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Hoosier Hillbilly

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WRITTEN BY A 21 YEAR OLD FEMALE Wow, this girl has a great plan! Love the
last thing she would do the best.

This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It's her future she's
worried about and this is how she feels about the social welfare big
government state that she's being forced to live in! These solutions are
just common sense in her opinion.

This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX , Nov 18, 2011

PUT ME IN CHARGE ...

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for
Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans,
blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want
steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women
Norplant birth control implants or tubal legations. Then, we'll test
recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use
drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks?
You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your
home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be
inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your
own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or
you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of
trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We
will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo
and speakers and put that money toward the "common good.."

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of
the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you
say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem," consider
that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing
absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least
attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system
rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov't subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is
correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will
voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov't
welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

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Idiotic!
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Amen Sister ! I'm getting sick and tired of standing in line at the grocery while food stamp girl in front of me is buying steak and Mountain Dew for the party she is having.If you can't find a job watch my kids while I work.

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Right in some aspects but is a total bad idea, sounds like all the person wants is to piss someone off in real life that they know doesn't have a job and gets the welfare check z

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Get over it, i don't like it either but that shit will catch up to them and they'll regret it. Making more stupid laws isn't going to help anything but plummet our pathetic economy into a bigger hole besides the one its in
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How is this idiotic? I think she is right on!! What's wrong with making someone take care of what we the tax payers give them? What's wrong with making people live the same standards as our military personnel? If you want more get a job!

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It became idiotic the minute it said she was forced to live in Texas and went down hill from there.

No where in the rant does it address people who are on welfare due to oh let's say a parapalegic who is in a wheelchair for life due to a drunk driver and can't afford food because they can't work.

It fails to address the children who are recipients of welfare through no fault of their own. No cookies for those children?

Sure the abusers of the system need weeded out and this is a great idea for them, but it's not logical on an overall bases which makes it idiotic.
Starr

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I think it's brilliant!!
Starr

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No cookies for those children?

I'm sorry but kids do not need cookies to survive. All the junk food and greasy fast foods are what is leading to the overweight and obese children these days. A good home cooked meal is what these kids need, not a pack of cookies their mom lays on the table and says here's breakfast.
Hoosier Hillbilly

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Quote: Idiotic!


Poop Bear 'i' think you missed the point)0?0'.'

social welfare big government state
that she's being forced to live in

Poo you must take the statement more literally (hyperbole intended to gain emphasis) and realize she didn't say this
the news paper did;
Example: turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice --- ain't going to happen is it?
= Readers could also interpert 'state' as being the United States.=
In fact that's how 'i' see it. The United States has definitely become a social welfare state not only for our own citizens
but [ illegal immigrants ] and our "donations" to other countries,
not considering the *nosing in* "WE" do that goes along with it!

People that are on {welfare}'honestly' have no need to be addressed concerning her # PUT ME IN CHARGE#
dissertation. She's condemning the ( miss-use ) of the system,
and how she'd go about correcting it. Probably creating more
financial aid for those that actually need it.

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Sure the abusers of the system need weeded out and this is a great idea for them, but it's not logical on an overall bases which makes it idiotic.



IMO:'i' see nothing unlogical about trying to improve a system that is broken and corupt! Name one thing recently that government has instigated |||not followed up on||| that hasn't gone foul? Your use of overall needs to be changed to OVERHauL

'idiotic'- someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way
EXAMPLE: "OUR" government

Koala Girl this is & was not meant to "offend" your posts, only to give you a different view point.'i' respect your thoughts & beliefs.

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Starr wrote:
No cookies for those children?
I'm sorry but kids do not need cookies to survive. All the junk food and greasy fast foods are what is leading to the overweight and obese children these days. A good home cooked meal is what these kids need, not a pack of cookies their mom lays on the table and says here's breakfast.
You're right. A cookie every now and then should be outlawed. It's the root of our obesity epidemic. It's not super sized cokes every meal, video games etc. It's a cookie now and again lol

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HH: You glad to see you recognize my ability to have opinions I see this in one light, you see it in another, however your last paragraph about respecting my opinions and thoughts is derailed as you called me "poop bear".

I'm in no way offended with you holding a different outlook, nor am I offended you called me "poop bear", the girls article was idiotic and you calling names, then stating you hope I'm not offended was ironic.

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Also HH, this goes back to disability checks for people who don't deserve them. People fake illnesses all the time, people cause their own illnesses,(obesity etc.) and gain checks in the mail and live better lives than that single mother up the
street working two jobs to care for her three children after their father ran off with someone.

People who really need assistance can't always get it because others are abusing the system, I get that and it ticks me off as well. The system is flawed, so is our judicial system, our immigration system, our country is a mess period, I don't disagree, however your girl up there addressed none of the issues that are the heart of the issue.

Welfare is needed for some people, they shouldn't be penelized because idiots abuse the system.

Perhaps her heart was in the right place, but it will never happen.
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It's not super sized cokes every meal, video games etc.

Which is exactly why it was addressed that if you want to eat junk food and play video games...get a job! And me being a mother of 3 children knows more than anyone if the junkfood is in the house it's consumed more than every now and then. Btw, are you defending yourself or society in general, because you seem to be taking everything on a personal level.
Hoosier Hillbilly

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YEW! Starr, it's going to take both of "US" to fight this 'pooh bear' off, if she gets Cookie Monster on her side we're in real trouble!

HH:(((You glad to see you))) recognize my ability to have opinions I see this in one light, you see it in another, however your last paragraph about respecting my opinions and thoughts is derailed as you called me "poop bear
well 'we' didn't exactly get to see each other-but as you can see, we're human and whether it's written or spoken 'we' mess up, Pooh Bear

IMO: "WE" 'just' agree to disagree, OK?
Hoosier Hillbilly

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PS:{{{teasing only}}}
Just wait til 'i' get a chance to knit-pick a post
she writes
sarcasm a specialty
but there's no reason to be
afraid of me
just allow 'me' space to breathe

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Starr wrote:
It's not super sized cokes every meal, video games etc.
Which is exactly why it was addressed that if you want to eat junk food an
play video games...get a job! And me being a mother of 3 children knows more than anyone if the junkfood is in the house it's consumed more than every now and then. Btw, are you defending yourself or society in general, because you seem to be taking everything on a personal level.


You know more than anyone because you have three kids? I guess I know more than anyone *would that include you?* because I also have three children all boys.

I'm defensive? I stated my opinion, "idiotic", you and HH responded quoting me, therefore I responded once again, so nope, not defensive. I have never been on any government assistance, I hope I never have to be, but if the call arises, I'll thank you kindly for paying for my food.:)

You're right, if cookies and junk are constantly bought, they will be constantly consumed. However, there are those little rolls of cookies you can get, I think they are called snack packs, with about 6 cookies in them for probably a dollar. One a month gives your children two cookies each in a 30 day period, that's not acceptable?

At no point did I say "feed your kids cookies all day" "give your kids cookies everyday". So please either read only what I type and not add your commentary, or refrain from reading MY OPINION!

Super sized drinks and video games aren't an issue? Really now? These kids are stuck on video games, and super sized drinks, try a day at the pool. I was shocked to see these young kids coming in guzziling their polar pop (bought with a food stamp card - that's right, I noticed the lady buying polar pop with the blue Hooiser Works Card at circle K ).

It may shock you, there are 16 packs of sugar in a 16 oz soda. Polar pop is what 32 oz? Yeah, super sized soda doesn't contribute to obesity.

We both have three children. Congrats I am sure your children are blessed to have you. Children are a blessing.

*** I do not disagree, a ton of people on welfare need to get off their rear ends and get a job. I'm sick of paying for the junkie on the corner as much as you are. If YOU hadn't taken my position so personnaly, perhaps you would have grasped my stance.

It's idiotic to assume all on welfare are abusing it, and idiotic to say all on welfare are physically and mentally capable of working.

I do know a parapalegic, sits in a wheelchair for the rest of his life, only because he was on his way to work when he was struck from the side by a drunk driver.

He was on his way to work to support the four kids he has with a wife who who stationed in Afghanastan.(He also a vet, survived two tours in Iraq) Little did he know, that morning his wife's humvee (spelling) was struck by a bomb, thankfully both survived their day of hell, but they both sit in chairs today, one waiting on the gov to provide prostesis and the other for life. Both through no fault of their own.

They should get a job and ban peanut butter cookies from their house?

The girls rant was about welfare recipiants either do what she said with the funds or get a job. It doesn't work that way in the real world. That was my point you got upset over? I took it personal, no I don't think I did, but if I did, it's because of people like the family I mentioned and close minded people who don't see the whole picture. It's all "me, me me".
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No, actually honey it has nothing to do with "me" it has to do with the "Welfare" system that is completely out of control. The social security checks that are not going to be there for anyone weather they've worked their whole life or not because of "the single mom on the corner" that refuses to get a job because she's receiving rental assistance, a tanf check every month, and at least $250 a month in food stamps. Now why should she get a job?

I am a single mother of three children and have never, not once received a dime from any assistance. I have worked over 20 years to provide food and healthcare for my kids. I'm sorry for the family you know that are parapalegic, but I firmly believe they need to start drawing the line somewhere. And no, it's not just the "welfare" you are right it includes disability and unemployment, they are all being taken advantage of. And the girls idea was a good way to get started, "in my OPINION". But they too are like a$$holes, everyone has them.
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And no, I'm sorry I do not buy junk food for the house nor are my kids aloud to drink pop. Once in a while I will take them for ice cream or if we go out to dinner they can have dessert,I guess my kids are deprived of sugar but at least they are healthy, and they will know that working is not an option, if you are physically able.

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Star -

I'm not your honey to start with.

I never said the system was perfect, again you put words in my mouth.

It doesn't sound like your children are deprived.

I'm not an advocate for feeding junk to kids, but like your kids getting the occasional ice cream, my friends children also deserve the occassional treat.

I will repeat myself one more time and HOPE you will finally get it, I AGREE with you, there is to much welfare fraud that is taxing the system to death. It needs overhauled, but labeling all welfare recipients as lazy and taking advantage is wrong. Saying your kids are basically more worthy of an occasional treat than "poor" kids is wrong.

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