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created by: wanting to know | Jan 12, 2009
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srry for the typo it should have said if taught any thing thatis god made adam and eve not adam and steve .
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So it's OK to be prejudice against gays but you better not be racist against blacks... do you make an exception if they are gay blacks?
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Shocked, if you're going to make a sarcastic point, at least spell it right...dumb...but I do agree with you.
Human rights people. That is what is being taught. |
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why wouls we want to teach are kids to be lick a likes ?
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This is for "To Ism- if you look at the name of the person who posted before me, their name is "dum people". I know how to spell dumb.
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I am no means religious but did god not tell us we are not to judge someone because it is up to him to hold final judgment? |
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First, the phrase "gay rights" needs to be defined. I would list them as being the same rights others enjoy. For example, not being denied a job or being demoted or fired from one simply because you're GLBT (gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered). Being allowed to live where you want, instead of being denied a house or apartment because of your sexuality. Serving in the military, getting the same insurance benefits for both same- AND opposite sex couples (present Ohio law doesn't allow that with the Defense of Marriage Act we passed a few years ago). Being able to inherit, or adopt, or make medical decisions for a partner, etc. These are legislative goals and much as I'd like to see them passed, they shouldn't be taught unless they were part of a civics class on current events and issues in high school.
As Just My 02 says, what needs to be taught is tolerance and respect for others. Differences don't matter. As the semanticist Korzybski said, "A difference which makes no difference IS no difference." But we adults often hate based on supposed "differences" of race, religion, even where we live in a big city ("they live on the wrong side of the tracks"). Children aren't born hating others. And we shouldn't teach them to do so. Instead let them know that in the global community they will meet people of many cultures, religious beliefs, political and/or economic systems, sexual orientations and so on. See them as people, not as someone to be disliked because they aren't a carbon copy of us. |
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1 part of the learning process. ITS READING,WRITING and ARITHMETIC that has gotten me through life.... not gay rights. |
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1 This country began from a struggle for rights. The Pilgrims reportedly came here to escape religious persecution in England. We broke away from England for many reasons. One of them was we didn't like how the Crown arbitrarily decided that we had to pay taxes, what items would be taxed, and what the rates were, and we had no say in the matter. We fought the War of 1812 because England was stopping our ships at sea and forcing American sailors to work on English vessels ("impressment"). We fought the War with the Barbary Pirates because we weren't going to pay bribes in order to trade commercially in the Mediterreanen. We fought the Civil War over slavery--a civil rights issue. Many wars were over someone trying to dominate other nations (the Kaiser, Hitler, the Communists in Korea and Vietnam, Saddam Hussein). Again and again we have stood up for the underdog. Paradoxically we've screwed virtually every religious, racial, and ethnic group that's been here already (Native Americans), came here (Italians, Irish, Chinese, to name a few) or been brought here (blacks). So when those groups later agitated for civil rights, peacefully or not, we brought the social upheaval on ourselves. 100 years or so ago (I'd have to find the exact date) YOU couldn't vote, handle your own property (it became your husband's automatically), many career paths were blocked, and your destiny was to marry, keep house, and perform your "wifely duty" by giving your husband at least one son. If you worked, it was only by economic necessity or because the woman was considered too unappealing to get married and became an "old maid." Maybe you'd like to return to those days? Another little tidbit: when anesthesia was used in childbirth, religious MALE authorities forbade it, citing Genesis 3:16 ("...in sorrow shalt thou bring forth thy children..."). Fun, huh? All those wars and struggles are part of our history. It shows we made mistakes as a nation and are atoning for them. Some people would probably like to forget our past. Should we refuse to teach some of our history because some people would find it embarrassing or inconvenient? The gay rights struggle is another part of our history. The Stonewall Riot of 1969 was as important to gays as the Boston Tea Party was to anti-tax Americans. It deserves to be taught in our history classes as one more example of a wrong being righted in a democratic society. |
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penman , why do you think they call them "gays" they are a sick breed ,they've been around since bibical days, God frowns on them.Go ahead "BE DIFFERENT ,BE WIERD , BUT STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ME
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If teaching kids to be tolerant of others is supposed to be taught in school, then gay rights should be too. After all, we teach kids to respect other regardless of race or religion, don't we?
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