King released 7yrs after killing father

Alex and Derek King, brothers aged 12 and 13, were convicted in 2002 of murdering their father. Full Story
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Hipster09

San Diego, CA

#1 Mar 9, 2009
I remember watching the footage on this case back in 2002. The boys were very young at the time and it was very bizarre to see such young and innocent looking children on trial.
alawyer

Washington, DC

#2 Mar 9, 2009
The boys were under the direct influence of a pedophile and manipulated by that person into committing a crime that they would not have otherwise committed. The case was mishandled from the get-go, and what I remember best about that monster Rimmer is that he questioned a 12 year old boy on the stand about his "love letters" to the pedophile, written when the child was 11, and implied that the boy committed the crime because of his love for the pedophile - DHUH. The reporter here missed the whole point - this was a juvenile case from start to finish and should never have been brought in adult court. Rimmer was a bungler who went after the little boys instead of properly bargaining with them to get the full level of evidence against the predator and ensuring that the monster never saw the light of day. Children have been used in crimes for 1000's of years by manipulators. Adolph Hitler knew very well how to get little boys to murder. The difference is that prosecutors like Rimmer now use these children to their own advantage as well. I am glad that the boys are free. I hope that they can overcome the notorious lable pinned on them and escape the fate of Lionel Tate.
Susan

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#3 Mar 9, 2009
I don't agree with you at all. At 12 and 13 years old, you know full well that you just donít kill anybody-let alone you own parents. I am NOT happy that these two monsters are out walking the streets-there is just NO way they will ever "overcome" the fact that they have killed their own parent. This is something thatís going to hunt them forever, and I think itís just a matter of time before they do it again. What if they ever have children? They would be afraid to go to bed in fear that their own son would kill them while theyíre sleeping.

There is no way to rehabilitate a coldblooded killer!!!!
originalformula

Omaha, NE

#4 Mar 9, 2009
SOOO WRONG Susan...young childeren are often manipulated into doing things. I wish them well and am confident that they will listen to the right influences this time. AND they will never foget or be done paying for the mistake this pervert talked them into. Prove yourself to the world Alex and Derek...I know you can do right!
Desiree

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Mar 9, 2009
OMG! So the "accessory" gets more jail time than the murderers?! I am NOT having kids and bringing them up in this sick, sick world. It's such a shame.
Joe in AZ

Waltham, MA

#6 Mar 9, 2009
I agree with Susan, These "kids" should rot in prison for the rest of their lives. Especially considering the in-house prison training they've received while incarcerated. The LAST thing I want as a parent is my daughter dating a 20 year old convicted murder and ex-convict. I highly doubt these killers are going to divulge that information to anyone that doesn't recognize them.
Carl

Ottawa, Canada

#7 Mar 9, 2009
Well, I guess now is like a trend to kill your parents at an early age. The sad thing is that this little killers get away with it just because they are kids! After all today's kids have no rules, morals or manners so I guess they can do whatever they want, even committ murder.
HUMAN BEING

United States

#8 Mar 9, 2009
Also proof that even professors can be as dumb as "pure" faced murders.
Kat

Oceanside, CA

#9 Mar 9, 2009
I believe that these boys should stay in prison for a much long period of time. these kids were old enough to know better you know right from wrong by that age and how did they ever end up with this man that got them to beat there father and burn their home down. These boy s will never be ok, these kind of people are doomed to either do something like that again or kill themselves that is the cold truth and it is sad that these criminals kill and rape get a few years in jail and they are let go to repeat the same thing over and over again, how many times has this proven to be true? Just today I read an artical that a man who had been in jail previously for murder and assault was released from prison and got married then killed his wife, her sister, her 2 kids,and anthoer child that is in the hospital now, these rules need to be change if the crime has been done the same crime wil be done when they are released they need to remain in jail or the death penalty! Kill them if we run out of room stike them all together and they will kill eachother off one by onem why should they get to live there lives in peace. I wish that these boys could be reformed but the truth is they have been so traumatized that some else will happen if not to other then themselves.
Aelisha

Lake Village, AR

#10 Mar 9, 2009
I think these children (and that's what they were) made a very horrible mistake. If you have ever been afraid of someone else (father, mother, monster) you will do whatever they say to spare yourself. I was molested when I was 4 and was so afraid of this man that I didn't tell anyone until I was 19 and he was dead. If you have never been in a situation where you were either brain washed or very afraid you have no idea what it's like. I just hope that these 2 young men can lead at least a semi normal life, but the truth is because of blood thirsty media they will probably take their own lives from the stress. We need to leave them alone and let them live their own lives. They have paid for their crime and will continue to pay every day. They have to live with what was done.
Missouri

Warsaw, MO

#11 Mar 9, 2009
They'll end up back in prison. I just hope it isn't for killing or injuring someone else.
lynne

Tulsa, OK

#12 Mar 9, 2009
I agree with Aelisha. After putting up with abuse from our own father, you have no idea what a child can have running through thier minds. Noone was ever told by us as we were young and scared. He ended up suffering a slow death due to cancer. I was 13 when he died and my sister 11. I was glad he was gone. Had he been alive, who knows what I might have wanted to do to him. I know he would not have been in my familys' life. I know this if off the subject a bit, but if you are going through stuff
as a child, your thought pattern is that of a child
and I believe these boys were used just the same by that man. These boys may never know normal. Think aabout it.
Penny

Houston, TX

#13 Mar 9, 2009
This is one of the most mind boggling stories ever. For all that we know how child molesters work - how they mess with kid's minds, groom them and become the "trusted" adult in their lives - we still put two little boys in prison. You cannot omit the huge role this Chavis guy had in their lives. These were two impoverished boys with very unstable family lives. This man ingratiates himself into their lives giving them things and becoming THE male role model in their eyes. They were 12 and 13! Just babies! When he convinced them that their dad was bad and that he was an obstacle to a better life, they believed him. You have no comprehension what these two boys must have endured - the psychological, sexual, and emotional abuse. Yes. What they did was wrong, but the man responsible for this is Chavis. These two boys need to be allowed to be free and make something of their lives. They are wounded survivors. Let them be.
Chantel

Harlan, IA

#14 Mar 9, 2009
Carl wrote:
Well, I guess now is like a trend to kill your parents at an early age. The sad thing is that this little killers get away with it just because they are kids! After all today's kids have no rules, morals or manners so I guess they can do whatever they want, even committ murder.
I happen to have 3 kids that have rules, morals AND manners. Not all kids are raised wrong!!
KPJ

Bellevue, WA

#15 Mar 9, 2009
You get more time for killing a dog.....Wake up America and put these murdering kids behind bars for real.....7 years for beating your father with a baseball bat....give me a break.
IEKOOP

Henderson, NV

#16 Mar 9, 2009
I understand that these boys were probably manipulated in some way by Ricky Chavis, however, you do know right from wrong, especially when it comes to murder at 12 and 13 yrs. old. I agree, that as the adult, Chavis should be charged and probably with more time than the boys, however I do not think that 7 years is enough time for these boys to kill their father and walk away. Justice was not served for this man.
IEKOOP

Henderson, NV

#17 Mar 9, 2009
Penny wrote:
This is one of the most mind boggling stories ever. For all that we know how child molesters work - how they mess with kid's minds, groom them and become the "trusted" adult in their lives - we still put two little boys in prison. You cannot omit the huge role this Chavis guy had in their lives. These were two impoverished boys with very unstable family lives. This man ingratiates himself into their lives giving them things and becoming THE male role model in their eyes. They were 12 and 13! Just babies! When he convinced them that their dad was bad and that he was an obstacle to a better life, they believed him. You have no comprehension what these two boys must have endured - the psychological, sexual, and emotional abuse. Yes. What they did was wrong, but the man responsible for this is Chavis. These two boys need to be allowed to be free and make something of their lives. They are wounded survivors. Let them be.
They may have been swayed and convinced somewhat by Chavis, however I knew at 13 that murder was wrong! They may have been kids, but you don't know all the information that Chavis may have done to them. Don't assume that they were innocent little kids that didn't know any better. They could have hatched the hole plan to frame Chavis. They should have gotten more time than they did. You shouldn't be able to kill someone and spend only 7 years in jail, especially when you premeditate it.

Since: Jan 09

Chattanooga, TN

#18 Mar 9, 2009
Chavis DID get sentenced, and it was steep enough, I think, since he didn't actually commit the murder himself. Fair enough.
But I hope these boys can make some kind of good life for themselves. I cannot imagine - I have a 12-year-old son and I cannot imagine anyone that age committing such a heinous crime. I wonder if they're getting any kind of psychological help in dealing with this. They're gonna need it.
Hopefully, the media and public will allow them to have a fighting chance at normalcy, especially given their ages at the time the crime was committed.
I wish them both well.
Lindsay

San Antonio, TX

#19 Mar 10, 2009
2 boys commit murder get 7 years one man hides them gets 35?!?! Rape of justice!
So Sad

United States

#20 Mar 10, 2009
KPJ wrote:
You get more time for killing a dog.....Wake up America and put these murdering kids behind bars for real.....7 years for beating your father with a baseball bat....give me a break.
I wish people would get 7 years for killing a dog

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