Marin health department receives first shipment of injectable s...

Kaiser got its own access to the vaccine, but it wasn't a "priority" over health departments--just a separate distribution channel. Of course, Kaiser did quickly complete its forms and submit its information. I wonder what county bureaucrat sat on the forms for Marin and other counties, and how much time has been spent by politicos trying to figure out how to benefit from the "public" distribution channel.

A good reporting project for the I-J would be finding out what dates which paperwork was completed and submitted--but that might involve hard work, like submitting open records act requests and the like.

Another good IJ project would be to see how many in San Quentin have been innoculated, or how soon they are scheduled to get it. I was in S. CA and some of the talk shows were discussing how the prisons were going to get the vaccine first. I guess that takes priority over a 5 year old with respritory problems...

Too bad the injectable form of the vaccination contains Thimerosal, a potent form of mercury. Mercury is a neurotoxin that will impair your immune system, and the vaccination will cause more harm than good for some people.

Line starts over there.....

Since my wife is 9 months pregnant and high risk, I contacted College of Marin and they are only giving shots to their students. So as a Marin taxpayer (and College of Marin taxpayer), why are H1N1 shots going to low risk college students? This is ludicrous.

"anti in marin":

Yes, this vaccine does contain Thimerosal, but whether you choose to believe the respected scholars on this subject (virtually no risk) or the little industry of witchcraft which has sprung up around trying to convince parents of autistic children that "something" caused the autism, is up to you.

In my view, two facts are plain:

First, no lifestyle on this planet will prevent exposure to some traces of mercury, which is the alleged neurotoxin component of Thimerosal. The effect of one Thimerosal-preserved vaccination is truly minimal.

Second, no lifestyle on this planet is absolutely risk-free. The risk of children contracting H1N1 is very real and many deaths have resulted. The risk of a Thimerosal-preserved vaccination is minor if not totally a fraud. You have to make a choice.

Some people will always believe the smooth talking charlatans. I learned long ago that some were attracted to those perpetrating lies that made people feel better, and some weren't.(Most of the ones attracted to the liars have since gotten divorces....)

Think what your friends will think when your oh-so-proudly unvaccinated child catches H1N1 and dies.

If you want to talk about risk...how about weighing the reasons why the makers of the vaccine insist on immunity from prosecution over any safety problems? They want to make the money off the vaccine but take no legal risk at all and the U.S. Gov. agencies there to protect us instead support the vaccine makers by giving them immunity... same way they support the banks, credit card companies, etc..over the interests of you and me.

Didn't Robert F.Kennedy write about thermerisol in Rolling Stone a long time ago and his research and the story were partly the reason they stopped putting it into certain child vaccines? Wasn't it true that they ended up shipping the batches with that ingredient outside the U.S. because of concerns about continuing to use it here?

Check out Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s article from 2005 in Rolling Stone called Deadly Immunity

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/73...

Rational approach wrote:

Kaiser got its own access to the vaccine, but it wasn't a "priority" over health departments--just a separate distribution channel. Of course, Kaiser did quickly complete its forms and submit its information. I wonder what county bureaucrat sat on the forms for Marin and other counties, and how much time has been spent by politicos trying to figure out how to benefit from the "public" distribution channel.
A good reporting project for the I-J would be finding out what dates which paperwork was completed and submitted--but that might involve hard work, like submitting open records act requests and the like.

This is our government at work for us. Isn't it interesting that we're talking about Health Care Reform & the need for a Public Option while at the same time having problems with distributing the H1N1 vaccine? That these stories are running parallel right now should be an eye-opener for what we really need reformed and just how ineffective our government agencies are at handling these big health care issues.

Rational approach wrote:

"anti in marin":
Yes, this vaccine does contain Thimerosal, but whether you choose to believe the respected scholars on this subject (virtually no risk) or the little industry of witchcraft which has sprung up around trying to convince parents of autistic children that "something" caused the autism, is up to you.
In my view, two facts are plain:
First, no lifestyle on this planet will prevent exposure to some traces of mercury, which is the alleged neurotoxin component of Thimerosal. The effect of one Thimerosal-preserved vaccination is truly minimal.
Second, no lifestyle on this planet is absolutely risk-free. The risk of children contracting H1N1 is very real and many deaths have resulted. The risk of a Thimerosal-preserved vaccination is minor if not totally a fraud. You have to make a choice.
Some people will always believe the smooth talking charlatans. I learned long ago that some were attracted to those perpetrating lies that made people feel better, and some weren't.(Most of the ones attracted to the liars have since gotten divorces....)
Think what your friends will think when your oh-so-proudly unvaccinated child catches H1N1 and dies.

The sheer volume of concentrated bullsh!t spewing from your post is nearly unfathomable. I can't believe how many morons are panicing about swine flu and fighting over who gets vaccinated. If swine flu is so deadly how come the death rate of people hospitalized with common influenza in the US is 18%, while the death rate of diagnosed H1N1 in the US is less than 8%?

Wanna know why it's made out to be such a big deal? Cuz it sells newspapers! The media will blow anything out of proportion, as long as it gets morons like you all foaming at the mouth and fighting eachother to inject yourself with an experimental chemical.

You only need to be worried if you are a young child, and/or have a respritory condition. Otherwise relax, it's a freaking flu. You'll feel crappy for a week then shake it off and go back to work.

Well, maybe the vaccines will cripple all the morons, and the rest of us will call it natural selection.

Charles,

Interesting that you call my post BS, but don't refute my basic point: young children are at risk, and parents have a choice to make between relative risks. You even agree with me about young children being at risk.

I agree that there is lopsided attention on this issue from the media as compared to "normal" flu, but I also don't think it should become a platform for the industry that supports itself by fearmongering vaccines....

As for natural selection, the epidemics among the unvaccinated will work more effectively in that manner than trace amounts of mercury ever will....

Charles wrote:

You only need to be worried if you are a young child, and/or have a respritory condition. Otherwise relax, it's a freaking flu.

Perhaps the people who are clamoring for the vaccine *are* parents of young children.

Or perhaps they have respiratory conditions.

Or perhaps they're parents of young children WITH respiratory conditions. Like my child, whose asthma is triggered specifically by respiratory infections, and who has landed in the hospital due to a cold. A little friend is even more sensitive. There are some kids who simply CANNOT be allowed to get H1N1.

If you're going to use the term "morons" three times in one post, you might want to pause and make certain you've thought through this matter. There are some highly educated folks out there who are clamoring for H1N1 vaccine as the result of perfectly rational risk/reward calculations.

Whether or not you want the vaccine, as a citizen, you should be able to get it.
Santa Cruz County, with about a quarter-million population, received 28,640 doses, while Marin County, with the same population, received 4,000.
Please make some noise.

Parent in High Risk Group wrote:

Whether or not you want the vaccine, as a citizen, you should be able to get it.
Santa Cruz County, with about a quarter-million population, received 28,640 doses, while Marin County, with the same population, received 4,000.
Please make some noise.

Gee, why isn't this obviously the President's fault? A year ago it would have been....

Rational approach wrote:

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Gee, why isn't this obviously the President's fault? A year ago it would have been....

How true, how true indeed.