Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Bruno

Westminster, CA

#150440 Jul 15, 2012
Nytebreid wrote:
<quoted text>
Pretend for a second that neither of us wants to review 6600 pages of posts.
Tell us one of the good arguments that would hold water if/when the issue goes before the Supreme Court.
LOL .. 6600 pages and you still ask the same question, you are too stupid to keep explaning the answers to. Besides you are a newbie here so what do you know what happend 6600 pages ago??
you don't qualifiy. get lost
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#150441 Jul 15, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
Anyone who calls themselves "Americans" and still oppose gay marriage need to seriously either get out of my country or just die out already. You are an embarrassment to this country.
LOL .. Real Americans still fight to keep intruders like you from force changing our government. You just wait until the muslims have the say, there will be no more gaypride parades for you and your gay friends. I am an "American" and staying right here.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#150442 Jul 15, 2012
One more little push and you might be able to make a clean break between the concepts of "homosexuality" as a behavior and "homosexuality" as an innate identity. Hon, we've known all along that sexual behaviors can be pretty downright fluid for some people and that for any number of heterosexuals, homosexual behavior might be against their "nature", but can be learned and even enjoyed like Swedish Folk Dancing. The obvious point you are missing is that YOU and YOUR ILK are the only ones fascinated by discussing your often time alternate universe views on sex between two people of the same sex, we're here to discuss the innate reality that you people don't seem to care alone, let alone notice, that unlike heterosexuals who walk on the Wilde side for whatever reason, we don't stop being homosexual. If y'all stopped babbling about how you imagine us engaging in "homosexual behavior", we can have an adult discussion over what the rest of our lives are supposed to be like when we're not doing it.

While behavior can ebb and flow like the Bay of Fundy, the innate identity, the sexual orientation which controls it, is pretty darn well fixed. Heterosexuals have probably been trying to make heterosexuals out of their homosexual offspring since the dawn of humans, they've even gone as far as killing us in hopes that there'd be no more, but homosexuality as an innate identity will persist as long as evolution sees the need for it to persist. No matter what lengths you go to, no matter how hard you try, you've never truly made anyone heterosexual who wasn't. They may be able to mimic the behavior to pass for White, I mean straight, but they aren't. You can be pressured in burying that homosexual nature under impressed heterosexual behaviors, but you''ll never completely kill it. I don't know if anyone has ever counted, but I imagine that there are far more "ex-ex-gays" and "ex-gays" praying that they don't get caught than those who have the current delusion of heterosexuality based on their behavior. You people have been absolute failures at fixing what you call our problem, but yet you imagine that with a little sprinkle of fairy dust, or in your case, even having it in the room, will turn your presumed heterosexual sons and daughters into not only homosexuals, but penis hat and assless chaps wearing, pride marching, whatever, whatever queer. Orientation doesn't work that way and you damn well know it. It's there and you're basically stuck with it, the only real choice you have in the matter is how you live successfully with the orientation you've been given. Acting out comes more from how your child is raised and raising one who is going to be homosexual, no matter what you do to it, locked in a closet under threats of violence from you and maybe even "god" and fed a constant stream of malinformed nonsense, when that closet door finally gets kicked down by someone who hasn't got a freaking clue as to what they really should be doing with that homosexuality they were given, behold your creation. You don't give a flying f*ck about those kids are growing up to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgendered, they're on their own and hopefully locked in a closet, straight kids are so weak minded that learning what these people go through when they aren't having sex will send them straight to Sodom & Gomorrah.

Why is it that we have to pay the price simply because heterosexuals have such low opinions of themselves as a collective? We can't be "married", because marriage exists as an incentive program for responsible breeding and if you allow us to marry, your fellow heterosexuals are going to breed like feral hogs, but not be as responsible as parents. We can't have equal protection because heterosexuals have a god given right to be freaked out about people who don't stop being homosexual while fully clothed. We can't teach facts about homosexuality to ANY children, because the straight ones might get confused. Really?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#150443 Jul 15, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Children of same-sex couples are worse off
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/ut-study-...
You really should try to keep up with the news. We know all about this study. We've since learned that this study's definition of a child having grown up with a biological parent or parents who were "gay" (if you had two, he only counted your father, he was short of those) was vague to the point of meaningless. To qualify, one of your parents had to have had same sex sex more than once with the same person at any point in their lives while you were growing up. We have also since learned that the hefty price tag for this study was picked up by a right wing group with direct connections to one of the most prominent groups fighting equality for same sex couples, NOM. We have also learned that he was shopping his paper around even before he had all the data. We have since learned that he is a member of a group of other like minded individuals that advocate the teaching of religion as a science. We just learned a couple of days ago that the good associate professor and his study are being investigated under allegations of academic fraud by his employer, the University of Texas. It really hasn't been a good month for this "study" which is rapidly proving to be nothing more than an expensive anti-gay agenda driven fraud.

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

United States

#150445 Jul 15, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
One more little push and you might be able to make a clean break between the concepts of "homosexuality" as a behavior and "homosexuality" as an innate identity. Hon, we've known all along that sexual behaviors can be pretty downright fluid for some people and that for any number of heterosexuals, homosexual behavior might be against their "nature", but can be learned and even enjoyed like Swedish Folk Dancing. The obvious point you are missing is that YOU and YOUR ILK are the only ones fascinated by discussing your often time alternate universe views on sex between two people of the same sex, we're here to discuss the innate reality that you people don't seem to care alone, let alone notice, that unlike heterosexuals who walk on the Wilde side for whatever reason, we don't stop being homosexual. If y'all stopped babbling about how you imagine us engaging in "homosexual behavior", we can have an adult discussion over what the rest of our lives are supposed to be like when we're not doing it.
While behavior can ebb and flow like the Bay of Fundy, the innate identity, the sexual orientation which controls it, is pretty darn well fixed. Heterosexuals have probably been trying to make heterosexuals out of their homosexual offspring since the dawn of humans, they've even gone as far as killing us in hopes that there'd be no more, but homosexuality as an innate identity will persist as long as evolution sees the need for it to persist. No matter what lengths you go to, no matter how hard you try, you've never truly made anyone heterosexual who wasn't. They may be able to mimic the behavior to pass for White, I mean straight, but they aren't. You can be pressured in burying that homosexual nature under impressed heterosexual behaviors, but you''ll never completely kill it. I don't know if anyone has ever counted, but I imagine that there are far more "ex-ex-gays" and "ex-gays" praying that they don't get caught than those who have the current delusion of heterosexuality based on their behavior. You people have been absolute failures at fixing what you call our problem, but yet you imagine that with a little sprinkle of fairy dust, or in your case, even having it in the room, will turn your presumed heterosexual sons and daughters into not only homosexuals, but penis hat and assless chaps wearing, pride marching, whatever, whatever queer. Orientation doesn't work that way and you damn well know it.
Why is it that we have to pay the price simply because ones might get confused. Really?
Pay no attention to the queer behind the curtain.

And that's because the bottom line is this: He wants transvestite teachers in grade school.

That's all you need to know about him and gays like him.

Well, not all...

People like "Rick from Kansas" are the kind of gays that made Larry Brinkin the unofficial gay mayor of San Francisco. They live in this pink little world of make-believe where everything is magical and sweet and cotton-candy, and Michael Jackson was a harmless creature who only wanted to make little boy's dreams come true at Never-Never Land.

Don't remind Rick that the multi-million dollar man-boy sex industry is run by card-holding LGBT members. And don't dare tell him the barely legal boys used in this degrading, disease-infested, soul-eroding business are young men -- mostly straight young men -- lured into it by gay bullshit artists just like Rick.

Homosexuality can't coexist with heterosexuality. If gay priests can't keep their hands off young boys, what gay males can?

There's no middle ground. There's no "peace in our time" diplomacy. Sign-on to same sex marriage and they'll be in the schools trying to recruit your sons into their sex cult.

And homosexuality is a sex cult -- don't let Rick of Kansas bullshit you about that either.

Then again maybe you have no problem with your sons becoming members of a sex cult -- if not, Rick from Kansas is your man.

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

United States

#150446 Jul 15, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
One more little push and you might be able to make a clean break between the concepts of "homosexuality" as a behavior and "homosexuality" as an innate identity. completely kill it. I don't know if anyone has ever counted, but I imagine that there are far more "ex-ex-gays" and "ex-gays" praying that they don't get caught than those who have the current delusion of heterosexuality based on their behavior. You people have been absolute failures at fixing what you call our problem, but yet you imagine that with a little sprinkle of fairy dust, or in your case, even having it in the room, will turn your presumed heterosexual sons and daughters into not only homosexuals, but penis hat and assless chaps wearing, pride marching, whatever, whatever queer. Orientation doesn't work that way and you damn well know it. It's there and you're basically stuck with it, the only real choice you have in the matter is how you live successfully with the orientation you've been given. Acting out comes more from how your child is raised and raising one who is going to be homosexual, no matter what you do to it, locked in a closet under threats of violence from you and maybe even "god" and fed a constant stream of malinformed nonsense, when that closet door finally gets kicked down by someone who hasn't got a freaking clue as to what they really should be doing with that homosexuality they were given, behold your creation. You don't give a flying f*ck about those kids are growing up to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgendered, they're on their own and hopefully locked in a closet, straight kids are so weak minded that learning what these people go through when they aren't having sex will send them straight to Sodom & Gomorrah.
Why is it that we have to pay the price simply because heterosexuals have such low opinions of themselves as a collective? We can't be "married", because marriage exists as an incentive program for responsible breeding and if you allow us to marry, your fellow heterosexuals are going to breed like feral hogs, but not be as responsible as parents. We can't have equal protection because heterosexuals have a god given right to be freaked out about people who don't stop being homosexual while fully clothed. We can't teach facts about homosexuality to ANY children, because the straight ones might get confused. Really?
Pay no attention to the queer behind the curtain.

And that's because the bottom line is this: He wants transvestite teachers in grade school.

That's all you need to know about him and gays like him.

Well, not all...

People like "Rick from Kansas" are the kind of gays that made Larry Brinkin the unofficial gay mayor of San Francisco. They live in this pink little world of make-believe where everything is magical and sweet and cotton-candy, and Michael Jackson was a harmless creature who only wanted to make little boy's dreams come true at Never-Never Land.

Don't remind Rick that the multi-million dollar man-boy sex industry is run by card-holding LGBT members. And don't dare tell him the barely legal boys used in this degrading, disease-infested, soul-eroding business are young men -- mostly straight young men -- lured into it by gay bullshit artists just like Rick.

Homosexuality can't coexist with heterosexuality. If gay priests can't keep their hands off young boys, what gay males can?

There's no middle ground. There's no "peace in our time" diplomacy. Sign-on to same sex marriage and they'll be in the schools trying to recruit your sons into their sex cult.

And homosexuality is a sex cult -- don't let Rick of Kansas bullshit you about that either.

Then again maybe you have no problem with your sons becoming members of a sex cult -- if not, Rick from Kansas is your man.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#150447 Jul 15, 2012
Bruno wrote:
<quoted text>
Comon ,,, there have been many you just agree with any of them
because you are bias. BFD
So, what is one of those good arguments against gay marriage?
:::crickets chirping:::

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#150448 Jul 15, 2012
Bruno wrote:
<quoted text>
How did your opration turn out ?????
What's an opration?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#150449 Jul 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>they can interfere with the action of our own estrogen. Next? how does that work with newborns, idiot? Next
It's going to turn us all into Satan's Gay Zombies.
Next.
(Poe's Law...)

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#150451 Jul 15, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
-State Rights
-10th Amendment
-9th Amendment
BTW, if you care to know what the founders thought about State right's you should review the following:
Kentucky Resolution- Thomas Jefferson
He's worm poop now, and I'm no more concerned about what he thought about states rights than I am concerned about what he thought about the rights of women and black people when it comes to the laws we have today.

"States' Rights" was a catch phrase used by the segregationists back in the 60's to try and "justify" Jim Crow Laws. The 14th Amendment, written about 100 years after some worm pooped bits of Jefferson out of its backside, says the states have to give all US citizens equal protection under the law. It was quoted in Loving v. VA.

Why are you against equal protection?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#150452 Jul 15, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
There is nothing to get around, it only requires equality under the law, doesn't say anything about everyone getting to do anything they please.
Can a woman marry a man? Yes.
Can a man marry a man? No.
No != Yes

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#150453 Jul 15, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay no attention to the queer behind the curtain.
And that's because the bottom line is this: He wants transvestite teachers in grade school.
You know, that same prediction was spread around back in the days of Anita Bryant's (failed) Briggs Initiative in California.

It's been 30 years since then. There doesn't appear to be a glut of trannies in the schools. Less than a handful in the entire State.

What do you think of sexually frustrated teachers who teach all their classes wearing medieval clothing? We've got quite a few of those.
Letters

Azusa, CA

#150454 Jul 15, 2012
Don't worry Willard Mitt Romney will save you?

Or not?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#150455 Jul 15, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>So, what is one of those good arguments against gay marriage?
:::crickets chirping:::
here is ones law..........ROTFLMAO
Urged

Azusa, CA

#150456 Jul 15, 2012
Real Americans say to Wilard Mitt Romney: Stop your whining over felony remark, we are not all drones like the LDS church members.

GOP/Tea Party Nation members/Republicans decrying the remark as the worst type of divisive politics and Real Americans are urging Willard Mitt Romeny to "stop whining."

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#150457 Jul 15, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
Anyone who calls themselves "Americans" and still oppose gay marriage need to seriously either get out of my country or just die out already. You are an embarrassment to this country.
there is no such thing as gay marriage just like there is no such thing as a white black person

Marriage has always been between a man and a woman

Blacks were smart enough to except equal rights without trying to change the meaning of the word white........

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#150458 Jul 15, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Eh ... this "Rosie's Law" business ... you've repeated it a dozen times already. It wasn't clever or original when you first introduced it, why do you think that changes with repetition?
It's was, by definition, original when I first came up with it. And while it may or may not be clever, it's accurate.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Prof Marvel's Law: People who repeat the same lame material lower the bar.
And same-sex marriage promotes the normalization of homosexuality same-sex marriage.
?
Prof Marvel wrote:
Then again, it could be the normalization of homosexuality promotes same-sex marriage which, at the end of the day, is the same thing.
This is not an abstract concept. Your inability to grasp it is the only abstract thing in evidence here.
Transvestites are teaching grade school in Massachusetts because same-sex marriage gave gay activists the legal foundation they needed to force school boards to accept transvestite teachers.
Pretty simple concept -- yet you still can't get your head around it, Rose. Why?
LOL!
So what?
It's not like they are going to strut into class like this:
http://youtu.be/bc80tFJpTuo

And nature tells us men are the ones who should wear the fancy clothes, jewelry, and make up.:)
Prof Marvel wrote:
And when you write "There's no evidence showing gay parents molest children" aren't you asking the wrong question? Isn't the question whether gay men -- like Catholic priests, Jerry Sandusky, Larry
Brinkin, et al.-- molest kids?
1. There is no evidence the priests or Sandusky were gay.
2. What they did had nothing to do with gay marriage one way or another.

So, no, your question is irrelevant to the gay marriage issue.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Honestly, Rose, if you're too stupid to frame your question correctly, how can you expect to get a useful answer?
IOW, you can't deal with the actual issues.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#150459 Jul 15, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
there is no such thing as gay marriage just like there is no such thing as a white black person
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman
Blacks were smart enough to except equal rights without trying to change the meaning of the word white........
lol ... There are black white people and white black people it's called interracial you dumb ass ...
A gay marriage is when two gay people get married quit being so dumb you dumbass ... can we move on to somthing more important?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#150460 Jul 15, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay no attention to the queer behind the curtain.
And that's because the bottom line is this: He wants transvestite teachers in grade school.
That's all you need to know about him and gays like him.
Well, not all...
People like "Rick from Kansas" are the kind of gays that made Larry Brinkin the unofficial gay mayor of San Francisco. They live in this pink little world of make-believe where everything is magical and sweet and cotton-candy, and Michael Jackson was a harmless creature who only wanted to make little boy's dreams come true at Never-Never Land.
Don't remind Rick that the multi-million dollar man-boy sex industry is run by card-holding LGBT members. And don't dare tell him the barely legal boys used in this degrading, disease-infested, soul-eroding business are young men -- mostly straight young men -- lured into it by gay bullshit artists just like Rick.
Homosexuality can't coexist with heterosexuality. If gay priests can't keep their hands off young boys, what gay males can?
There's no middle ground. There's no "peace in our time" diplomacy. Sign-on to same sex marriage and they'll be in the schools trying to recruit your sons into their sex cult.
And homosexuality is a sex cult -- don't let Rick of Kansas bullshit you about that either.
Then again maybe you have no problem with your sons becoming members of a sex cult -- if not, Rick from Kansas is your man.
Again, we see you illustrate Rose's Law.(If you get tired of hearing about it, quit illustrating it.)

You are a moron with no real argument, so you keep bringing up children. Homophobes like you are desperate to connect homosexuality, especially male homosexuality, to pedophilia. But there is no connection. And you're implication that Rick from Kansas has no problem with pedophilia just shows how pathetic you are.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#150461 Jul 15, 2012
Bruno wrote:
<quoted text>lol ... There are black white people and white black people it's called interracial you dumb ass ...
A gay marriage is when two gay people get married quit being so dumb you dumbass ... can we move on to somthing more important?
interracial is a mix of the two

They still are not called a white black person
We did not change the word white to include them........

Woman have equal rights also but we don't call them men

Muslims are free to worship but we don't call them Christians

Marriage is a civil union between a man and a woman
You can pick a different name for your civil union

Just a fe

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