US preacher defends belief women can't teach men

Now, I saw earlier on where someone said Christ wanted to die. Both Mark 14:36 and Luke 22:42 speak of Christ in prayer in Gethsemane and asking that the Lord spare him from this fate. However, he said “…not My will, but Yours, be done.” He accepted what God our Father asked of Him and therefore died for our sins.

If you made it this far, then I am really glad you took the time to hear me out. If this made a difference to you, then I ask you to say a prayer. The words alone won’t save you. I can’t save you. Your next door neighbor, the cop up the street, even your pastor can not save you. Only Christ Jesus can save you and YOU have to have the faith that he can. Otherwise, these are just words with no meaning.

"God, I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. But Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in You for salvation. Thank You for Your wonderful grace and forgiveness - the gift of eternal life! Amen!"

There are many wonderful sites you can go to get more information. There are many good churches you can go to that will help you on your journey in Christ. Do you have to go to Church to be saved? NO! Church does not save you. Only Christ. Why go to Church? It helps to walk and fellowship with those who believe. A good site to go to which explains this better is http://www.biblenet.net/library/study/osborne... . I had a friend tell me one time that an Elder in his Church told him he needed to be there so God could hear him better. I have to chuckle at that one a bit. No, it’s for the fellowship and a chance of learning that we go to Church. Church is not a specific place. It can be anywhere. I once saw a church group that met at the local Hooters. I also saw a former church building being used as a bar. The place is not important, but the spirit of the people is. Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

Okay, I am done now. I pray this made a difference to someone. Amen.

When God made man, she was only kidding. (Or, IMHO, she was having a very bad PMS day).

LOL.:)

I believe God to be neither male nor female. However, I do refer in the context of He or Him. I base it on how the Bible reads.
Now, I know of a couple of cases where women speak as Prophetess. I think if a woman can speak the word and make a difference to someone, then she should. Still, ultimately, the only one who can truly answer this and state what He means and whose role is what is God. If God calls a woman to preach, who am I to say she can't?

Kerri wrote:

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If you read all of 1 Timothy 2&3 you will see that Paul is giving instructions on how the church should be set up.

Where does it say in the bible that Paul is in charge?
Read some unbiased research on Paul - he was a Jew raised by a devout Jewish father and a fun-loving Hellenic mother, who was envious of non-Jews and hell-bent to change things to fit him. WOW - kind of sounds like some male pastors I know!!!

I am really kind of tired of pointing this out, but yes, the bible IS IS IS written by MEN!! Inspired or not it still passed through the minds of men who lived in a misogynistic society. Also, why is it that only what is in the bible is inspired by God? Nothing else has any validity??

Hi Eileen,

I listed some really good books to read that explain these things. I gave references earlier. I ask you for your references to support your claims. Where did this unbiased research you speak come from? What are the titles and where can they be found? If online, links would help. I am open to reading the material of which you speak. Are you open minded to read the things I cited earlier?
Arguments can be made both ways, however, if you are unwilling to look at what I present to you, then there is no need to go further. I have offered to look over your points as soon as you can give me the references.
Thanks and have a blessed day.

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.-Ghandi.

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Place: PseudoChristian Hell
Time: After my death.

In the Lake of Fire, writhing in eternal torment are the bodies of Adolf Hitler, Mark Lotzer, Gandhi, and True Jesus.“Oh the pain! It’s horrible! We burn! The torment of it and we are damned to suffer forever!” Suddenly, Satan says,“Ok, it’s fine! PseudogOd isn’t looking anymore! I haven’t let the water get too cold!”

Adolf:“Actually, a couple degrees warmer would be nice! How about it guys?”

Everyone nods in agreement.

True Jesus:“What is taking Madalyn?

Satan:“Murray O'Hair was muttered something about tonight’s adventure taking a little longer to prepare.”

Gandhi:“We’re just invading PseudoHeaven! I can not wait for my assassin to slit some of those PseudoChristians’ throats!”

Adolf:“Hey, you’re supposed to be a Pacifist!”

Gandhi:“Oh, PLUCK YOU! I can do whatever I want. It is just make believe!”

True Jesus:“Mark, stop smiling! We all know you are going to get some after the D&D game!”

Mark:“That is not what I am smiling about. I am just content. I have been this way ever since I found my Muse! I am worried about how long this thing I have with Madalyn can last, after all it has been a couple of centuries already!”

Satan:“I have seen it before. You are just another incurable romantic. You and Madalyn will always be like this” and he crosses fingers in front of his gaming buddies.
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PseudoChristians, you are nothing special. You just another group of intolerant buttheads! Just know that the Members of the Age of Reason have banded together to protect the innocent from any with your world domination aspirations. Think of it as a Pentagon of Protection composed of Atheism, Agnosticism, Satanism, The Zoroastrian-Judeo-Christian-Is lamic Tradition, and Paganism that will surround and protect the world at large from the likes of you!

I Believe AGNOSTICISM. Theist, Agnostic, or Atheist (i.e. I believe in some form of religion; I suspend belief in any form of religion; or I believe in no form of religion). Since it is impossible to prove any of the choices, you are equally correct in picking any one of them.-------- Science Happened-GET OVER IT!-------- I PLEDGE THIS ON MY SWORD OF REASONED THOUGHT AND EMPIRICAL SCIENCE SHALL BE MY SHIELD! I AM THE PALADIN REBORN FOR THE AGE OF REASON. ALWAYS REMEMBER MY STURDY YEW LONGBOW ON MY BACK WHICH I WILL USE TO PLUCK AWAY MY DETRACTORS FROM A DISTANCE. FRODO AND LUKE LIVE AND VAINAMOINEN IS AS WISE AS A MAN BORN OLD. THESE ARE MY PERSONAL TRUTHS!

If you would like to see how this all begins, please go to:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/pagan-wic...

pseudochristians,

You are boring and dull because you are intellectually dead! I guess that is what faith based thinking can get you. I have yet to see any of you provide anything other than the usual gibberish.

My read bible right. You wrong. Only church brain dead can get into, bless.

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Tilly wrote:

Why can't we just trust "Him"? Well, Kerri, I do. But I don't trust mankind to properly represent "Him."
"He" didn't write the Bible; men did. Nor did "He" sit down with the Pope and his political council in the Third Century AD and decide which scriptures to delete from the writings and which to promote. Even earlier than that, "He" didn't remove women from the church; Paul did. Even in the Bible Christ is quoted as saying all are equal. THAT was and is his message.
Who knows how each of us is called to serve? I doubt God cares about gender.

Another person already addressed my point regarding inspired scripture...the words men wrote were inspired by God.

There were many synods in the early church that reviewed the books that make up the Bible today. I agree with you on that, however, I do trust that God would keep His word intact. My question is if you believe the part that would allow women to be in positions of leadership might have been thrown out where is it?

I've read the Apocrypha. I don't remember seeing it.

Tilly, I understand your mistrust of man. That is why we all need to investigate, research, and learn on our own....not just be blind sheep willing to follow anything or anyone BUT the Bible.

Chuck Baker wrote:

LOL.:)
I believe God to be neither male nor female. However, I do refer in the context of He or Him. I base it on how the Bible reads.
Now, I know of a couple of cases where women speak as Prophetess. I think if a woman can speak the word and make a difference to someone, then she should. Still, ultimately, the only one who can truly answer this and state what He means and whose role is what is God. If God calls a woman to preach, who am I to say she can't?

IF GOD CALLS.What would you base that on? What the individual says?People have said God has called them,told them, and showed all kinds of thing that weren't true.
I think it boils down to whether the bible is the word of God or not.If it is I don't know of any women preachers in it ,matter of fact it seems to be prohibited.Is Paul speaking for himself?

1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Rebellion is throughout the bible and we are warned of false teachers,a person has to be honest with himself or herself and decide for themselves I guess.