Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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how ever thing started from the beginning.nothing created ever thing.but their no such thing as nothing.but you got have it for ever thing.now ever thing where did it come from.? nothing...then why wary about it only god knows this any ways.so why try to figure it out? i think the bible is a instruction book for man kind put here by our maker.the way to live the best and healthiest and the way you can enjoy this small little time we have here on the earth...
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<quoted text>I can judge you now LIAR! Our forefathers found it so important to protect us from the christian cult that they made the first thing in the Constitution freedom from religion, the first thing stated in the Treaty of Tripoli is that America was NOT founded on christian beliefs and the pledge was changed in the 1950's which is when the motto was put on money. NOW YOU HAVE SHOWN YOUR TRUE SELF LIAR!
Actually freedom "of" religion is a constitutionally guaranteed right of the First Amendment. I noticed you wrote freedom "from" religion which has a totally different meaning. It also states Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof. This was a means of separating church and state and ensuring a national church could not be established and to ensure no religion would benefit over another. Four of those involved in creating the constitution were ministers and several others were sons of ministers. The vast majority belonged to a church and considered themselves Christians.

The purpose of making that statement in the Treaty of Tripoli was based on separation of church and state. "No pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interuption of harmony existing between the two countries". As this was a treaty between two countries, they had to ensure this separation.

The Pilgrims who came to America on the Mayflower were seeking freedom of religion and escape from religious persecution. They sought a new life in America where they could practice religion in the manner they chose.

I will not lower myself to call you names. That is part of your problem. You can't just state your point of view. You must call people names and be totally disrespectful of anyone elses views or opinions.

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how ever thing started from the beginning.nothing created ever thing.but their no such thing as nothing.but you got have it for ever thing.now ever thing where did it come from.? nothing...then why wary about it only god knows this any ways.so why try to figure it out? i think the bible is a instruction book for man kind put here by our maker.the way to live the best and healthiest and the way you can enjoy this small little time we have here on the earth...
Every number from 1 on is counted from 0. If you ever got as far as algebra in school, you learned about null sets and empty sets.
Religion is still stuck at Roman numerals, so even the concept of zero is tough.

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Actually freedom "of" religion is a constitutionally guaranteed right of the First Amendment. I noticed you wrote freedom "from" religion which has a totally different meaning. It also states Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof. This was a means of separating church and state and ensuring a national church could not be established and to ensure no religion would benefit over another. Four of those involved in creating the constitution were ministers and several others were sons of ministers. The vast majority belonged to a church and considered themselves Christians.
The purpose of making that statement in the Treaty of Tripoli was based on separation of church and state. "No pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interuption of harmony existing between the two countries". As this was a treaty between two countries, they had to ensure this separation.
The Pilgrims who came to America on the Mayflower were seeking freedom of religion and escape from religious persecution. They sought a new life in America where they could practice religion in the manner they chose.
I will not lower myself to call you names. That is part of your problem. You can't just state your point of view. You must call people names and be totally disrespectful of anyone elses views or opinions.
I had ancestors on the Mayflower. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the puritans the ones who murdered people as witches? And again, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't teaching the New Testament in schools violate the religious rights of non-Christians?

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<quoted text>I know hell and beheading, truth will get you killed every time.
Just gota learn to duck & weave, duck & weave....
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Everyone that wants religion taught in school wants it to be christianity taught. To be fair and not be sued for discrimination all faiths would be taught. Which version of christianity do you want taught? Look into exactly what our founding fathers thought about religion and government seperation.
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Everyone that wants religion taught in school wants it to be christianity taught. To be fair and not be sued for discrimination all faiths would be taught. Which version of christianity do you want taught? Look into exactly what our founding fathers thought about religion and government seperation.
Fox-news would like Catholicism. The Mormon needed help were else would you go.

Catholic Church hires Fox News reporter to help craft PR efforts.

Fox News Priest: HHS is “Raping” the First Amendment.

Does the Catholic Church get a tax deduction for that?

Is the Catholic Church the only true church?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/27/1103...

http://www.faithinpubliclife.org/blog/fox-new...
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<quoted text>"sigh" So everyone should have to accept it?
The Nazi salute’s origin in the USA's Pledge of Allegiance

Bellamy believed that government schools with pledges and flags were needed to brainwash children to embrace nationalism, militarism, and socialism.

As under Nazism, children in the USA (including Jehovah's Witnesses and blacks and the Jewish and others) attended government schools where segregation was imposed by law, where racism was taught as official policy, and where they were required by law to perform the Nazi salute and robotically chant a pledge to a flag.

If they refused, then they were persecuted and expelled from government schools and had to use the many better alternatives. There were also acts of physical violence.

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How the jews treat christians in israel?

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how ever thing started from the beginning.nothing created ever thing.but their no such thing as nothing.but you got have it for ever thing.now ever thing where did it come from.? nothing...then why wary about it only god knows this any ways.so why try to figure it out? i think the bible is a instruction book for man kind put here by our maker.the way to live the best and healthiest and the way you can enjoy this small little time we have here on the earth...
Clearly the bible is not an instruction book of how to write in English.

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Actually freedom "of" religion is a constitutionally guaranteed right of the First Amendment. I noticed you wrote freedom "from" religion which has a totally different meaning. It also states Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof. This was a means of separating church and state and ensuring a national church could not be established and to ensure no religion would benefit over another. Four of those involved in creating the constitution were ministers and several others were sons of ministers. The vast majority belonged to a church and considered themselves Christians.
The purpose of making that statement in the Treaty of Tripoli was based on separation of church and state. "No pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interuption of harmony existing between the two countries". As this was a treaty between two countries, they had to ensure this separation.
The Pilgrims who came to America on the Mayflower were seeking freedom of religion and escape from religious persecution. They sought a new life in America where they could practice religion in the manner they chose.
I will not lower myself to call you names. That is part of your problem. You can't just state your point of view. You must call people names and be totally disrespectful of anyone elses views or opinions.
If you have freedom of religion you have the right to be free from religion as well.
I hate it when you christians keep lying. Our founding fathers where not christians and they where against the church.
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers...
read their words on religion. Most of them where agnostic, believing in a suprem being but not the christian version.(how I am)
It is also a lie that the people came here for religious freedom, SOME DID, but MOST came here for financial reasons.
If history is to be told it should be told truthfully, the majority of the people on the mayflower where not christians and did not join the mayflower compact.
Name calling? Stop lying and trying to force your cult on every part of society and I will stop telling people the truth about your cult.
We should teach Satanism in public schools and Muslim, Buddhism, Hinduism anything except the hate filled violence loving christian cult!

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Everyone that wants religion taught in school wants it to be christianity taught. To be fair and not be sued for discrimination all faiths would be taught. Which version of christianity do you want taught? Look into exactly what our founding fathers thought about religion and government seperation.
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/ foundingfathers.html

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Actually freedom "of" religion is a constitutionally guaranteed right of the First Amendment. I noticed you wrote freedom "from" religion which has a totally different meaning. It also states Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof. This was a means of separating church and state and ensuring a national church could not be established and to ensure no religion would benefit over another. Four of those involved in creating the constitution were ministers and several others were sons of ministers. The vast majority belonged to a church and considered themselves Christians.
The purpose of making that statement in the Treaty of Tripoli was based on separation of church and state. "No pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interuption of harmony existing between the two countries". As this was a treaty between two countries, they had to ensure this separation.
The Pilgrims who came to America on the Mayflower were seeking freedom of religion and escape from religious persecution. They sought a new life in America where they could practice religion in the manner they chose.
I will not lower myself to call you names. That is part of your problem. You can't just state your point of view. You must call people names and be totally disrespectful of anyone elses views or opinions.
Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion is the freedom 'from' religion we speak of. Of course you do not see it as that, but that is your opinion and nothing more.
Many of our founders were not Christian at all. But that is not the issue. They were secularists. Even someone who is Christian can be secular and understand the need for separation of church and state. And that separation is more than what you see it as. Any injection of religion by government infringes upon someones freedom of religion. If the school is reciting the lords prayer in the protestant version, it can infringe upon the freedom of Catholics, Jews, Hindu's, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists and agnostics.

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Are you kidding said "The purpose of making that statement in the Treaty of Tripoli was based on separation of church and state. "No pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interuption of harmony existing between the two countries". As this was a treaty between two countries, they had to ensure this separation."

No, since the people who made freedom of religion the first item on the Constitution said "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

I am sure that the intent is that America is not founded on the christian cult.
Of course most people went to church then as the christian cult KILLED any one who did not go to church. That does not mean that they believed your cults lies, just that they did not want to get killed.(proving again that your cult is evil)

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how ever thing started from the beginning.nothing created ever thing.but their no such thing as nothing.but you got have it for ever thing.now ever thing where did it come from.? nothing...then why wary about it only god knows this any ways.so why try to figure it out? i think the bible is a instruction book for man kind put here by our maker.the way to live the best and healthiest and the way you can enjoy this small little time we have here on the earth...
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"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
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how ever thing started from the beginning.nothing created ever thing.but their no such thing as nothing.but you got have it for ever thing.now ever thing where did it come from.? nothing...then why wary about it only god knows this any ways.so why try to figure it out? i think the bible is a instruction book for man kind put here by our maker.the way to live the best and healthiest and the way you can enjoy this small little time we have here on the earth...
ill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
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AND YOU WONDER WHY I DO NOT WANT THIS TAUGHT TO LITTLE KIDS???

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There are over 7 billion people living on Earth. The Earth "weighs" 6.6 sextillion (20 zeros)tons. Sol is a small sun, yet it contains 99.8% of the mass of the solar system. There are roughly 300 billion other stars in our galaxy, and there are roughly 90 billion other galaxies in the observable universe, which is estimated to be over 14 billion years old. The farthest detectable object is over 13 billion light years away.
You believe that Satan has rigged this as a joke on humanity to drag his quota of souls into a lake of fire? Oh, Oookaay...
If there is a Creator of this incomprehensible unimaginable unfathomable vastness, you think that "He" is defined by a handful of Jewish stories and that I should meet with Him one day.
Oh, Oookaay....?
But, hey no problem - It's just silly me rolling my eyes. yeeesh...!

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The arrogance of Christians and their needy self serving "I have to save man-kind" bullchit makes me want to vomit. There are many many many REAL causes to get involved in than pushing salvation in an after life. Get a life losers!
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<quoted text>If you have freedom of religion you have the right to be free from religion as well.
I hate it when you christians keep lying. Our founding fathers where not christians and they where against the church.
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers...
read their words on religion. Most of them where agnostic, believing in a suprem being but not the christian version.(how I am)
It is also a lie that the people came here for religious freedom, SOME DID, but MOST came here for financial reasons.
If history is to be told it should be told truthfully, the majority of the people on the mayflower where not christians and did not join the mayflower compact.
Name calling? Stop lying and trying to force your cult on every part of society and I will stop telling people the truth about your cult.
We should teach Satanism in public schools and Muslim, Buddhism, Hinduism anything except the hate filled violence loving christian cult!
My original comments were not in defense of teaching Christianity or any other religion in school. My original defense relates to the continued name calling and bashing of Christianity. Do you need to agree with me? No, of course not. I also am not required to agree with you. I have said this numerous times. You have every right to believe in whatever you wish and as strongly as you wish. I really don't care what you believe. I DO care when you attack religion and Christianity. I do not attack you. I am not trying to force anything on you, but I will defend what I believe in.

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My original comments were not in defense of teaching Christianity or any other religion in school. My original defense relates to the continued name calling and bashing of Christianity. Do you need to agree with me? No, of course not. I also am not required to agree with you. I have said this numerous times. You have every right to believe in whatever you wish and as strongly as you wish. I really don't care what you believe. I DO care when you attack religion and Christianity. I do not attack you. I am not trying to force anything on you, but I will defend what I believe in.
And I am not attacking you. I will however attack the vast majority of christians who lie about what we do, especially when what they claim we do is what the christian religion has a history of doing, and attack us including threats of violence.
One thing, while many christins may be good people, they want to claim that christian religion is good and every other religion is bad with out knowing or choosing to ignore the actions of the christian religion and the horrors done in the name of the christian religion.

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