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Jul 11, 2009
 
David Newport News wrote:
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Isn't this just a legal harang about contracts,...who is allowed to contract to obligation and who is not? Now that the contract is written, maybe it should be harder to negate the contract!
silly boy...don't you know by now that the bible Does NOT apply to the christians...they do what they want....the bible quotes they use all the time only apply to gays....apparently.

Christians love to quote the bible to condemn everyone else..but they don't follow their own rules....Divorce will never be hard to get because THAT would affect almost every so called straight married christian....and we can't have THAT now can we?....
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silly boy...don't you know by now that the bible Does NOT apply to the christians...they do what they want....the bible quotes they use all the time only apply to gays....apparently.
Christians love to quote the bible to condemn everyone else..but they don't follow their own rules....Divorce will never be hard to get because THAT would affect almost every so called straight married christian....and we can't have THAT now can we?....
I think there is a reference in the Bible that illustrates all that profess do not abide with what is required. Not all that say and/or refer to the Bible are "christian", and if they were, they would be more convincing in attitude and argument. You would not be offended, but interested in a God that will forgive and accept all who accept him and abide in his commandments. It is a mindset that would require true belief however!

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I think there is a reference in the Bible that illustrates all that profess do not abide with what is required. Not all that say and/or refer to the Bible are "christian", and if they were, they would be more convincing in attitude and argument. You would not be offended, but interested in a God that will forgive and accept all who accept him and abide in his commandments. It is a mindset that would require true belief however!
religion is just like holding on for dear life to a heavy boulder in the middle of a raging river.

Faith is learning how to swim.

too bad these religious nutbags don't get that... and they will never feel what true life is all about for they will waste their entire lives...holding on to that rock, and never moving.

I learned early on how to swim, and I will never need the security of that rock ..
and life is great.
and unlike religious freaks, I am allowed to view the world through many different points of view.

the only view they will ever know is their precious rock.

and unfortunately for them...the waters are getting higher...and soon their rock will not be able to save them.
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Jul 12, 2009
 
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religion is just like holding on for dear life to a heavy boulder in the middle of a raging river.
Faith is learning how to swim.
too bad these religious nutbags don't get that... and they will never feel what true life is all about for they will waste their entire lives...holding on to that rock, and never moving.
I learned early on how to swim, and I will never need the security of that rock ..
and life is great.
and unlike religious freaks, I am allowed to view the world through many different points of view.
the only view they will ever know is their precious rock.
and unfortunately for them...the waters are getting higher...and soon their rock will not be able to save them.
Amen
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Jul 12, 2009
 
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locking the doors, even after you're out of the car, is not cooperating with the officer. in fact, it's in direct violation to a command by an duly sworn officer of the law. he ordered you to allow him free access to the vehicle and yet you locked the doors. does that sound, even slightly, intelligent to you?
Speeding is not probable cause to search a vehicle.

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Jul 12, 2009
 
dances with weebles wrote:
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locking the doors, even after you're out of the car, is not cooperating with the officer. in fact, it's in direct violation to a command by an duly sworn officer of the law. he ordered you to allow him free access to the vehicle and yet you locked the doors. does that sound, even slightly, intelligent to you?
According to Louisiana law my car is a extension of my home not allowed to be searched without a search warrant.
Louisiana is under the laws of Napolon Bonaparte even though it may be in the United States it is allowed to keep it's pre Louisiana purchase laws.
According to our legal system the warrent must be executed before a officer may search you automobile or home.
No officer is allowed to push his way into your home if you refuse them entry.
They may lie to you to get a confession or to produce evidence to link you to a crime.
So every cop you emcounter is suspect since they don't have to be honest.
So if a cop is lying about one thing how can you be sure he isn't lying about everything he testifies to in open court.
By the way I just settled the lawsuit aginst that officer and my former employer.
So that is proof I was innocent doesn't it innocent people don't pay damages to the damaged party if they are truly innocent.
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Jul 12, 2009
 
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You first. Never mention your wife and kids in public again, take down all the pictures of your family from your workplace, no signs of affection in public, no overtly sexual jokes with your buddies in public about your sex life,... yeah, I didn't think so. We have every right to have significant others and to be proud of them as you do. And you can bet I am not going to deny my significant other affection just because some homophobic prude might be offended that we are holding hands or kissing or talking about each other or whatever.
How mundane of you to mention "handholding/kissing ", when what you are vying for to be able to do in public...is that, and more. I don't put up pictures of my family at work. And quite honestly, I find overtly sexual jokes stupid and immature. My sex life is nobody's business but mine, and whoever I'm with.

You can do whatever you want...as you HAVE been doing. And so will we.

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Jul 12, 2009
 
SSracing wrote:
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How mundane of you to mention "handholding/kissing ", when what you are vying for to be able to do in public...is that, and more. I don't put up pictures of my family at work. And quite honestly, I find overtly sexual jokes stupid and immature. My sex life is nobody's business but mine, and whoever I'm with.
You can do whatever you want...as you HAVE been doing. And so will we.
well I am 42 years old, and I have NEVER EVER been out to a restaurant or to a movie, or to a park, where straights were NOT making out or practically sitting on each others laps....but I guess you believe that's ok for all of the rest of the world to have to watch?...
well good for you...get used to us doing right back.

oh look..here comes dessert...bend over honey.....

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Jul 12, 2009
 
deeter1013 wrote:
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well I am 42 years old, and I have NEVER EVER been out to a restaurant or to a movie, or to a park, where straights were NOT making out or practically sitting on each others laps....but I guess you believe that's ok for all of the rest of the world to have to watch?...
well good for you...get used to us doing right back.
oh look..here comes dessert...bend over honey.....
That may be the "Norm" in California, pal. We who are not of the "Left Coast" do NOT appreciate public displays of wanton sexual promiscuity or obnoxious public displays of profanity. I have had many "conversations" in public with people that feel no need to restrain themselves in front of my children. Funny how when you invite them to continue the discussion outside, they always decline, leave or behave themselves.
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Jul 12, 2009
 
deeter1013 wrote:
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well I am 42 years old, and I have NEVER EVER been out to a restaurant or to a movie, or to a park, where straights were NOT making out or practically sitting on each others laps....but I guess you believe that's ok for all of the rest of the world to have to watch?...
well good for you...get used to us doing right back.
oh look..here comes dessert...bend over honey.....
Well dang....I would have figured that you could reason as to why people do this to the levels that they do. As for myself, I don't have to get used to anything. It's my prerogative to disapprove. Besides, homosexuals will never be able to get away with that kind of raciness due to the mentality of most heterosexual men if you subject them to that. In public.
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David Newport News wrote:
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I think there is a reference in the Bible that illustrates all that profess do not abide with what is required. Not all that say and/or refer to the Bible are "christian", and if they were, they would be more convincing in attitude and argument. You would not be offended, but interested in a God that will forgive and accept all who accept him and abide in his commandments. It is a mindset that would require true belief however!
They don't respond to kindness, or compassion. That has already been tried and proven. And also, love and compassion are only two of the many qualities of a Christian. If it is determined that a Christian, or anyone else who informs you of these things is wrong, or mean, or judgmental...then what ever are they going to do when they end up in the place where they will have put themselves...the place where they are adamant that they will not go, for eternity?

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SSracing wrote:
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Well dang....I would have figured that you could reason as to why people do this to the levels that they do. As for myself, I don't have to get used to anything. It's my prerogative to disapprove. Besides, homosexuals will never be able to get away with that kind of raciness due to the mentality of most heterosexual men if you subject them to that. In public.
Two weeks ago, it was illegal to be LGBT in India - today, some are talking about gay marriage!

AUSTRALIA:
The Rudd Government has announced a Senate Inquiry into same-sex marriage.
CANADA:
As of Sept. 1, the Anglican diocese of Niagara will allow its priests to bless same-gender couples who have been civilly married.
CHINA:
Against Tradition, Chinese Couple Advocates for Gay Son
CZECH REPUBLIC:
Nearly three-fourths of Czechs agree that gays and lesbians should be allowed to conclude registered partnerships, according to the CVVM poll released to CTK Tuesday.
GUAM:
After several controversial town hall meetings were held on legislation that would allow for same-sex civil unions on Guam, Acting Speaker of the 30th Guam Legislature B.J. Cruz has introduced an amended version of Bill 138.
INDIA:
Just a week after a New Delhi court decriminalised homosexuality, the first gay "marriage" has taken place in India. Amrit and Jeeta, both 18, tied the knot at the Shiridi temple in the north Indian city of Chandigarh
UNITED KINGDOM:
A SENIOR Scottish clergyman has "come out" and launched a campaign for gay couples to be given the right to get married in church.
USA:
The National Education Association, the nation's largest labor union, has endorsed marriage equality
USA, IOWA:
Iowa Now a Big Draw for Gay Weddings,
USA, MARYLAND:
Maryland governor Martin O'Malley said Monday that he is open to recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states
USA, MASSACHUSETTS:
Attorney General Martha Coakley is suing the U.S. government to force it to extend a wide range of benefits to some 16,000 gay and lesbian couples legally married in Massachusetts.
USA, MISSOURI:
The Kansas City Star ended almost two months of controversy by publishing the marriage announcement of a same-sex couple this past weekend.
USA, PENNSYLVANIA:
Pennsylvania state Sen. Daylin Leach introduced legislation to legalize marriage for gay and lesbian couples.
USA, WISCONSIN:
With the budget signed Monday by Gov. Jim Doyle, Wisconsin has become the first state with a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage and civil unions to put in place domestic partnerships for same-sex couples.

seems that our meek little 2% of the gay population is steam rolling the other 98%..!!!
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Jul 12, 2009
 
raised in redlands wrote:
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According to Louisiana law my car is a extension of my home not allowed to be searched without a search warrant.
Louisiana is under the laws of Napolon Bonaparte even though it may be in the United States it is allowed to keep it's pre Louisiana purchase laws.
According to our legal system the warrent must be executed before a officer may search you automobile or home.
No officer is allowed to push his way into your home if you refuse them entry.
They may lie to you to get a confession or to produce evidence to link you to a crime.
So every cop you emcounter is suspect since they don't have to be honest.
So if a cop is lying about one thing how can you be sure he isn't lying about everything he testifies to in open court.
By the way I just settled the lawsuit aginst that officer and my former employer.
So that is proof I was innocent doesn't it innocent people don't pay damages to the damaged party if they are truly innocent.
Lol...OJ? He was acquitted in criminal court, but you must be one of the few that believes he was innocent.
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deeter1013 wrote:
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Two weeks ago, it was illegal to be LGBT in India - today, some are talking about gay marriage!
AUSTRALIA:
The Rudd Government has announced a Senate Inquiry into same-sex marriage.
CANADA:
As of Sept. 1, the Anglican diocese of Niagara will allow its priests to bless same-gender couples who have been civilly married.
CHINA:
Against Tradition, Chinese Couple Advocates for Gay Son
CZECH REPUBLIC:
Nearly three-fourths of Czechs agree that gays and lesbians should be allowed to conclude registered partnerships, according to the CVVM poll released to CTK Tuesday.
GUAM:
After several controversial town hall meetings were held on legislation that would allow for same-sex civil unions on Guam, Acting Speaker of the 30th Guam Legislature B.J. Cruz has introduced an amended version of Bill 138.
INDIA:
Just a week after a New Delhi court decriminalised homosexuality, the first gay "marriage" has taken place in India. Amrit and Jeeta, both 18, tied the knot at the Shiridi temple in the north Indian city of Chandigarh
UNITED KINGDOM:
A SENIOR Scottish clergyman has "come out" and launched a campaign for gay couples to be given the right to get married in church.
USA:
The National Education Association, the nation's largest labor union, has endorsed marriage equality
USA, IOWA:
Iowa Now a Big Draw for Gay Weddings,
USA, MARYLAND:
Maryland governor Martin O'Malley said Monday that he is open to recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states
USA, MASSACHUSETTS:
Attorney General Martha Coakley is suing the U.S. government to force it to extend a wide range of benefits to some 16,000 gay and lesbian couples legally married in Massachusetts.
USA, MISSOURI:
The Kansas City Star ended almost two months of controversy by publishing the marriage announcement of a same-sex couple this past weekend.
USA, PENNSYLVANIA:
Pennsylvania state Sen. Daylin Leach introduced legislation to legalize marriage for gay and lesbian couples.
USA, WISCONSIN:
With the budget signed Monday by Gov. Jim Doyle, Wisconsin has become the first state with a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage and civil unions to put in place domestic partnerships for same-sex couples.
seems that our meek little 2% of the gay population is steam rolling the other 98%..!!!
I think it also works the other way, remember the argument Abraham had with God about the salvation of Sodom,...if he could only get, what was it, 10 righteous men, and God would not destroy the city? So it would seem that percentages work in inordinate ways. It is an adventure watching the society evolve! Any thoughts on 2012?

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raised in redlands wrote:
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According to Louisiana law my car is a extension of my home not allowed to be searched without a search warrant.
Louisiana is under the laws of Napolon Bonaparte even though it may be in the United States it is allowed to keep it's pre Louisiana purchase laws.
According to our legal system the warrent must be executed before a officer may search you automobile or home.
No officer is allowed to push his way into your home if you refuse them entry.
They may lie to you to get a confession or to produce evidence to link you to a crime.
So every cop you emcounter is suspect since they don't have to be honest.
So if a cop is lying about one thing how can you be sure he isn't lying about everything he testifies to in open court.
By the way I just settled the lawsuit aginst that officer and my former employer.
So that is proof I was innocent doesn't it innocent people don't pay damages to the damaged party if they are truly innocent.
Do the police need a warrant to search my car?

Usually, the police do not need a warrant to search a car. The rules for entering or searching a car are very different from the rules for searching your home. In order to legally search a car, the police need either:

* "Probable cause"- this means the police must have a reasonable belief that evidence or contraband will be found in the car.

your car is NOT considered private property. it's transportation.

'reasonable belief' that you may be hiding something is all they need to search the car. by stepping out and locking the doors you are providing that belief due to the fact that if you have nothing to hide you wouldn't mind letting them look. it follows simple logic.

also, you haven't explained why you were singled out in the middle of rush hour traffic to be harassed.

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Jul 12, 2009
 
oh, and here's this bit, too...

US police do not need a search warrant to search a vehicle they stop on the road or in a non-residential area if they have probable cause to believe it contains contraband or evidence of a crime. In that case, police may search the passenger compartment, trunk, and any containers inside the vehicle capable of holding the suspected article. By comparison, under Australian law, police can exhaustively search any vehicle on a public road, and any electronic devices therein (mobile phone, computer), without the responsible persons' permission, for evidence of criminal acts, with or without proof or suspicion of any kind.

Police do not need a search warrant, or even probable cause, to perform a limited search of a suspect's outer clothing for weapons, if police have a reasonable suspicion to justify the intrusion - a Terry 'stop and frisk.'

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lifes a beach wrote:
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Lol...OJ? He was acquitted in criminal court, but you must be one of the few that believes he was innocent.
I lived in L.A. at the time I don't believe OJ was innocent.
In my book it set a precedent for certain people to believe they can commit any crime they want withour fear of retribution.
Personally I think that man was a nothing more then a murdering racist thug.
Yes racist he murdered two white people and set precedents fro others of his race to commit crimes against white people and expect not to pay for it.
Murder is Murder and when a black person commits a crime on a white person.
They should be charged and tried for a hate crime and if convicted executed so it sends a message it will not be tolerated.

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too bad these religious nutbags don't get that... and they will never feel what true life is all about for they will waste their entire lives...holding on to that rock, and never moving.
I learned early on how to swim, and I will never need the security of that rock ..
and life is great.
and unlike religious freaks, I am allowed to view the world through many different points of view.
the only view they will ever know is their precious rock.
and unfortunately for them...the waters are getting higher...and soon their rock will not be able to save them.
"...religion is just like holding on for dear life to a heavy boulder in the middle of a raging river."

Gee, that was so beautiful.

"Faith is learning how to swim."

Faith is for idiots.

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Jul 13, 2009
 
Exposethem wrote:
<quoted text> Speeding is not probable cause to search a vehicle.
An officer has the right to search your vehicle if he wants, and I don't think that he needs probable cause.
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Krabi wrote:
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An officer has the right to search your vehicle if he wants, and I don't think that he needs probable cause.
They do in Texas.They ask permission,and if denied,they usually use a K-9 unit to detect probable cause.
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