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Christopher Savoie doesn't appear to be holding up well after more than a week in a Japanese jail.

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rob

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Why isn't the government doing something? This is crazy. They are his kids. I believe that if it was a minority, the gov't would step in. Before you speak; let me tell you that I am not racist. That word pops up too often now days. I just believe that if it was a different race, the gov't would step in. Bring that man home.
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The Japan Times article you link to contains an error. Noriko Savoie is not an U.S. citizen. As stated in the hearing transcript, she became a permanent resident after coming to the U.S. The author of the Japan Times column, Debito Arudou,is relying on an erroneous report by CNN that the couple were "both citizens of the United States and Japan." As a former U.S. citizen who had to give up his U.S. citizenship and change his name to get Japanese citizenship, he should have known to confirm this information.
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I have a question for Phil Williams- Were you aware that Mr. Savoie holds a Japanese passport (dual with US)? Were you also aware that his divorce in Tennesse is not legally binding in Japan, therefor he is STILL legally married to Noriko? Did you also know that the children also hold dual citizenship? I am a half Japanese/half American woman and have lived in Japan for 13 years. You are obviously are biased against Noriko and are on "team Christopher".
THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE

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Shiela wrote:
I have a question for Phil Williams- Were you aware that Mr. Savoie holds a Japanese passport (dual with US)? Were you also aware that his divorce in Tennesse is not legally binding in Japan, therefor he is STILL legally married to Noriko? Did you also know that the children also hold dual citizenship? I am a half Japanese/half American woman and have lived in Japan for 13 years. You are obviously are biased against Noriko and are on "team Christopher".
Yeah, Phil, don't you know that she was just pretending to get divorced when she signed the divorce agreement and took Christopher's money. They're not really divorced? Give me a break!
THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE

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And if they're still legally married, aren't those his kids? Why is he in jail?
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I was going to read the article on Japan Times, but now that Curious mentioned Debito's name, I quickly closed it. LOL
Rescue is a much nicer word for Mr. Savoie together with 3 other people to take away children from their mother. I bet one was a driver, one was to hold mother, and two were to grab kids.
Was Mr. Savoie had some trouble with his company's IPO in Japan?
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so finally the cbs producer decided to go for an interview after 2 weeks ..
I am sorry for christopher for one thing Japanese prison are not great at all.
but you broke the law.

anyway hope one day noriko will speak.
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Here we go again! Another round of "Team Christopher Investigation"!

Those of you feel horrified to read this news for the first time, please, before writing Japan bashing or uninformed comments, do look into this case a bit more.

From Phil Williams piece earlier today, it is clear that CH5 is reading this forum comments, so they are aware that this case is not that simple. Why are they still not disclosing very important information that children were born and grew up in Japan until Mr. Savoie persuaded his family to move to US, and at the point, he was already with his mistress (now wife Amy)? And all four of them are Japanese citizens.

Furthermore, he served Noriko a divorce paper a day she arrived from Japan with the kids? Also, 1 month after their divorce in Tennessee (not yet done in Japan) he remarries Amy.

I believe these are important facts to make informed opinion about this case.

And if you complain Japanese system, then how come people feel that the US court (in this case Tennessee) can take away passports and decide custody rights days after the wife and the children (Japanese citizens) hopped off the plane? That means any parent can move his or her family to the US with false pretense and use the US family court to trap them in this country? It sure doesn't look good example to show a "fair" family court system if we want to justify Mr. Savoie's case.

By the way, funny to see Mr. Debito Arudou is sticking his nose in this case too. ;)
Bka

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I bet Noriko no longer lives in the house the showed.. It looked empty to me.

Until the day noriko tells her side of story we will never know what she was thinking.

In the eyes of American law she is a fugitive and Christopher is the hero

Sad part is christopher is spreading the word
CHEATING IS OK!!! JUST MARRY YOUR MISTRESS AFTER YOU DUMP your wife!!!

sad sad sad...
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A few things about this additional one-sided report you aired. Okay, she came here understanding that her husband wanted a divorce, I give you that. You didn't mention that he would not give her a divorce in Japan, as she wanted. Also, she probably did not think when she accepted the agreement that her ex-husband would continue to try and prevent her from bringing the kids back to Japan for a visit, as demonstrated by the court case you site. Could it be possible that she moved to the US so her kids could be close with their father and have a relationship? It does appear she still has feeling for him in the court record, but he has moved on as the judge commented. Regarding the $800,000. Yes, that is a lot of money, but it is all relative. How much is he worth? Is this more or less than 50%? From my understanding, they married as he was going to school and before he started his company. Also, I think his father in law helped financially with school loans. So, shouldn't she be entitled to a reasonable amount of the wealth they both built over time in Japan? I would think most U.S. mothers going through a divorce would agree.
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he went there to grand stand he wanted the USA to back what he saw as a way to get his kids back. who knows if they are better off with him or his x. divorce is never pretty.
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Something does not look right in the hearing transcript about Noriko's status in the US. It is not easy to get permanent residency in the US. It is unlikely that USCIS grants permanent residency (PR) within a year of arriving in the US. The two common ways to get PR are through marriage or work. Since her husband was divorcing her and she does not work, how is her status a permanent resident?
The divorce seems to be filed before Noriko arrived. If that was the case, who filed Noriko status as PR?

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Ana wrote:
Something does not look right in the hearing transcript about Noriko's status in the US. It is not easy to get permanent residency in the US. It is unlikely that USCIS grants permanent residency (PR) within a year of arriving in the US. The two common ways to get PR are through marriage or work. Since her husband was divorcing her and she does not work, how is her status a permanent resident?
The divorce seems to be filed before Noriko arrived. If that was the case, who filed Noriko status as PR?
A GC holder with"Marrige Base" needs to reside
in US at least 3 years ( without leaving US ).
So Noriko came to TN last year and stayed there
just a little over year does not even make her eligible to apply a US citizenship at all.
So it doesn't make sense for someone to claim
Noriko is a US citizen unless she actually obtained a US citizenship long ago.

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Ana wrote:
Something does not look right in the hearing transcript about Noriko's status in the US. It is not easy to get permanent residency in the US. It is unlikely that USCIS grants permanent residency (PR) within a year of arriving in the US. The two common ways to get PR are through marriage or work. Since her husband was divorcing her and she does not work, how is her status a permanent resident?
The divorce seems to be filed before Noriko arrived. If that was the case, who filed Noriko status as PR?
I thought you are talking about US citizenship,
sorry.
From what we read she used to live in Silicon
Valley though it is unclear how long, so it is possible that she has been a permanent resident
for a long time.
USA1994

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BlueMoon wrote:
I was going to read the article on Japan Times, but now that Curious mentioned Debito's name, I quickly closed it. LOL
Rescue is a much nicer word for Mr. Savoie together with 3 other people to take away children from their mother. I bet one was a driver, one was to hold mother, and two were to grab kids.
Was Mr. Savoie had some trouble with his company's IPO in Japan?
So do you know what has happened to those three helped him? Isn't that called accessory to kidnapping?
Are they his Japanese friends or Americans?
just web surfin

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Court document has Noriko's statement that the parties lived apart "for much of the children's lives" and that they did not live together from "August 2005". This was HER sworn statement.

That divorce was NOT much of a surprise if they have been living separately from August 2005. That's 3 years before anyone filed for divorce.

She wanted sympathy and told people that the divorce was a surprise, but that directly contradicts her own signed statement.
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Ana,
it's not so hard to get permanent residency when you are married to an American citizen for longer than 10 yrs. She must have got it thru marriage, and you can apply for the visa while you're in Japan.( and you just wait there till you get it) This way, it doesn't take so long.
I read in the transcripts that Noriko made up her mind to move to the US in 2007, so there was plenty of time for her to wait for the visa.

The divorce was filed the day after Noriko and Kids' arrival.

Mr.Savoie must have been the sponsor to bring Noriko over, so I wonder if divorcing her the next day of her entry can be seen as fraud somehow? Because he had to swear to take care of/sponsor the very person.
Curious

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The father's lawyer is now reporting at a blog, www.japanabduction.blogspot.com , that before the mother came, she talked to a Tennessee social worker, not a Tennessee and Japanese lawyer, about the divorce law in Tennessee and the financial arrangements that she could expect.

AP's Travis Loller reports that the mother was ordered to turn over the child's passports to the Tennessee court in October 2008, before the agreement was reached in December 2008.

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just web surfin wrote:
Court document has Noriko's statement that the parties lived apart "for much of the children's lives" and that they did not live together from "August 2005". This was HER sworn statement.
That divorce was NOT much of a surprise if they have been living separately from August 2005. That's 3 years before anyone filed for divorce.
She wanted sympathy and told people that the divorce was a surprise, but that directly contradicts her own signed statement.
I think this individual above is Amy in different name
( like she participated in the other thread herself).
Of course, she wanted a divorce in Japan but he REFUSED. It was not a 'total' surprise.
But he brought her to TN telling her that they would work on their marriage. Otherwise, she never would have come to TN only to divorce the next day she arrived. Who would ?
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In the report, children said that they were kidnapped and screamed.
I was surprised at the insensitivity of American media thronged with the camera in the house where children might exist.
Are reports given to priority more than calmly of minds of children not guilty in the United States?
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