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What
Saint Paul, MN
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Bears Guy wrote: <quoted text>
It sure is funny how you people enjoy user fees for roads, but there can only be subsidies for transit. Once again, I think that if it was self-supporting more people would encourage it.
When the main reason for taking a bus is that it costs less than driving, and you take into effect that the cost of running the bus is around double the bus fare, there is definetely a problem. Carl Pohlad knew that busses could not make money, which is why he sold them. Carl Pohlad is a private businessman. He and government are in very different lines of work. There are many reasons to subsidize public transit - to me, the primary one is that many of the working poor can not afford the upkeep, taxes and fuel of a car. how do you expect a primarily service economy to keep running if its workers cannot get to their jobs? The shortsightedness of you "run it like a business! it should make a profit" types astounds me.
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Bob
Minneapolis, MN
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Your monthly pass should cover the cost of running your choice of transportation, it DOESN'T! My choice of transportation is a car and I pay for LRT in many ways: Lic tab fee, MVST, property tax, gas tax diverted to LRT, sales tax, and I'm sure many other taxes government hides. I have NO NEED for LRT and have NEVER used it. I will never use the central corridor either and yet I pay through the nose for the thug runner. And you say you don't use the roads, BS! Where does everything you consume come from. And what do you ride when the LRT has a down line or kills somone?? YOU RIDE THE BUS ON THE ROAD!!! Where woule LRT be without the BUS backup???? Most of the riders of LRT use it as a park and ride avoiding $12 a day parking and now days about $6 in gas not to mention not having to sit in traffic on obsolete roads!! There would be absolutly NOTHING wrong with charging $6 for a ride on LRT. If the cheap riders of LRT would carry their share of the cost of it I doubt anyone would complain! You talk like just because you pay for it then everybody should pay for the majority of the cost of operating it, NOT A WIN WIN!!! You need to be a little less CHEAP and pay your way, that is the way the USA has worked for years and will continue to work going forward! ========== Kacy wrote: @Frank, I pay for a monthly pass to ride the train. Why should I have to pay the taxes for roads and bridges I don't use? Same stupid logic, just reversed.
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What
Minneapolis, MN
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Bob wrote: My choice of transportation is a car and I pay for LRT in many ways: Lic tab fee, MVST, property tax, gas tax diverted to LRT, sales tax, and I'm sure many other taxes government hides. Bob: more preyed-upon-taxpayer fantasies and lies. You're almost a parody of yourself at this point.
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Bob
Minneapolis, MN
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Th best ya can do name calling!! No response, no brain!! What wrote: <quoted text>
Bob: more preyed-upon-taxpayer fantasies and lies. You're almost a parody of yourself at this point.
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What
Minneapolis, MN
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Bob wrote: Th best ya can do name calling!!
No response, no brain!!
<quoted text> The best I can do? Ha ha. Short memory as well, eh? Others, including me, have many times explained to you why your assessment of transportation funding is wrong. And yet you continue to spout the same lies over and over. There's nothing left to do but point and laugh at you.
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TOLD U SO
Minneapolis, MN
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Other than some fancy schmanzy eateries around Summit Avenue and a walk around that neighborhood, there's nothing to go to Saint Paul for.
No use going to the Capitol region. Boring and full of bullsheiters. University Avenue is all greasy Asian eateries.
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Bob
Minneapolis, MN
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But wait, if we build a $1,000,000,000 LRT line on University Ave "They Will Come"! But wait if we spend $30,000,000 a year to maintain the LRT line on University Ave. "They Will Come"! The ONLY reason LRT is being built on University is so Phyills Kahn and the other Muderapolis legislators can have a fine ride for their fat a--s--s--e--s! Someone figure out the cost per ride on that deal. ========== TOLD U SO wrote: Other than some fancy schmanzy eateries around Summit Avenue and a walk around that neighborhood, there's nothing to go to Saint Paul for.
No use going to the Capitol region. Boring and full of bullsheiters. University Avenue is all greasy Asian eateries.
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Joined: Feb 7, 2008
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St Paul, MN
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Minneapolis, MN
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Bob wrote: Your monthly pass should cover the cost of running your choice of transportation, it DOESN'T!
My choice of transportation is a car and I pay for LRT in many ways: Lic tab fee, MVST, property tax, gas tax diverted to LRT, sales tax, and I'm sure many other taxes government hides.
I have NO NEED for LRT and have NEVER used it. I will never use the central corridor either and yet I pay through the nose for the thug runner.
And you say you don't use the roads, BS! Where does everything you consume come from. And what do you ride when the LRT has a down line or kills somone?? YOU RIDE THE BUS ON THE ROAD!!!
Where woule LRT be without the BUS backup????
Most of the riders of LRT use it as a park and ride avoiding $12 a day parking and now days about $6 in gas not to mention not having to sit in traffic on obsolete roads!!
There would be absolutly NOTHING wrong with charging $6 for a ride on LRT.
If the cheap riders of LRT would carry their share of the cost of it I doubt anyone would complain!
You talk like just because you pay for it then everybody should pay for the majority of the cost of operating it, NOT A WIN WIN!!!
You need to be a little less CHEAP and pay your way, that is the way the USA has worked for years and will continue to work going forward!
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<quoted text> As much as I dislike most of your rants, I agree with paying a bit more of the fair share per ticket for the cost of LRT. I was in the Bay Area 2 months ago and a round-trip bart ticket varied depending on how far you went. The cheapest I paid was $3.80 (about a 25 minute ride) and the most I paid was $8 each way. Granted, parking in downtown San Francisco was up to $25 per day so we're comparing different types of apples here, but it makes sense that the farther you ride, the more you pay. That could work anywhere, no?
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Concerned in Twin Cities
Minneapolis, MN
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I can't figure out who wants this light rail! Any time I've seen the light rail running they've been empty! The only actual reason I've heard in favor of light rail was a student who felt he/she was entitled to a better ride to and from school. When this student is done with their school education they'll be bickering about having to pay the expense themselves. The ones who pay for this convenience are those who work and are being taxed to death already. Also, I can't help but think of the I-35 bridge that went down with 13 innocent victims and paid with their lives. I wonder what they would say to any funds being diverted toward light rail seeing as how they were killed by a neglected bridge.
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