Obama's change in birth control mandate praised by some; bishop reserving judgment

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Mark wrote:

Blue,enough of the sarcasm. Libtards are taking you for earnest.

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Shoeless Eluder wrote:

Yep you bet. BHO is playing political shell games with peoples emotions. So when will the secretary of HHS make another decision that will cause an uproar? Cant wait for that. I find it totally ridiculous that a (p)resident has to talk about this.
If you want birth control pay for it. Its an individual responsibility. Not the governments or an insurance company. The fact that the government is even involved in this should make everyone think about what is really going on. These brain trusts really think we all are stupid.
NO MORE LAWS WE HAVE ENOUGH!!
Sure am glad I don't have to deal with this anymore.. Oops I forget we all have skin or money in the game..

radell wrote:

<quoted text>If you take your assertion that birth control is an individual responsibility, to be paid for by the individual, then child birth follows that same logic.

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radell wrote:

<quoted text>If you take your assertion that birth control is an individual responsibility, to be paid for by the individual, then child birth follows that same logic.

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Shoeless Eluder wrote:

<quoted text>Makes one wonder how people did it 1000 years ago or even 150 years ago it was an individual thing. If insurance was never invented or government trying take over our lives we would all be better off and life would be much less expensive different no doubt but less expensive.

radell wrote:

<quoted text>I don't wonder. I know, the history is there. An unacceptable percentage of infants and mothers died.

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radell wrote:

<quoted text>I don't wonder. I know, the history is there. An unacceptable percentage of infants and mothers died.

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Go Blue wrote:

<quoted text> Sorry Mark, i did'nt notice, you all ready there, wanting to tell the women folk how it should be.....

Mark wrote:

<quoted text>You mean you weren't being sarcastic? Lashing out at entitlements and then trying to afford one for abortion, abortifacients, and sterilization? Obama did nothing, this is no compromise,this is nonsense and he should be replaced. It's not about what the definition of is, is...

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Shoeless Eluder wrote:

<quoted text>Your missing the point.. Insurance companies and government have made the cost of everything almost unaffordable. There was a time though when government stayed out stayed away from research left it to scientists who payed for there own education to do their work, they may have got grants to do research, but now grants come with strings attached..
Let me ask you a question. Is it government that caused infant mortality to decline or people who realized there was a better way? The point I am making is nothing is free. The cost just keeps getting passed down to those who are not having children like most people over forty five but we still pay for something that is not our/their responsibility, whether it is contraceptives, or people, couples who really cant afford to have children but expect others to pay the bill for their mistake or ignorance, and I am amazed at how many ignorant young people are out there today, after all the advancements in "education". When was it that the paradigm changed that people just expect someone else to take care of their problems or needs or wants? There are always exceptions but when you open the door everyone wants to get in and who can blame them when the president says its free.
If you cant afford children then either don't have sex or pay for your own birth control again it is an individual responsibility not all of ours. It doesn't take a village to prevent an unwanted pregnancy just two responsible people.

Go Blue wrote:

<quoted text>....Well, a little sarcastic......but, i am for all types of birth control, for the entitlement crowd.....they often, display a definate lack of proper direction.....

Mark wrote:

<quoted text>That would be anyone for SS and Medicare? Wow... I guess I should find a way to stop paying some 17% of my income into the two... Would hate for what I pay for to actually be there, when I get that age...

Khuan wrote:

Would the rancid left smear machine refer to the obamanation's change of imperial orders as "flip flopping"? or just more political expediency necessary to get the obamanation reelected.
The rancid left smear machine's spin to it's leftist base on the obamanation's flip flop: "As alinsky would say, do or say whatever it takes to get the obamanation reelected, then, once reelected, the wraps will come off and the obamanation will unleash his full leftist agenda".