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Marcellus

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#282
Sep 22, 2009
 
Mr Jefferson wrote:
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Please conduct you dialogue in such a manner as to reflect positively on The University.
Please type 'you' dialogue in such a manner as to reflect positively on the university as well! LOL!
Marcellus

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Sep 22, 2009
 
Hampton Handyman wrote:
Sorry those things are the suggestions I made in post 249 that you seem to be ralling against.
You have to look at the problems at hand and try to correct them. If you are tring to slove a problem you can't always back up to before the problem existed and start over. History doesn't have a rewind button.
It is not the place of government to bail out or cap free trade and I believe that they should be bound by the Constitution. But in order to keep this country growing the government should help to grow the free market in trying times. Be it lowing taxes on businesses, softening enviromental laws to allow for cheaper power generation, or helping the unemployeed to survive while they improve their skills so that the country can provide a highly skilled and atractive work force. I also am not opposed to tariffs on imported goods so that we can compete with cheaper labor in less developed counties.
"....the government should help to grow the free market in trying times." This is a perfect example that you just don't get it! That statement is pure ignorance! Unless you are talking about the government buying a lot of products they have no business "helping the free market" in any way, because short of participation in it as a consumer, all they intend to do is place artificial restrictions on it. Thus handicapping it and doing nothing to help it at all. You are still so incorrectly stuck on the fact that "THE GOVERNMENT" is the answer, you need to wake up and realize that the government is the PROBLEM!!!
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Mr Jefferson wrote:
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Please conduct you dialogue in such a manner as to reflect positively on The University.
What did I say that was so offensive?
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What did I say that was so offensive?
Off topic diarrhea!

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Marcellus wrote:
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"....the government should help to grow the free market in trying times." This is a perfect example that you just don't get it! That statement is pure ignorance! Unless you are talking about the government buying a lot of products they have no business "helping the free market" in any way, because short of participation in it as a consumer, all they intend to do is place artificial restrictions on it. Thus handicapping it and doing nothing to help it at all. You are still so incorrectly stuck on the fact that "THE GOVERNMENT" is the answer, you need to wake up and realize that the government is the PROBLEM!!!
Once again you are so short sighted that you refuse to admit that we agree on the issues and the wanted out come we just looking at it from two different view points.
What do you have against the government changing laws, lowering taxes, and investing in their work force to attract global business back from the likes of Mexico and Asia?
All you have done is tell me how wrong I am even when I agree with you.
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Once again you are so short sighted that you refuse to admit that we agree on the issues and the wanted out come we just looking at it from two different view points.
What do you have against the government changing laws, lowering taxes, and investing in their work force to attract global business back from the likes of Mexico and Asia?
All you have done is tell me how wrong I am even when I agree with you.
Without States taking back rights from the Federal government and shaking down in a major way the power that has been taken from the people by the federal government, NOTHING the federal government does will be in the best interest of the people, but as it has now for some time, will be in the best interest of maintaining power over the people. The federal government isn't going to voluntarily give up power that it worked so hard to steal away, are you that gullible?
Major government reform as I mentioned earlier is the only way to regain control over an out of control government in Washington. I'm sure you remember my "one answer" with 6 parts....
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Hampton Handyman wrote:
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Once again you are so short sighted that you refuse to admit that we agree on the issues and the wanted out come we just looking at it from two different view points.
What do you have against the government changing laws, lowering taxes, and investing in their work force to attract global business back from the likes of Mexico and Asia?
All you have done is tell me how wrong I am even when I agree with you.
You keep looking to the very source of the problem to fix the problem. Seems rather ignorant and counterproductive. The epitome of short sighted!
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Hampton Handyman wrote:
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Once again you are so short sighted that you refuse to admit that we agree on the issues and the wanted out come we just looking at it from two different view points.
What do you have against the government changing laws, lowering taxes, and investing in their work force to attract global business back from the likes of Mexico and Asia?
All you have done is tell me how wrong I am even when I agree with you.
A primary point of contention seems to be in the understanding of the role of the federal government. You seem to think that the Feds ought to act because they can while others seem to believe that the feds ought not act because of restrictions specifically put in place by the US Constitution.

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Marcellus wrote:
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Without States taking back rights from the Federal government and shaking down in a major way the power that has been taken from the people by the federal government, NOTHING the federal government does will be in the best interest of the people, but as it has now for some time, will be in the best interest of maintaining power over the people. The federal government isn't going to voluntarily give up power that it worked so hard to steal away, are you that gullible?
Major government reform as I mentioned earlier is the only way to regain control over an out of control government in Washington. I'm sure you remember my "one answer" with 6 parts....
That is the problem with you libertarians. You are so set on being radically conservitive that when someone agrees with you you tell them they are wrong.
You win I can't continue a discussion with someone who argues against their own view point once it starts to make sense.
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That is the problem with you libertarians. You are so set on being radically conservitive that when someone agrees with you you tell them they are wrong.
You win I can't continue a discussion with someone who argues against their own view point once it starts to make sense.
First of all I'm no libertarian! And second, I don't agree with you or the idea of compromising on prinicples! Lastly, the constitution still matters to me, and I feel it should be relevant in the federal governments can and can't do guide!
I will accept your concession however, you never really had a chance anyway with your unfounded, and ungrounded kumbaya politics!
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Sep 30, 2009
 
To Everyone here,
I agree very strongly with the libertarian point
of view. The only role of government is to interve
-ne as a judge when things get out of hand. Since,
things have gotten out of hand it's time for the
gov. to come in to ameliorate the problems. Thanks
10th cav. spectre having a hot time in Madtown!!
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10th cavalary spectre wrote:
To Everyone here,
I agree very strongly with the libertarian point
of view. The only role of government is to interve
-ne as a judge when things get out of hand. Since,
things have gotten out of hand it's time for the
gov. to come in to ameliorate the problems. Thanks
10th cav. spectre having a hot time in Madtown!!
Government is the problem you dolt! Do you turn the prison over to the inmates and expect things to get better? Unbelievable how ignorant people are.........(yes, and by people I meant YOU!)
10th cavalary spectre

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Dear Marcellus:
The only "ignorant" one here is you. It's obvious
you know nothing about civic process. The role of
gov. is to protect the liberties of all it's citiz
-ens. To make sure one side doesn't overstep the
boundary of the other. When that occurs then
that's when gov. comes in and corrects the dispute
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Next, as a side note if you look at our over bloated prison system, the majority of people
incarcerated simply shouldn't be there. But, that
-'s another topic to be discussed another time. In
the future Mr. Marcellus, take an entry level social studies course so you can learn the basics
about our system. Then, you won't sound totally
illiterate. Thanks,
10th cav. spectre from Madtown on Wed. Eve!!
Marcellus
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10th cavalary spectre wrote:
Dear Marcellus:
The only "ignorant" one here is you. It's obvious
you know nothing about civic process. The role of
gov. is to protect the liberties of all it's citiz
-ens. To make sure one side doesn't overstep the
boundary of the other. When that occurs then
that's when gov. comes in and corrects the dispute
.
Next, as a side note if you look at our over bloated prison system, the majority of people
incarcerated simply shouldn't be there. But, that
-'s another topic to be discussed another time. In
the future Mr. Marcellus, take an entry level social studies course so you can learn the basics
about our system. Then, you won't sound totally
illiterate. Thanks,
10th cav. spectre from Madtown on Wed. Eve!!
My point exactly dumas! It's the government that has overstepped it's bounds with respect to the citizenry! So do you really think the government is going to self correct and step back willingly and without correction from the citizenry?
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10th cavalary spectre wrote:
To Everyone here,
I agree very strongly with the libertarian point
of view. The only role of government is to interve
-ne as a judge when things get out of hand. Since,
things have gotten out of hand it's time for the
gov. to come in to ameliorate the problems. Thanks
10th cav. spectre having a hot time in Madtown!!
You claim libertarian sympathy yet advocate for unlimited scope of federal power. I find the two positions to be mutually exclusive.(Perhaps the "Unconstitutional" aspects of Obama's proposals would be constitutional if proposed at the state level.) What do you not understand about the tenth amendment?
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