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NPS ends silence on Latschar

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The National Park Service ended its weeklong silence Friday regarding management changes at Gettysburg National Military Park with its official announcement that John Latschar has been reassigned to a position in Frederick, Md., and that the park's current chief ranger will serve as superintendent for the time being.

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Jennie

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Oct 23, 2009
 
"Latschar will report Monday to the Historic Preservation Training Center as a special assistant to the Park Service's associate director for cultural resources. He will continue to make $145,000 annually in his new position..."

Continues to make $145,000, for doing less! Some demotion.

!!!!!!MY QUESTION!!!!!!!
Was the new job magically made up this week for him? If so, a waste of $145,000 for the taxpayers! Why not save electricity for his office and let him sit at home watching porno.

Or was this a real job that has been advertised within the government and other people could apply for it?

Can anybody check on this?
Andrew

Knoxville, MD

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Jennie -- Although I have not seen anything "official" my bet is that, of course Latschar's new position in Fredierick is brand new and created just for him. The title says it all "special assistant." How many times have you seen that description used in a government job title?

“Justa truckin'”

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#3
Oct 24, 2009
 
Glad he took s "desk job" Now he will have all kinds of time to surf the net for porn.
Jean

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#4
Oct 24, 2009
 
Why is this man continuing to make $145,000 ???
Seems to me a reduction in salary was called for,along with his removal as Superintendent...
Tony

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#5
Oct 24, 2009
 
Only in federal government can you get in major trouble then get "demoted" to an easier job and make the same hyper-inflated salary. No wonder this nation is in the toilet. If I were his new boss he wouldn't have a computer and I would work him like a dog. He would earn every penny of that 145k.
Harrisburg

Harrisburg, PA

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#6
Oct 24, 2009
 
Technically, it sounds like what is called a lateral transfer, in merit/civil service system speak. A lateral transfer IS a movement to a position at the same GS level and pay grade so there is no reduction of pay or benefits as a result. In real world terms, it IS a demotion to be sent anywhere other than a promotion from an assignment like Gettysburg NMP.

Any or all of you may not like this. Whether you do or not is your business. What you see is only the tip of the iceberg, the part that the person leaking the report wanted you to see. Disciplinary actions in merit/civil service and unionized systems require that management have just cause for whatever action is taken and that includes a complex host of factors, including what has been done to others who have committed the same offense. It appears that action that the NPS took about the offense and which it believe could be defended under the just cause standard had already occurred. This would have been handled confidentially as is legally required for federal personnel matters. This seems more like Secy. Salazar taking action to end an embarassing PR situation by doing as much as is within his authority to do without violating the merit protection rules.
Sam

Littlestown, PA

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Latschar should have been fired. GOOD RIDDANCE.

Other government workers who looked on the internet at far less offensive content have been fired.

I would also like to know if the new job was magically created for him once this story hit the media. Plus it's in Frederick, MD, an easy commute from his house.

The Park Service must be horribly corrupt. Get rid of them all.
Germany Township Resident

Ponchatoula, LA

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Harrisburg is correct in a way ... it would be a lateral transfere. But the issue was the job created just for him? If so this is WRONG! Demoted is demoted and that is what he should have been if not fired. Any branch of military service this would have been reduction in rank and pay! He has been relocated and GIVEN a made up job for which no job decription is available publically. WHAT A JOKE THE NPS is turning out to be and maybe the Congress and Senate have it right to cut the budgets more and more and evedently even more deeply. All it shows the PUBLIC is that it is a shell game and smoke and mirror outfit running the park service. HERE'S AN IDEA make it a public private enterprise and charge admission but still take tax money to pay for stuff. Oh never mind thats what they do now!! So take the fun out of it and make all parks PRIVATE enterprises with huge tax ensentives to keep open space, preserve the area for historical reasons, but charge taxes on revenue that is profit while limiting the salaries of to pay to a reasonable amount based on area. Oh like that will ever happen... GOOD LUCK and enjoy.
Spitonya

Lancaster, PA

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Lots more doubletalk and Newspeak from Harrisburg, as usual. Funny how she mentioned the word "merit" and felt it applied to this case. This has been one of the least meritorious situations in which the National Porn Service has ever found itself (at least so far as we in the proletariat know).
ex tourist

Pitman, NJ

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#10
Oct 24, 2009
 
The NPS, like most of government, has become a national disgrace. They're nothing but criminals protecting their own.
former chief

Guyton, GA

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#11
Oct 24, 2009
 
I am so displeased with this situation I can't make a serious comment. The fact of the matter is Government workers is held at a different standard of which we the people don't understand. This is just a part of what is coming down the road with the government we have in place in DC. now. They promised change look what is already happened and I can't see it getting better. War, Economy, Health is just some of the issues that this administration leaders can't seem to make serious decisions. Happy Days Wayne
Adams County Local

Newville, PA

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#12
Oct 24, 2009
 
This man was SO arrogant in his dealings that he thought he would never get caught.
He vowed to make the Boro of Gettysburg 'fail' if they didn't toe his line, was working to dismantle the Licensed Battlefield Guides, and was making questionable deals with local businesses.

This is the best thing (other than a jail sentence) that could have happened to him. The Boro, the local 'non-dealing' businesses, the Battlefield guides and the public all benefit. There will be parties in Adams County to celebrate that despot's fall.
Sharon Sheppard

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Harrisburg wrote:
Technically, it sounds like what is called a lateral transfer, in merit/civil service system speak. A lateral transfer IS a movement to a position at the same GS level and pay grade so there is no reduction of pay or benefits as a result. In real world terms, it IS a demotion to be sent anywhere other than a promotion from an assignment like Gettysburg NMP.
Any or all of you may not like this. Whether you do or not is your business. What you see is only the tip of the iceberg, the part that the person leaking the report wanted you to see. Disciplinary actions in merit/civil service and unionized systems require that management have just cause for whatever action is taken and that includes a complex host of factors, including what has been done to others who have committed the same offense. It appears that action that the NPS took about the offense and which it believe could be defended under the just cause standard had already occurred. This would have been handled confidentially as is legally required for federal personnel matters. This seems more like Secy. Salazar taking action to end an embarassing PR situation by doing as much as is within his authority to do without violating the merit protection rules.
Will all due respect "Harrisburg", I believe you are incorrect about what you believe is our "business". WE (taxpayers) are paying for the salaries of each and everyone in government - whether elected or part of this bloated bureaucracy that was created by elected officials)- It IS our business to know if our money is being spent efficiently. What ANY employee does in their own house is their business. Whether YOU think (as a bureaucrat, I assume) that this individual's "lateral transfer" is appropriate is of little importance. Why should we accept policies for those working for US that WE cannot have in the REAL world? WE are tired of NO accountability. If you want something JUST do it and send the bill to us - Game OVER!

I did not know this person - I have no agenda here. There are rules for ALL of us. If you do not like a law, you do not ignore it without expectation of consequence. I suspect that there are many out there who may have used their computers inappropriately on the clock - this is NOT productive and essentially that person is "stealing" - think about it. Would you want to pay someone for the time it took to mow your lawn and be happy if you found them in your garage on their cell phone? This man was a leader - he should be held to a higher standard.

This situation speaks to a larger concern about the way this country operates - WE ARE DISGUSTED. Maybe it's time to change not just this policy regarding this so-called "demotion" but a complete overhaul - about time!
AMAZED

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Oct 24, 2009
 
The next thing that crosses my mind is are we still going to be paying forLatschar to live in a NPS house in Gettysburg at the taxpayer's expense ?
Harrisburg

Harrisburg, PA

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Oct 24, 2009
 
AMAZED wrote:
The next thing that crosses my mind is are we still going to be paying forLatschar to live in a NPS house in Gettysburg at the taxpayer's expense ?
Considering that he never did live at taxpayers' expense in an NPS house, the answer is no. Until late 2001, he did live at the Rose Farm, a historic property on GNMP & owned by NPS. Most of the historic homes in the park are similarly leased. However, it was never free housing. Anyone living in those houses has to pay what the NPS sets as a fair market value rent. He paid it. That charge of free housing was made to and rebutted by the NPS during the mudslinging during the General Management Plan process.

After his divorce, when he remarried in late 2001, he and his wife purchased the house where they now live. She had been renting it for years before they were a couple. It is not now and has never been NPS property which I believe is made clear in the OIG report.
Harrisburg

Harrisburg, PA

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Spitonya wrote:
Lots more doubletalk and Newspeak from Harrisburg, as usual. Funny how she mentioned the word "merit" and felt it applied to this case. This has been one of the least meritorious situations in which the National Porn Service has ever found itself (at least so far as we in the proletariat know).
I knew that one was coming, I just didn't know from whom. I tried to use the term merit/civil service to make it as clear as possible what I was describing. Merit system in the context that I am using it simply means that I am using the designated federal term for what we call the civil service system in Pennsylvania. It has nothing to do with a value judgment, one way or the other, on the individual's conduct or the handling of it by DOI/NPS.

Find it doublespeak if you will, but I didn't assign the names. I just used them correctly. If the feds called the system by which they handle their personnel issues "Aardvark" that's what I'd have to call it.
wow

Shippensburg, PA

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Oct 24, 2009
 
former chief wrote:
I am so displeased with this situation I can't make a serious comment. The fact of the matter is Government workers is held at a different standard of which we the people don't understand. This is just a part of what is coming down the road with the government we have in place in DC. now. They promised change look what is already happened and I can't see it getting better. War, Economy, Health is just some of the issues that this administration leaders can't seem to make serious decisions. Happy Days Wayne
yeah chief,
this sort of stuff only started with the obama administration. get a grip - admit it - you're a sour grapes goodold boy republican , that can't handle the fact that the rest of the world isn't gonna bow down and accept something as truth just because you say so. if you were a former police chief in this area (hanover)- i'm sure there are plenty of skeletons in your closet from how things ran and continue to run in this area. i think it is safe to assume you are a good old boy racist - because that is the only way you could of reached the level of chief in the redneck haven this area was and still has very prominent pockets of today. basically - your days are past old timer - the world has passed you by - enjoy your retirement and accept the fact you are no longer relevant in todays world.
Harrisburg

Harrisburg, PA

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Sharon Sheppard wrote:
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Will all due respect "Harrisburg", I believe you are incorrect about what you believe is our "business". WE (taxpayers) are paying for the salaries of each and everyone in government - whether elected or part of this bloated bureaucracy that was created by elected officials)- It IS our business to know if our money is being spent efficiently. What ANY employee does in their own house is their business. Whether YOU think (as a bureaucrat, I assume) that this individual's "lateral transfer" is appropriate is of little importance. Why should we accept policies for those working for US that WE cannot have in the REAL world? WE are tired of NO accountability. If you want something JUST do it and send the bill to us - Game OVER!
I did not know this person - I have no agenda here. There are rules for ALL of us. If you do not like a law, you do not ignore it without expectation of consequence. I suspect that there are many out there who may have used their computers inappropriately on the clock - this is NOT productive and essentially that person is "stealing" - think about it. Would you want to pay someone for the time it took to mow your lawn and be happy if you found them in your garage on their cell phone? This man was a leader - he should be held to a higher standard.
This situation speaks to a larger concern about the way this country operates - WE ARE DISGUSTED. Maybe it's time to change not just this policy regarding this so-called "demotion" but a complete overhaul - about time!
Ms. Sheppard-I said that this is the system as it currently exists whether people like it or not. I did not say that they are stuck with it forever. BTW, you don't know what the NPS did after it got the report. Personnel matters, especially in federal government, are highly confidential. Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean that corrective action was not taken.

However, if you are not happy with the system as it is, by all means work to change the laws and policies. That is your right, protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. The First Amendment's religion clauses and its Free Speech clause get the most press, but another right protected under the First Amendment is the right of the people to petition the government for the redress of grievances.
haha

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Sam wrote:
Latschar should have been fired. GOOD RIDDANCE.
Other government workers who looked on the internet at far less offensive content have been fired.
I would also like to know if the new job was magically created for him once this story hit the media. Plus it's in Frederick, MD, an easy commute from his house.
The Park Service must be horribly corrupt. Get rid of them all.
Just because you say it in your post...doesn't make it true. Discipline is progressive and based on your post, you apparently don't have any of the facts to claim corruption...
Leaps

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Oct 24, 2009
 
Sharon Sheppard wrote:
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Will all due respect "Harrisburg", I believe you are incorrect about what you believe is our "business". WE (taxpayers) are paying for the salaries of each and everyone in government - whether elected or part of this bloated bureaucracy that was created by elected officials)- It IS our business to know if our money is being spent efficiently. What ANY employee does in their own house is their business. Whether YOU think (as a bureaucrat, I assume) that this individual's "lateral transfer" is appropriate is of little importance. Why should we accept policies for those working for US that WE cannot have in the REAL world? WE are tired of NO accountability. If you want something JUST do it and send the bill to us - Game OVER!
I did not know this person - I have no agenda here. There are rules for ALL of us. If you do not like a law, you do not ignore it without expectation of consequence. I suspect that there are many out there who may have used their computers inappropriately on the clock - this is NOT productive and essentially that person is "stealing" - think about it. Would you want to pay someone for the time it took to mow your lawn and be happy if you found them in your garage on their cell phone? This man was a leader - he should be held to a higher standard.
This situation speaks to a larger concern about the way this country operates - WE ARE DISGUSTED. Maybe it's time to change not just this policy regarding this so-called "demotion" but a complete overhaul - about time!
I was laughing at these posts, but now I realize how pathetic people can get by leaping from facts they know to facts they believe to be next in line. How do you know he spent work time looking at this stuff. He may have been on his lunch hour? He may have looked at it after his official hours were over. You have no idea. I'm guessing a person in that position works far more hours that he has to. If he is supposed to work 40-50 hours a week and he works 60, would you be mad that he spent an hour of his week doing non-work related stuff at work? You are also leaping that you know anything about the discipline he may or may not have received. People make mistakes. Now the question becomes, would you want your child to have a second chance at redemption or would you rather hold that: "He is to held at a higher standard" crap that most hypocrites love to throw around???
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