Why Queen Cleopatra was definitely not Black

Fresh Egyptian wrote:

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your stupid. ethiopia has nothin to do with egypt n wtf SPAIN?? really. u dont know nuthin.what bout rest of north africa??? u think the berbers r mediterrianian too? im egyptain n my ancestors are ancient egyptains. i dont deny black egyptains becasue yes they do exist(nubians) but there r also brown skinned ones(lighter skinned) who existed too. and ethieopia r ancient egyptains?? ur ppl didnt build no pyramids, so stop claimin u fake retard. oh ya i support SOMALIA not u guys!

wenta abeet oo ahbal

Fresh Egyptian

Thutmosis wrote:

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LOL you support somalia and not my people? Haha i can guess it's because we kick your butt all the time in war. Nowonder you arabs had to use the british help. First of all egyptians came from what we call modern sudan/eritrea. They had no origin in somalia. Also the land of punt is located in north east ethiopia not somalia. Punt is actually eritrea ok. I think you support somalia cuz it majority are muslims and you like that. You don't like christians and jews. Since my mom is a christian and my name is jewish descent. I don't practice religion cuz they are manmade and use to control brainwash people like yourself. Modern day berbers are not ancient berbers. Modern day north africa is the result of intermarrying with europeons and turk arabs. It was not like that in ancient time. The first people in north africa were black and most of them with the result of colonization and conquerers most of them migrated further to the south. Some mixed with the invaders and you will see thats why most look mixed. The ancient moors who invaded spain majority of them were blacks with a few mixed ones. 800 yrs after they invaded spain their descendants were almost or as like skin as the whites in europe. The mixing and interbreeding with them. In the next 100yrs north africa will be 99% black again just wait and see. I am not even black, but in the western world i am black.

hahaha no i have nothing against jews christains or muslims, i just wanted to say that. but i just want to know...whay do somali's and ethiopeans hate each other????. and north africa was never all black.its always mixed races. and it will always be like that so fuck off. we dont even judge ppl by that, thats western shit who judge off color

Fresh Egyptian

moossii wrote:

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wenta abeet oo ahbal

who the f*** is talkin to ur homo ass u retard!

seedak

Fresh Egyptian wrote:

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who the f*** is talkin to ur homo ass u retard!

You are not a descendant of the ancient Egyptians
You are an Arab
Ya kos okhtak

seedak

Fresh Egyptian wrote:

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who the f*** is talkin to ur homo ass u retard!

Y abteaal ayal ya khawal

Fresh Egyptian

seedak wrote:

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Y abteaal ayal ya khawal

u prolly ibni shaam. syrian, lebanese, palastinien, or jordan ppl r homo's who have no history, n ur arabic slang sounds like homo retards, n ur bitches r hairy as monkeys

moossii

Fresh Egyptian wrote:

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u prolly ibni shaam. syrian, lebanese, palastinien, or jordan ppl r homo's who have no history, n ur arabic slang sounds like homo retards, n ur bitches r hairy as monkeys

you must be a homo- khawal

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moise wrote:

<quoted text>Ta Shitis you have no proof of anything you claim
and you are a phoney dilletante
Ancient Egypt has nothing to do with africansand the Ptolomies were Greejks
TYake your pill and calm down you silly oaf

Excuse me "moist" you don't know what you are talking about. But I'm going to give you a chance. Don't make me sh#t on you since you call me Ta Shitis.... cause I can do it. The Ptolomeys were Macedonian more than they were Greeks..., What made them fall in the line of Greeks was the Peloponnesian wars. The Egyptians were AFricans from start to present.

You are just like the rest of these pathetic racist who think WHITE people created every great civilization on earth..
The thruth is, they haven't created one yet. They benefitted from those who did created it.

It's amazing how so many of you wannebe egyptian and greek freaks always criticize the blacks and the facts when none of you never present any posted with facts...

NEVER!

You better walk away from me "MOIST" you will not be able to handle the facts.

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Fresh Egyptian wrote:

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hahaha no i have nothing against jews christains or muslims, i just wanted to say that. but i just want to know...whay do somali's and ethiopeans hate each other????. and north africa was never all black.its always mixed races. and it will always be like that so fuck off. we dont even judge ppl by that, thats western shit who judge off color

Fresh Ediot!

YOu don't know what you are talking about. the North of Africa has always been Black... Just because Lighter skinned Arabs and before then the rape by Greco-Romans doesn't constitute a non white north Africa....

The people who told you that lie are afraid to debate African scholars... They shiver in the shoes everytime they are near people who tell the truth.

The Numidians were Black, the Carthaginians were Black...
Dumbass!

moossii

Ta Setis Revenge wrote:

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Fresh Ediot!
YOu don't know what you are talking about. the North of Africa has always been Black... Just because Lighter skinned Arabs and before then the rape by Greco-Romans doesn't constitute a non white north Africa....
The people who told you that lie are afraid to debate African scholars... They shiver in the shoes everytime they are near people who tell the truth.
The Numidians were Black, the Carthaginians were Black...
Dumbass!

Ta Shitis
You are back again -predictable pedestrian and boring with your one broken record of ignorant diatribes[A Greek word]
The Greeks civilsed the blacks they came into contact with and you should be eternally grateful
Even the Royal Court of Ethiopia had Greek as the formal court language!!

Fresh Egyptian

Ta Setis Revenge wrote:

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Fresh Ediot!
YOu don't know what you are talking about. the North of Africa has always been Black... Just because Lighter skinned Arabs and before then the rape by Greco-Romans doesn't constitute a non white north Africa....
The people who told you that lie are afraid to debate African scholars... They shiver in the shoes everytime they are near people who tell the truth.
The Numidians were Black, the Carthaginians were Black...
Dumbass!

u askin me for sources. where ur sources b at! im not trynna argue, jus discussin, so chill out, who r u callin and idiot, spell it right? if u gonna call somebody that.

Fresh Egyptian

Ta Setis Revenge wrote:

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Fresh Ediot!
YOu don't know what you are talking about. the North of Africa has always been Black... Just because Lighter skinned Arabs and before then the rape by Greco-Romans doesn't constitute a non white north Africa....
The people who told you that lie are afraid to debate African scholars... They shiver in the shoes everytime they are near people who tell the truth.
The Numidians were Black, the Carthaginians were Black...
Dumbass!

there is also a wide variety in color for the term "ARAB" they can by light with blue eyes, fair skin, brown skin, red skin, and black. sudanese ppl r considered arab. the word arab doesnt have a stereotypical color. i dint ddeny nubians. yes they are black yes they are a ancient civilization from ancient Egypt, but that wasnt the only civilization that existed. and ur a dumbass. talk with respect, and i will talk with respect, i am willing to b open minded and listen to u if u wouldnt b such an asshole actin like a homo

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Fresh Egyptian wrote:

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u askin me for sources. where ur sources b at! im not trynna argue, jus discussin, so chill out, who r u callin and idiot, spell it right? if u gonna call somebody that.

First off moint, you never presented any sources of your own except trying to discredit everyone else without facts..
That makes you a coward and fake.

All of posts in the past that I presented should have been enough fro any intelligent person, but you are not in that category.
The Ptomolemys were not an egyptian dynasty in reality...

Africans are the egytians then and now.

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moossii wrote:

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Ta Shitis
You are back again -predictable

God you are a fake....

You are predictable...
always crying and bitching about africans...
I will never present any facts to the likes of you because except only to respond to your lying posts....

But sense you never presented any literary facts or data,...
I don't have to do anything....
because you'll only respond in the same damn way...

"this not true thats not true... and thats all..."
LOL....

“"Luke...... I'm your father!..”

Since: Aug 08

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Fresh Egyptian wrote:

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there is also a wide variety in color for the term "ARAB" they can by light with blue eyes, fair skin, brown skin, red skin, and black. sudanese ppl r considered arab. the word arab doesnt have a stereotypical color. i dint ddeny nubians. yes they are black yes they are a ancient civilization from ancient Egypt, but that wasnt the only civilization that existed. and ur a dumbass. talk with respect, and i will talk with respect, i am willing to b open minded and listen to u if u wouldnt b such an asshole actin like a homo

OK Ok calm down...

I apologize for being overreactive...
Its' just that I see so many posts that are off the mark and most of the are done on purpose... LIke MOist!... LOL...

But her is some facts for you...
http://www2.ac-lille.fr/arabe/images/pays_ara...
To begin with this man is from the 18th dynasty.....
Centuries before the 25th that is claimed by idiot racists as the only African dynasty in Egypt...

Upperegypt is where the Sudanese region is located...
That is where the egyptian dynasty began....
DNA of all of the mummies have confirmed the blood groupings as so called sub saharan African... The same Haplogroup E clade you find in Sudanese, Ethiopia, Somalia and even south of the region. Not to even mention most of western African falls under the same e clades.... So excluding Blacks in america is now out of the question.

http://www.aldokkan.com/egypt/menes.jpg
this man above is the one that started all of the dynasties..
He re-unified Lower egypt with Upper Egypt... He was from the Sudanr region.... The region was known as Ta Seti... My very name... which means "land of the bow"....

His name is Aha.... The Greeks called him Menes....
He did some incredible things as King....

moossii

Ta Setis Revenge wrote:

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God you are a fake....
You are predictable...
always crying and bitching about africans...
I will never present any facts to the likes of you because except only to respond to your lying posts....
But sense you never presented any literary facts or data,...
I don't have to do anything....
because you'll only respond in the same damn way...
"this not true thats not true... and thats all..."
LOL....

Ta Shitis
What have YOU Ever presented aside from inanities and abusive lingo??

Fresh Egyptian

Ta Setis Revenge wrote:

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OK Ok calm down...
I apologize for being overreactive...
Its' just that I see so many posts that are off the mark and most of the are done on purpose... LIke MOist!... LOL...
But her is some facts for you...
http://www2.ac-lille.fr/arabe/images/pays_ara...
To begin with this man is from the 18th dynasty.....
Centuries before the 25th that is claimed by idiot racists as the only African dynasty in Egypt...
Upperegypt is where the Sudanese region is located...
That is where the egyptian dynasty began....
DNA of all of the mummies have confirmed the blood groupings as so called sub saharan African... The same Haplogroup E clade you find in Sudanese, Ethiopia, Somalia and even south of the region. Not to even mention most of western African falls under the same e clades.... So excluding Blacks in america is now out of the question.
http://www.aldokkan.com/egypt/menes.jpg
this man above is the one that started all of the dynasties..
He re-unified Lower egypt with Upper Egypt... He was from the Sudanr region.... The region was known as Ta Seti... My very name... which means "land of the bow"....
His name is Aha.... The Greeks called him Menes....
He did some incredible things as King....

i dont deny anything u say,and i know the upper sudan region has connections with ancient egyptains, but im egyptain not black tho so i have no ancient egyptain history connections?? every single person living in egypt is now not egyptain? thats what i dont understand. so r u saying everysingle person in egypt is basically an outsider?? when people claim ancient egyptains were all black, there were never any brown skinned ones, thats what i dont believe? how come other regions in africa do not contain pyramids, only in north africa,(and not talking bout Azetic pyramids in north america)just want to know your reasons??? i belive that nubians were tthere but there r also pictures on walls and statues of people who are brown skin also,(not euro white).

sky777

London, UK

Judged:

How astonishing to find that intelligent people are arguing over the race of a woman who ruled egypt instead of looking at the reasons of why two great empires who co existed naturally and grew in equal stature fell apart. Both rulers of Rome and Egypt where murdered, why not concentrate on the who instead of the what colour questions, as individuals of intellect we must cocure the first of the two issue; takes precenence.
their are a few members of humanity that are trying to prevent global unity as it was many centuries ago, for if would distroy their desire for global power, but as history has shown what goes up usaully finds its way down. Gravity always remains constant.

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