|
Raymond France
|
Daniel wrote: Here are a few questions I have.
1. If they are testing him for doping, why are they doing it via urine samples?
2. He has a thirod problem, could that be the outside source of his high testosterone?
3. Why would an anti-doping agency be doing the testing? Whatever problems Landis may have and I leave it to the experts on doping. I am quite sure that the body does not produce SYNTHETIC testosterone and it's masking agents
|
|
Insider
|
Raymond France wrote: <quoted text>
Whatever problems Landis may have and I leave it to the experts on doping. I am quite sure that the body does not produce SYNTHETIC testosterone and it's masking agents Would a false leg not do it?:-)
|
|
Will
|
Insider wrote: <quoted text>
Would a false leg not do it?:-) ...a false leg would'nt do it, but a false "kit" would...
|
|
Harry in Texas
|
Well said Ralph.
The great comeback stage had me jumping up and down and cheering. I still am holding a slim hope that the hearings & apeal may prove Floyd innocent.
|
|
Daniel
|
Experts eh? If they got a name I will believe it, if they do not give a name, then I am not buying it. Does Landis have a false leg? I would not trust so called "experts" unless they give their names. If it is doping you would be testing blood and not urine.
|
|
Wayne
|
Ralph UK wrote: I really want to believe Floyd but it's hard. Like most other people who watched his stage win I feel very sad and angry, not so much at Floyd yet as I still want to hold on to the hope that he's innocent (slim chance I know)I feel sad and angry that our enjoyment of hte race has been taken away and once again, instead of talking about heroes, we are talking about cheats. I know the feeling. We better all get used to it, though, as the drug testing is going to be 365 days per year now. Seems to me that when the TdF is over the testing should be over. ---Salem Oregon---
|
|
Jon Chapman
|
Aim. I am not a Mormon or a redneck. And yes I do support Floyd Landis. I do not consider the man a shrub, nor do I consider European cycling trustworthy. Also, perhaps you should refrain from making bigoted, inconsiderate comments in the future.
|
|
nicole
|
on that note, does anyone think that maybe it has to do w/ the cloud that still hangs over lance? it seems "they just can't get their heads around it" it makes you wonder huh?
|
|
|
|
Brian - Scotland
|
Isn't it ironic that this guy had 8 clean tests and on the one day that he dominated the French in one stage that his sample is returned with a positive result. I say test these samples independently and outside of France if you really want a test with integrity. These people have been after American Lance Armstrong for years. And I think that Lance has doped. Just very ironic that 8 samples passed for Landis, including one the day before and after these supposed positive test.
|
|
Just An Observer
|
Just as I had suspected!
|
|
dirty french
Shaw A F B, SC
|
the dirty french are just pissed because they can't win their own race...it has to piss them off that the americans have domimated the tdf...i think he was set up...
|
|
Edric Cho
|
Joe C wrote: Floyd Landis has insulted and shamed America forever. He has marred the name of the entire U.S.A. cycling team. I am ashamed of you Floyd. Whether they helped you or not holds no weight here, you have disgraced the cycling community, yourself, your family and America. Thank you for cheating, I hope you never hold the title of role model ever again. You are just another name in the long line of steroid driven athletes from America. You are an ignorant German! Have you forgotten the East Germans in the 70s that started it all. They were repugnant athletes and the lowest of the low. We are talking about athletes from a country that never medaled and all of a sudden they were winning golds due to steroid use. I'm not condoning Mr. Landis' use of performancing enhancing drugs however a statement such as yours makes me puke. Go educate yourself!
|
|
Michael
|
Will wrote: <quoted text>
The thing that makes your sabotage theory a non-starter is that it's so neeedlessly convoluted--why go to all the trouble of sabotaging a racer who'd bonked out at stage 16 & therefore was already behind in the competition? why not just give Landis something to disable him from the next day's race, like laxative, or sleeping powder or strychnine? why give him something that might ENHANCE his performance rather than DEGRADE it? how could you reasonably predict that Landis would come back to win the race & the overall Tour? how could you reasonably predict that the other racers wouldn't be similarly-enhanced and, without the handicap of an arthritic hip joint, outperform Landis? I'll patiently await your answers to these questions, George. The question is what happened to Landis's sample after stage 17. Could the sample have been sabotaged after the stage and on the way to the lab? The fact is that French officials had to have known that Landis was the favorite after stage 15th. So they had time to prepare the sabotage. After stage 16, they thought they did not have to use the nuclear option. Then Landis pulled off an incredible return. Back to the nuclear option. A little squirt of testosterone into Landis Urine sample. However, the main problem with this theory is that such an act of sabotage would sabotage the whole Tour De France. But then again the French did build the Maignot line.
|
|
Wayne
|
Michael wrote: <quoted text>
A little squirt of testosterone into Landis Urine sample.???
However, the main problem with this theory is that such an act of sabotage would sabotage the whole Tour De France. But then again the French did build the Maignot line. Might be worth wrecking one TdF to torpedo another American who might keep winning for years. ( This fiasco sounds more like the Dreyfus Affair to me.) ---Salem Oregon---
|
|
BB Spain
|
BOB - UK wrote: So Floyd, according to most reputable sources, intends "to fight the charges with the same determination and intensity that I bring to my training and racing".
I take it this will necessitate the downing of beer and Jack Daniels as reported he did the night before his miraculous recovery and victory on stage 17.
An odd choice of beverages for a seasoned professional hoping to recover from a severe battering in the mountains don't you think? Do you ride a two wheeler or a three wheeler. I thought so. At least up to then he was clean and you question his methods.
|
|
Curious
|
Michael wrote: <quoted text>
The question is what happened to Landis's sample after stage 17. Could the sample have been sabotaged after the stage and on the way to the lab?.... A little squirt of testosterone into Landis Urine sample. Interesting. If I were on Landis's defense team, I would make sure that the urine sample did in fact come from Floyd. A genetic match or mismatch could answer that question.
|
|
Wayne
|
Curious wrote: <quoted text>
Interesting. If I were on Landis's defense team, I would make sure that the urine sample did in fact come from Floyd. A genetic match or mismatch could answer that question. Probably way too late for that, although it is a good suggestion. Of course, if I wanted to sabatoge Floyd, I would spike his water.. That way, the urine sample would definitely come from Floyd. Naturally, I would use testosterone, as that can be adminstered orally. One question I have: How many riders on the 2006 TdF were tested for T/E???? more than one??? ---Salem Oregon---
|
|
Eagle17
|
Joe C wrote: Floyd Landis has insulted and shamed America forever. He has marred the name of the entire U.S.A. cycling team. I am ashamed of you Floyd. Whether they helped you or not holds no weight here, you have disgraced the cycling community, yourself, your family and America. Thank you for cheating, I hope you never hold the title of role model ever again. You are just another name in the long line of steroid driven athletes from America. While you are busy running your mouth about Landis, who, by the way, has still to prove his case, you should take a look in your own back yard, Jan Ullrich for starters!
|
|
Jaye
|
I wouldn't trust that French lab as far as I could throw it - meaning not at all! They should be using multiple labs for testing including some that are "non-French". If any of you bashing Floyd would do some research into his background and character, you'd see that these allegations go against everything he stands for. The French should just make the TDF "french rider's only" since they obviously can't stand it when someone other than french win it.
|
|
Jorge
|
And how many other riders listed in the Spanish investigation were Americans? And how many of them were Europeans? So I don't feel you could call the American athletes "steriod driven" and pretend that other European athletes are not.
|
Yellow Pages
Cars
Judge it!
51°F
Sagittarius
Most Popular