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Apr 26, 2012
 
I heard there was a drug bust on 4-20-2012 around the down town area. Any one know who?
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Apr 26, 2012
 
Who ? Probally one of my former class mates.
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Apr 26, 2012
 
really wrote:
I heard there was a drug bust on 4-20-2012 around the down town area. Any one know who?
co cops came to the house, busted down the door looking for some punk didn't even live there. Heard they held three teenagers in the back room questioned them without a lawyer and searched the place- no warrant or anything (just a warrant out on that boy they were looking for- not to search the house). Found weed and a couple empty beer cans in one of the rooms and charged all three- no drug test or anything. Only one lived there- cop said just being in the same house gets u charged. Does that mean if your under 21 at Applebee's you get charged with underage drinking?
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Apr 26, 2012
 
GvilleGrad wrote:
Who ? Probally one of my former class mates.
you can go ask at the county sheriff's dept but they "didn't have the record of it." amazing....
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Apr 26, 2012
 
true story wrote:
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co cops came to the house, busted down the door looking for some punk didn't even live there. Heard they held three teenagers in the back room questioned them without a lawyer and searched the place- no warrant or anything (just a warrant out on that boy they were looking for- not to search the house). Found weed and a couple empty beer cans in one of the rooms and charged all three- no drug test or anything. Only one lived there- cop said just being in the same house gets u charged. Does that mean if your under 21 at Applebee's you get charged with underage drinking?
Good....maybe people should be careful where and with who they hang with...

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Apr 26, 2012
 
So punishing people for association is perfectly okay now?
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Apr 26, 2012
 
Wandering wrote:
<quoted text>Good....maybe people should be careful where and with who they hang with...
You think?! Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard a co cop say you can be charged for just being around something, whether you know about it or not. Better be careful who you're with because this raises several scenarios:
1. You are house sitting. The neighbor sees an unfamiliar car and calls the cops. The cops come and you explain the situation. They start looking around and find insulin syringes and alcohol swabs. You explain they belong to the owner but because you are there and cannot find a prescription, they charge you with drug para., then use that as a reason to search other rooms in the house. They find a tin with pills and state you are being charged with poss of schedule 4. You explain you don't even live there, but too bad, you're butt is in jail. No drug test, nothing on your person, NOTHING. Just being there makes you guilty.(according to the co cop I was hearing)
2. Say you are an 18 year old babysitter. You are at the children's home. Cops have a warrant out on someone who is rumored to be related to the people who live at that residence, so while you are there cops come looking. You tell them no one is there except you and the children. You agree to let them look around. They see some empty beer cans in the trash and ask of you've been drinking. You say no and agree to a test, but instead you are charged with underage drinking. You are later cleared but still your pic is in the busted paper and you are held in cell until Monday for your arraignment, because you happen to be poor and your parents cannot afford bail. Not only were you publicly humiliated, but your mugshot stays on the busted pages after your charges are dismissed. Seem fair?
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Apr 26, 2012
 
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So punishing people for association is perfectly okay now?
apparently! Personally, I know it won't stick for the one boy who was only there for a few mins, to give one a ride home. Only one of them actually lived there.
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Apr 27, 2012
 
they were looking for jj hudson and it was at ryan serra's house but he wasnt home but darryl his roommate was, a lot of jj's friends are getting in trouble cause he is running from the law and the law wants him bad but well he's long gone haha
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Apr 27, 2012
 

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they were looking for jj hudson and it was at ryan serra's house but he wasnt home but darryl his roommate was, a lot of jj's friends are getting in trouble cause he is running from the law and the law wants him bad but well he's long gone haha
Its risky running with drug users & deelers so if you dont like that lifestyles then you better stay away from them cause its Risky & they culd even b on drugs & u not even now it
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Apr 27, 2012
 
true story wrote:
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You think?! Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard a co cop say you can be charged for just being around something, whether you know about it or not. Better be careful who you're with because this raises several scenarios:
1. You are house sitting. The neighbor sees an unfamiliar car and calls the cops. The cops come and you explain the situation. They start looking around and find insulin syringes and alcohol swabs. You explain they belong to the owner but because you are there and cannot find a prescription, they charge you with drug para., then use that as a reason to search other rooms in the house. They find a tin with pills and state you are being charged with poss of schedule 4. You explain you don't even live there, but too bad, you're butt is in jail. No drug test, nothing on your person, NOTHING. Just being there makes you guilty.(according to the co cop I was hearing)
2. Say you are an 18 year old babysitter. You are at the children's home. Cops have a warrant out on someone who is rumored to be related to the people who live at that residence, so while you are there cops come looking. You tell them no one is there except you and the children. You agree to let them look around. They see some empty beer cans in the trash and ask of you've been drinking. You say no and agree to a test, but instead you are charged with underage drinking. You are later cleared but still your pic is in the busted paper and you are held in cell until Monday for your arraignment, because you happen to be poor and your parents cannot afford bail. Not only were you publicly humiliated, but your mugshot stays on the busted pages after your charges are dismissed. Seem fair?
Not even remotely close to same situation.....I'm just saying know who you hang with....
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Apr 27, 2012
 
Wandering wrote:
<quoted text>Not even remotely close to same situation.....I'm just saying know who you hang with....
correct, because if they're pissed at your friend, you'll pay too.
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Apr 28, 2012
 
they are all really close friends of mine, no need to talk shit. They were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. And although Darrell lives there, he got charged with all the stuff that belonged to ryan
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Apr 28, 2012
 
Ima gonna buy drug testes and drug testes people befire they come in my house
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Apr 28, 2012
 
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Ima gonna buy drug testes and drug testes people befire they come in my house
You might want to try 'tests' before you begin 'testing' your friends. If you have to consider whether your friends are users, you probably need to seek new friends.
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Apr 28, 2012
 
Whatami90 wrote:
<quoted text>You might want to try 'tests' before you begin 'testing' your friends. If you have to consider whether your friends are users, you probably need to seek new friends.
do u actually think Robert McNeese's pals knew what he was doing? One of his best buds is a federal agent! Lol He seemed like the biggest goody goody ever. When people are being arrested by ASSOCIATION only, sounds like Burns has lost control of a couple of his officers. I'm sure the majority are good by far, but seem afraid to stand up to ones acting outside of the law. Of course it's not legal to arrest someone for drugs when they didn't know about because to be actually convicted of possession, the burden of proof is on the prosecution to show the person not only knew about it but also had control over it. Also, there was not a search warrant, which the co cops actually think they don't need. Question is, Burns, do you need a lawsuit or can you help your officers understand we don't live in Nazi Germany?
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Apr 29, 2012
 
true story wrote:
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co cops came to the house, busted down the door looking for some punk didn't even live there. Heard they held three teenagers in the back room questioned them without a lawyer and searched the place- no warrant or anything (just a warrant out on that boy they were looking for- not to search the house). Found weed and a couple empty beer cans in one of the rooms and charged all three- no drug test or anything. Only one lived there- cop said just being in the same house gets u charged. Does that mean if your under 21 at Applebee's you get charged with underage drinking?
You CAN be questioned without a lawyer, if you allow it. They can question teenagers WITHOUT their parents present if they are in the process of determining a certain present situation, such as an accident scene, crime scene, etc. The teenagers are witnesses. The police do not need a warrant to enter the premises IF they have reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed or that a wanted person is present there. They can also call in a warrant and have it prepared DURING the entrance. Knocking down the door is normal procedure if violence can be expected or surprise is necessary in order to contain possible flight of individuals or destruction of evidence. And, they are NOT required to fix said door when they leave (at least, if they find that laws have been broken). ANYTHING out in the open and within eyesight or earshot is OPEN GAME for a cop (by law) AND can lead to FURTHER investigation and search - legally. ALL would have been arrested because its not the arresting officer's duty to figure out who did what, where and when. It is his duty to get the law breaker, end the law breaking, and gather ALL the evidence possible for the investigators and courts to use to find out who is at fault. That way, the innocent are not convicted and the guilty do not go free. The innocent MAY be detained for a short while before being charged and/or cleared.@ Applebee's - yes, if you are drinking alcohol AND are underage. More importantly, the restaurant, the chain, and especially the waiter/waitress and manager would be investigated. But, that situation is about a misdemeanor and concerns a business and is non-violent, etc. It would probably come under different rules/laws and be investigated by different departments and bureaus. That is a little out of my area of experience.
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Apr 29, 2012
 
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Good....maybe people should be careful where and with who they hang with...
YES. This is VERY true. Which is why I DO NOT hang out with people who I know to be breaking the law. Especially, since I have a past felony conviction of possession with intent. From a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago. Clean and law-abiding ever since. However, with that record, it becomes a little more difficult for me to prove my innocence in a situation such as that. ESPECIALLY, if it is drug-related. And, ESPECIALLY, if the others KNOW of that past conviction and say "Its not ours. Its his." Then I would have to commit ANOTHER felony.:)
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Apr 29, 2012
 
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So punishing people for association is perfectly okay now?
Yes. We do it ALL the time in the public arena. You, yourself, judge ALL Christians because of the actions of a few. I read your comments all the time on Topix. And, legally, you CAN punish people for association. If you knowingly and willingly allow a drunk to drive, then you are at fault. If you watch a murder transpire and do nothing to stop it, then you are at fault. If you know your friend is going to blow up a federal building and you do not report it, then you are at fault. Younger generations apparently do not understand the concept of responsibility.
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Apr 29, 2012
 
true story wrote:
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You think?! Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard a co cop say you can be charged for just being around something, whether you know about it or not. Better be careful who you're with because this raises several scenarios:
1. You are house sitting. The neighbor sees an unfamiliar car and calls the cops. The cops come and you explain the situation. They start looking around and find insulin syringes and alcohol swabs. You explain they belong to the owner but because you are there and cannot find a prescription, they charge you with drug para., then use that as a reason to search other rooms in the house. They find a tin with pills and state you are being charged with poss of schedule 4. You explain you don't even live there, but too bad, you're butt is in jail. No drug test, nothing on your person, NOTHING. Just being there makes you guilty.(according to the co cop I was hearing)
2. Say you are an 18 year old babysitter. You are at the children's home. Cops have a warrant out on someone who is rumored to be related to the people who live at that residence, so while you are there cops come looking. You tell them no one is there except you and the children. You agree to let them look around. They see some empty beer cans in the trash and ask of you've been drinking. You say no and agree to a test, but instead you are charged with underage drinking. You are later cleared but still your pic is in the busted paper and you are held in cell until Monday for your arraignment, because you happen to be poor and your parents cannot afford bail. Not only were you publicly humiliated, but your mugshot stays on the busted pages after your charges are dismissed. Seem fair?
Yes. Both cases are very possible. However, the police would use a little discretion and common sense. UNLESS, the owners of the house were the REAL subject of police investigation. Then the house/baby sitter would become a pawn to gain what evidence is possible. This is called leverage. Used against the innocent to get information and used against the guilty to get results. Leverage is used EVERY day in the legal and business worlds. House sitting is a little more difficult because you SHOULD be aware of what is in the house that you are responsible for. Like a car - you are responsible for its contents. Remember that when you give your friend a ride (you know, the one who is "holding"). Being arrested is not being guilty or convicted. It is a process by which individuals are detained until investigators can figure out what is REALLY going on. "I didn't rob that bank, officer. That duffelbag full of money is a birthday present from my dear old grandmother." "Oh, OK, sir. Move along then. Sorry for the inconvenience." Or, "Those pills aren't mine. They are the owners. I think they deal drugs." Or, "That's not mine. It must have fell out of the pocket of that hitchhiker I just dropped off." If that's the case, then no one would ever be arrested.
I don't agree with the busted paper, but it IS public information and this IS a free country. And, being human we ALL know that if you are in that paper, then you are guilty. Right? Do they print retractions for people who are cleared? Probably not, because they NEVER report it as conviction - just arrest (which is what it is). Remember, you are innocent until proven guilty. Still - the public eye. And, they're making money. And, you're probably buying the paper. Hmmmmmmm..........

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