Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

Please use your bow & arrows on target boards. Compare totals, have a great time. But not on beautiful living creatures.
Why cause all that pain, death and call it sport.

yet another steaming pile of uneducated chicken scratch
from the murder capitol paper of the state
when deer are shot in the vitals they seldom live more than
3-8 minutes if that in most cases

This is exactly why Mr. Lamp should not sit on any board. His lack of knowlege about bowhunting and his anti hunting/animal rights agenda influence his decissions long before any facts are considered. Referring to Bill Burton as a reference is a joke, his expierience of the outdoors comes from magazines and stories heard at the local bar.

First of all, this guy doesnt even know what he is talking about. Being on the MDNR board, he should know that deer season doesnt even start until saturday, not friday. You would think he would know when the season's are? Deer being shot in the head? Obviously he didnt do much research, because he would know that nobody shoots a deer in the head.

Since you are a fair and balanced newspaper, i am sure that you will be having a hunter submit the facts to support hunting also.

Mr. Lamp your article starts off wrong, the season begins on Saturday! You are on the Wildlife Advisory Commission correct? I thought you would....ok never mind! Deer that are killed for consumption are dead within 10 seconds normally. The very few that get "wounded" is a fraction of what gets "wounded" and maimed by your BMW's in your rich little communities that don't allow hunting! You want the deer to not suffer Mr. Lamb? Step down from your position at the DNR and let someone with a good grasp of REALITY take your position. You're a college professor I see! hmnn... Well that answers that question!

End bow hunting? As soon as firearm season opens up I am sure that the author of this "article" will be writing another calling for the end of firearm hunting as well because it is not sportsmanlike because the deer do not have a chance. In that article she will probably say that we should be hunting like the native American - with a bow and arrow because at least the deer have a chance to get away. Does she realize that if we do not hunt deer that they will overpopulate and will begin to die of starvation and malnutrition. Additionally, overpopulation of deer leads to a huge increase in the number of deer-car collisions. Furthermore, if you have to hunt in an area that is populated, it is far safer for the people around you if the hunting is done with a bow and arrow. Deer have been hunted with bows and arrows for thousands of years. It is not cruel. It is not inhumane. It is how some members of our society choose to get food. We are at the top of the food chain (most of the time) and the deer are a little farther down. That's the natural order of things.

Another misguided fool who truly has no understanding of bow hunting yet spews his opinion and error prone statements as facts.

rob b wrote:

yet another steaming pile of uneducated chicken scratch
from the murder capitol paper of the state
when deer are shot in the vitals they seldom live more than
3-8 seconds if that in most cases

I made a mistake in my previuos writng
most deer expire within 3-8 seconds NOT minutes
sorry for any trouble this may have caused

Dr. Lamp should stick to writing about subjects he knows something about and not bowhunting, wildlife management, or Whitetailed Deer. His article is full of inaccurate hearsay and outright falsehoods. Hunting has been, and remains, the most humane, effective management of our deer herd. Those who wish to take the time to learn the truth about Bowhunitng will find it is nothing like Dr. Lamp describes, and is the best option to reduce the deer herd in urban areas where firearms cannot be discharged. Deer/vehicle collisions, overbrowsing that leads to starvation of these animals is what Dr. Lamp and other like-mided folks seem to prefer to hunting. Did I mention that when A deer is harvested by a hunter the venison, which is delicious by the way, does not go to waste? In fact thousands of pounds are donated by hunters each year and help feed those who are less fortunate among us.

Yes, by all means leave the deer alone.

Then, they can all die of starvation, disease, predation, or impacts with automobiles... the way nature intended.

And if more people have to die in deer-related car wrecks, or contract lyme disease thanks to deer overpopulation, that's too bad.

Of course, surely the state can afford millions of dollars to fund deer birth-control programs with limited, dubious effectiveness and with unknown environmental consequences - right? I mean, please... don't we have a huge budget surplus or something?

Or, maybe we could just let the hunters do their job - without interference from myopic, misguided anti-hunting activists whose real agenda is driven primarily by anti-hunter animosity, and not out of any real concern for wild animals that they claim they want to "protect".

"Nevertheless, Maryland's hunters - a mere 3 percent to 4 percent of the state's population - hold the purse strings, the votes and the political clout"

Please don't discount the large number of Marylanders who fully support hunting but don't do so themselves.

Maryland's season of cruelty: winter - deer starving season.

Once again Dr. Lamp lets personal opinion and emotion override sound wildlife management practices. His personal distaste for bowhunting is well documented, although not as well documented as the fact that bowhunting is a viable tool in the professional wildlife manager's arsenal for controlling the population of whitetail deer. Especially in areas of high human density where hunting with firearms is prohibited.
The sad fact is that Dr. Lamp has probably never witnessed a clean archery kill. If he had, he would know that a razor-sharp broadhead that penetrates both lungs will cause such a rapid drop in blood pressure that a deer will fall unconscious in less then twenty seconds and be dead in under a minute. Dr. Lamp likes to use "facts" such as hunters waiting from thirty minutes up to three and four hours after the shot to track deer, is indicative of a bow's insufficient killing power. What Dr. Lamp fails to understand is that ethical hunters will always wait a proscribed amount of time before following game that has been arrowed, on the pretext that it is better to allow the game to expire without the threat of being pursued. It may be hard for most non-hunters to accept, but a deer that is dead on it's feet can run well over one hundred yards before expiring. Most bowhunters prefer that the deer wander off less than 50 yards without being pressured, and are willing to exercise the caution and patience required to ensure that the game is found.
Bowhunting is a well-known and accepted method of deer hunting utilized by every state game department or commission in the United States. Certainly they must know something that Dr. Lamp does not. At the mimimum, they use facts and research, not emotions and personal opinion, as concerns the management of wild game.

Lamp's right you know,they are beautiful creatures and I for one could never kill any thing so beautiful. I love deer----I think they taste great.

In a state where gun hunting is all but banned and liberal fools abound, the Archer only real defense against the whitetail deer. If you would take a look at the hunting regulations in MD, the firearm season is all of 17 days per year, and modern firearms are banned in all of the central MD counties. If not for the archer how do you propose to control the problems that deer present: crop and property damage, vehicle accidents, not to mention the vector for lyme disease and the threat of Chronic Wasting Disease which is knocking on our borders due to over populations.
Maryland has started a new program of Bowhunter education, which I pray will become mandatory, that not only improves an archers skills at tracking, shot placement, and ethics, but it and test profiency which is the real reason that deer injuries and wounds occur.
If your issue is to prevent wounding of deer, GREAT, I support you in every way... But your article meets my every expectation of the media, quick to point out opinionated problems but fail to support your argument with the counter point or any other intelligible evidence, much less provide a solution. You state that "bow hunting does not support clean kills" which is a completely false. As the state would not and does not support ANY method of hunting that does not provide clean, quick, and therefore ethical taking of game animals. This is why there are regulations for shot type, size, and weapon power.
Its too bad that your opinion will fall on deaf ears due to your arrogance and ignorance of the real issues.

I can't believe you would print this!

If what you state above is true, let's take a moment to look at the number of wounded deer running around as a result of people driving too fast and hitting deer! How about putting your efforts into slowing these people down instead of going after a small group of people that are trying to help stave off large scale starvation because of people like you that, other than spouting obsurdities about archers wounding deer, you keep the season bag limits so tight that we get a population explosion? Then you have the audacity to whine about the deer eating your precious azalias and running into your expensive little car.

How many deer have you yourself wounded with your BMW? Did you offer the poor, suffering deer any relief or did you, as most people, drive on complaining about how much it was going to cost to repair your expensive gas guzzler? Yeah, I thought so.

You are so misinformed as to what happens to a majority of the deer after being shot with an arrow. I can tell you, being a professional hunter, an instructor of most hunting disciplines, that 99% of my deer harvested with a bow expire within 30 yards of the place they were shot - they expire before they have any idea what happened.

You really need to stop taking out of context bits and pieces of articles that support your argument, seeking out only those people that support your argument, and report the truth. The only effective way to control urban deer populations as we have in the Greater D.C. Metropolitan area is with a bow - not snipers. Would you rather have large scale starvation?

You, sir, are an idiot. Get out and learn first-hand what goes on in the woods, or are you as so many others afraid of the truth and dislike the heat, the cold, and the bugs?

It's a shame a man with the "educational credentials" that Dr. Lamp has can't seperate emotion from fact. We've all seen what can happen when things are "governed" by emotion as opposed to sound judgement based on facts.

Sorry, Joe but I think you are a little off base on your comments. Bow hunting whitetail deer is a very important aspect in proper wildlife management. Through the use of modern bow hunting equipment in proper hands, deer die quickly of a well placed shot by the archer. Please research the available information before writing such a slanted article.

This is rediculous! That all i can say

Your comments are not supported by any facts and are inaccurate. I can't believe that a commissioner of the DNR wildlife advisory would print such poor information. He didnt even get the season opener date correct!