING your Azz and you keep RUNNING!!!

It's HILARIOUS to watch!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!
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It is racist tea bag dumb ass, it really is

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