4 People Stabbed Outside Garfield Heights Bar

Ok the guys past has nothing to do with what happened that night. The video shows clearly that it is self defense. So saying that guy should go to jail for the rest of his life is pure ignorance which is just what you are ignorant. Wanna be tough guys should get their act together before they actually meet people who don't just play around. How would you like your brothers past to be talked about because i'm sure it's not the first time they had tried to be bad ass and start a fight at a bar.

So they were at the bar not even drinking,? Please then why didn't they watch the game at home. They were all drunk that's the only reason you go to a bar. Especially when it is that late.

aggravated wrote:

It doesnt matter if i spell wrong. The point is if you dont know what you're talking about shut your mouth. Just because people go to bars does not mean anything about their character. The people that had this done to them are good people and they started no trouble what so ever. The dude was a piece of crap and needs to go back to jail obviously. All of you people are telling me you have never went to a bar which is a lie and that you have never gotten into a fight? People like you make the world a crappy place. Them boys were just out watching a basketball game you know the lovely cavaliers and not doing anything wrong. I even know that the boys were not even drunk so just because you go to a bar does not mean that your looking for trouble. You're telling me that if some dude was making rude advances toward your woman or wife or whatever that you would not do something about the situation thats lie. That even goes for women. I know for a fact that I would stick up for the one I love if some other woman was making rude advances toward the one I love.

aggravated wrote:

It doesnt matter if i spell wrong. The point is if you dont know what you're talking about shut your mouth. Just because people go to bars does not mean anything about their character. The people that had this done to them are good people and they started no trouble what so ever. The dude was a piece of crap and needs to go back to jail obviously. All of you people are telling me you have never went to a bar which is a lie and that you have never gotten into a fight? People like you make the world a crappy place. Them boys were just out watching a basketball game you know the lovely cavaliers and not doing anything wrong. I even know that the boys were not even drunk so just because you go to a bar does not mean that your looking for trouble. You're telling me that if some dude was making rude advances toward your woman or wife or whatever that you would not do something about the situation thats lie. That even goes for women. I know for a fact that I would stick up for the one I love if some other woman was making rude advances toward the one I love.

Here's the thing...why the f*** would the three people chase him outside and hold him down on a car and choke him and attack him if he had a KNIFE????!!!! They were ganging up on him...period...end of story. They just so happened to gang up on the WRONG DUDE that night. He isnt completely innocent and neither are the idiots who went running after the "crazy guy with the knife who was stabbing everyone for no reason" And if you wanna get into fights at bars then be prepared to deal with it. I feel bad for the kid that got hurt but him and his boys shouldn't have surrounded someone and made him feel like he had no choice but to defend himself...he was alone and ganged up on...thats all i"m saying. He didnt need to go that far, but i do think he was defending himself. I do know the situation and I do know those involved and I have the right to speak my mind. WATCH THE TAPE...HE WAS BEING ATTACKED!!!!! HE WASNT CHASING PEOPLE AROUND STABBING THEM! THEY WERE ON TOP OF HIM!!!! HELLLOOOOOO???????

Thank you i agree with you one hundred percent!!!! People need to watch the tape and see he's the one being attacked. You don't see that guy chasing after anyone.

annoyed wrote:

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Here's the thing...why the f*** would the three people chase him outside and hold him down on a car and choke him and attack him if he had a KNIFE????!!!! They were ganging up on him...period...end of story. They just so happened to gang up on the WRONG DUDE that night. He isnt completely innocent and neither are the idiots who went running after the "crazy guy with the knife who was stabbing everyone for no reason" And if you wanna get into fights at bars then be prepared to deal with it. I feel bad for the kid that got hurt but him and his boys shouldn't have surrounded someone and made him feel like he had no choice but to defend himself...he was alone and ganged up on...thats all i"m saying. He didnt need to go that far, but i do think he was defending himself. I do know the situation and I do know those involved and I have the right to speak my mind. WATCH THE TAPE...HE WAS BEING ATTACKED!!!!! HE WASNT CHASING PEOPLE AROUND STABBING THEM! THEY WERE ON TOP OF HIM!!!! HELLLOOOOOO???????

The guy who did this is nothing but a drug dealing looser. He just got out of prison about 7 months ago after doing 9 years for drugs and he does this. The streets are much safer with this animal off the streets.

This is to "really"
You dont know what your talking about. What they are showing online is not the whole tape. You need to see the tape of inside the bar where he pulls the knife out like a nut and starts trying to stab people. They finally get him outside and thats when you see it looks like its self defense, but its not. If you know jason you know he's a nut job. Just thank god he didnt have a gun or there would be four dead people. The thing that gets me is that he's a pussy if he doesnt have a gun or a knife he's all talk. he has to have a gun or knife or bat to be a tough guy he aint shit never has been anything never will be anything but a punk PERIOD..

WOW! You only need to watch the video once to see he is being attacked!
I have known this man my whole life! It looks to me like he was being jumped! Yes he just got out of jail and he was on parol. He would of not done this if he didn't feel threatend and risk going back to prison.

Um I do know what I'm talking About. Your apparently the one who doesn't know anything. That man has a family and is a great guy. So maybe you should think about what you say unless you actually know someone. Again I will say watch the video you are blind if you think it's his fault.

And Jason is not a punk. Those guys had picked up a chair inside of the bar and tried to hit him. Let's see you get jumped by four or more people that girls boyfriend is a punk apparently having to get everyone attack him.

You are not god so do not judge. End of story

phauquer wrote:

The guy who did this is nothing but a drug dealing looser. He just got out of prison about 7 months ago after doing 9 years for drugs and he does this. The streets are much safer with this animal off the streets.

You obviously are a saint and never did anything wrong in your life!!!!
He has been out of prison for much longer than 7 months and he served his time for the crime he committed! He clearly was being attacked!!! These men had no business putting their hands on him especially 3 on 1! I feel very sorry for you and your ignorance!

Queen Nut wrote:

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Sure it matters how you spell. You can't spell, makes you look ignorant. And you hang out in bars, you get what comes. I don't hang out in bars, so the likelihood if me being stabbed or beaten up is slim. And I am sure the one you love could handle himself. Rude advances? Oh please. There is the thug mentality. I don't like what you are doing so I am going to beat you up. Ever consider just walking away because it isn't worth what might happen? I thought not.

Queen Nut is so smart! I guess you went to Harvard huh? Ha, what a joke! Well since you have no life and you stay at home and drink your pathetic life away and pray you're one of the trillion people to win the lottery you should try to stay out of things you have no clue about. But wait, you went to Harvard! You don't need to win the lottery! Good luck with your pathetic life! Hope things go well with you and your box of wine! Thug mentality...what a joke...

aggrevated wrote:

My brother was one of the people that was in this arguement. People that dont know what they are talking about on here need to shut up..That dude is a peice of crap and he should go to jail for the rest of his life..My friends and family that were there could have gotten killed..People that do **** like that need to just stay the hell home..The dude that did the stabbing just got of jail for drug charges..He is a peice of **** and needs to rot in jail...

Im sorry your brother and his buddies decided to jump someone and he had to defend himself! He is not a piece of ****! His past has nothing to do with being attacked!!!!

Like I said, you hang out in bars, you deserve whatever happens. White trash, black trash. Doesn't matter.

aggravated wrote:

It doesnt matter if i spell wrong. The point is if you dont know what you're talking about shut your mouth. Just because people go to bars does not mean anything about their character. The people that had this done to them are good people and they started no trouble what so ever. The dude was a piece of crap and needs to go back to jail obviously. All of you people are telling me you have never went to a bar which is a lie and that you have never gotten into a fight? People like you make the world a crappy place. Them boys were just out watching a basketball game you know the lovely cavaliers and not doing anything wrong. I even know that the boys were not even drunk so just because you go to a bar does not mean that your looking for trouble. You're telling me that if some dude was making rude advances toward your woman or wife or whatever that you would not do something about the situation thats lie. That even goes for women. I know for a fact that I would stick up for the one I love if some other woman was making rude advances toward the one I love.

My boy went to that school and knows how to spell and read. He learned a long time ago if he wants a drink to go to a nice restaurant and have one with his meal in a place that doesn't have the group that frequents Venture Inn.
The big joke there is "I'm not an alcoholic I'm a drunk because I don't go to meeting." Yes, I went in there once freezing from the cold when my car broke down one day in the early 3 pm day yrs ago. It was freezing cold and went in and saw about 8 guys sitting over their drinks blinded from the winter sun when I opened the door. What idiots drinking at 3 pm in the afternoon GET A LIFE PEOPLE.

Really wrote:

Um I do know what I'm talking About. Your apparently the one who doesn't know anything. That man has a family and is a great guy. So maybe you should think about what you say unless you actually know someone. Again I will say watch the video you are blbind if you think it's his fault.

You must be related to him if you think he's a great guy. He's been in trouble since he came out of his mother. Once again we are all safer with him locked up.

aggravated wrote:

It doesnt matter if i spell wrong. The point is if you dont know what you're talking about shut your mouth. Just because people go to bars does not mean anything about their character. The people that had this done to them are good people and they started no trouble what so ever. The dude was a piece of crap and needs to go back to jail obviously. All of you people are telling me you have never went to a bar which is a lie and that you have never gotten into a fight? People like you make the world a crappy place. Them boys were just out watching a basketball game you know the lovely cavaliers and not doing anything wrong. I even know that the boys were not even drunk so just because you go to a bar does not mean that your looking for trouble. You're telling me that if some dude was making rude advances toward your woman or wife or whatever that you would not do something about the situation thats lie. That even goes for women. I know for a fact that I would stick up for the one I love if some other woman was making rude advances toward the one I love.

First off, this is an open forum where anybody can say what they want about anything, just as you are. Secondly, I can honestly say I have never been in a bar and I have never gotten into a fight (physically, just verbally). More often than not, bars attract a certain type of people and activities that are not healthy and, yes, I can say that without ever having stepped foot in a bar because these people eventually have to come out. Therein lies the problem for the rest of society. And I never buy the "We were just watching the game" excuse -- they could've done that at home, but didn't have the "refreshments" obviously. As far as someone making rude advances, well, what did she expect? She's in a bar, surrounded by drunk men who are obviously "not thinking clearly"!?!? I live next door to a drunk who made lewd and unwanted advances toward me and I ended up calling the police, pressing charges, took him to court, and got a restraining order. Haven't had a problem with him for years, now, and I NEVER SAID ONE WORD TO HIM. But, I do agree that the guy needs to go back to jail. He must like it there, because here he gets another chance at freedom and do something positive with his life, and he just returns to what he knows -- like a dog returns to its vomit.

bbrowning wrote:

<quoted text>First off, this is an open forum where anybody can say what they want about anything, just as you are. Secondly, I can honestly say I have never been in a bar and I have never gotten into a fight (physically, just verbally). More often than not, bars attract a certain type of people and activities that are not healthy and, yes, I can say that without ever having stepped foot in a bar because these people eventually have to come out. Therein lies the problem for the rest of society. And I never buy the "We were just watching the game" excuse -- they could've done that at home, but didn't have the "refreshments" obviously. As far as someone making rude advances, well, what did she expect? She's in a bar, surrounded by drunk men who are obviously "not thinking clearly"!?!? I live next door to a drunk who made lewd and unwanted advances toward me and I ended up calling the police, pressing charges, took him to court, and got a restraining order. Haven't had a problem with him for years, now, and I NEVER SAID ONE WORD TO HIM. But, I do agree that the guy needs to go back to jail. He must like it there, because here he gets another chance at freedom and do something positive with his life, and he just returns to what he knows -- like a dog returns to its vomit.

You have to wonder how the woman was dressed too. I don't care what anyone says, you dress like a sleeze and you attract the wrong type of attention. Funny, women think they can act any way they want, but if a guy makes a pass, they start screaming. Sorry, the way you dress says alot about you. And if you don't want the unwanted attention, dress like a lady and not like a lady of the evening. I know it isn't a popular opinion, but, it is mine and I am a woman.

Most people that take a 8 inch blade to a bar are not looking for trouble at all. "He was jumped by some punks". Queen nut, you were there weren't you? I know the "sleezy bartender" and I can guarantee she was wearing nothing that would attract attention. I also know 3 of the 4 men who were wounded. How stupid of them to defend themselves against a scumbag. He doesn't have a EXTREMELY LARGE RECORD or anything. He was just there being captain innocent with a over sized blade. Had he just watched Crocodile Dundee and decided it might be fun to take a katana sword into a bar? He's just your everyday nice guy. "How terrible for 20-something year old guys to be at a bar watching a game". I didn't know going to a bar made you a bad person. I didn't know going to a bar made you automatically looking for trouble. But when you take a WEAPON into a bar, you aren't bringing that with you "just in case". "The video looks like the guy is the one being attacked, it was self-defense". Spare me. Next time I go to a bar, I'm going to take a machete, flash it, and just say, "I mean no harm. It is normal for me to have this at a bar. Please don't restrain me from wounding 4 people and putting one of them in critical condition". You pussies that sit at home and wait to comment on city problems because you don't know what it's like in the real world, says that you have had such hardships. Wait till you get in a situation. And trust me, it doesn't have to happen at a bar. Even if you live in a so-called "safe neighborhood", anything can happen at any time. And then what are YOU going to do? Hurry to get on the internet and go to askjeeves.com ? We will see how you respond in a situation like this. We all know Queen Nut would out-wit the attacker with a deep analysis of the situation. Much experience in her psychology branch at Yale will help her talk her way out of this.

And excuse me for the grammatical error...an over sized blade. Wouldn't want Queen slut to call me out!