Is it racism or is it facts????

I am so tired of reading comments on here in which someone makes references to people committing crimes and calling them either thugs,criminals, city trash, etc and then some moron saying that person is racist. What Losers!!! The reason they feel this way is they are probably one of them.

Whoever NAACP SUPPORTER is the biggest idiot I have ever heard. I am tired of black people begging for equal rights and wanting reparations from the past. How about instead of trying to get something for free from past problems, try earning it.

Jesse Jackson and other dipshits like him only make racism worse!! Is there anything worse than hearing a black woman complain in the walgreens line, who just pulled up in an escalade, complain that to the pharmecist that her birth control should be free and not the 3 bucks it costs her. It costs me 50 dollars and I don't have an escalade. I don't have government funding or and ebt card.

I am seriously considering writing a book on why the black man is failing.#1 Lack of education.

Instead of driving a $50,000 car. Buy a house. Don't live in your parents basement or live in a section 8 home. It is not about the flash, it is about investing. What seems to me is that black people don't understand is that a car is not an investment, and rims are a waste of money. Or how about teaching the women that it is not a respectible way of life to have as many kids as you want and not be able to afford them by 5 different baby daddys. I think women teach eachother that if you have a bunch of kids then the government will just pay for you. Why Work?? Why go to college?? live it easy.

Whatever happened to "if you don't work, You don't eat"? In my oppinion, and this goes to all races, what makes you disabled? If your in a wheel chair can you not answer phones such as a telemarketer. The U.S. gives away disability like t-shirts at a ball game. I see people that get disability that are perfectly capable of working and I am enraged!!

As far as crime statistics goes and all the support for minorities saying, "anyone could do those crimes"....... here ya go, read this!!

Using statistics from the US Department of Justice and the US Census Bureau these are the calculated actual rates of violent interracial crimes.

US Census Bureau - 2006 Population Estimates

Total 299,398,485 (100.00 %)
White 198,176,991 (66.19 %)
Black 37,051,483 (12.38 %)

Blacks are 31.07 times more likely to commit a violent crime against Whites than vice versa.

Blacks are 119.64 times more likely to commit a robbery against Whites than vice versa.

Blacks are >17,353 times more likely to commit a rape/sexual assault against Whites than vice versa.

No this is not a typo.

1 in 77 Whites is a victim of violent black on White crime every year.

So given the average life expectancy this means you have a 63.9% chance of being a victim of black on White crime during your lifetime.

Before any of you politically correct robots call me a racist, I am citing DOJ statistics and the US census.

mrsright wrote:

I am so tired of reading comments on here in which someone makes references to people committing crimes and calling them either thugs,criminals, city trash, etc and then some moron saying that person is racist. What Losers!!! The reason they feel this way is they are probably one of them.....Before any of you politically correct robots call me a racist, I am citing DOJ statistics and the US census.

I hope you're ready for the attacks that are about to be levied against you. If this thread is like most of the Topix threads, the name calling and personal attackes will begin before the tenth post.

Nice post. Of course you will be "hated on" by people like NAACP Supporter, but as far as I can see if you sneeze in the direction of a black person people will consider you a racist. I'm not a racist but I will be labled one just for responding to you. The fact is people of all races are taking advantage of government handouts.

Good work.

mrsright wrote:

I am so tired of reading comments on here in which someone makes references to people committing crimes and calling them either thugs,criminals, city trash, etc and then some moron saying that person is racist. What Losers!!! The reason they feel this way is they are probably one of them...
...Before any of you politically correct robots call me a racist, I am citing DOJ statistics and the US census.

Quoting "facts" does not mean that you are or are not racist.
Facts by themselves or facts out of context to the entire discussion do not always provide a complete picture.
If we knew it was a fact that a woman killed her spouse.
If we knew it was a fact that the woman's spouse was abusive and given to angry violent outbursts.
If we knew it was a fact that the woman's mother was killed by her abusive father.
We still do not know enough facts to make a clear judgment on the woman in such a case.
And even if we had a lot more facts, the actual situation may still be much more convoluted or complex and still not present a clear course in arriving at a judgment.
Merely stating a lot of facts or statistics as you did does not explain the "why" behind the statistics.
How you interpret the facts and statistics or how you use them to build your argument is how one might decide if you area a racist.
If young people studied racism in schools as much as they studied math or science or any other subject, I might expect people to have a better understanding of the depth of the subject.
But when I hear or see most people talk or write about racism, it often sounds like many of the things I hear people say about subjects like medicine or astronomy. It sounds like their ideas are built around limited knowledge of the subject.

sounds like facts to me!

flo mo wrote:

sounds like facts to me!

What sounds like facts to you?
Your post makes you sound like you are a bit on the "slow" side of the bell curve.

Kirk wrote:

<quoted text>
What sounds like facts to you?
Your post makes you sound like you are a bit on the "slow" side of the bell curve.

um.. the title of the post maybe "is it racism or facts?"
thanks for your input Kirk sorry i'm not as bright as you.

Kirk wrote:

<quoted text>
What sounds like facts to you?
Your post makes you sound like you are a bit on the "slow" side of the bell curve.

Whoops! If he's on the slow side of the curve - NO KIDS FOR HIM!!!

I would tend to agree that if I were a victim of a crime today that the person or persons committiing the crime will be black. I don't give a rats a55 if it makes me racist or not.

Dear msright,
It is well known those are fabricated stats originating from a known hate site blog entry and then propagated to others. You did not even have the decency to cite your source given you even knew where it came from. I found it with a simple Google search. For Example:
“Blacks are 119.64 times more likely to commit a robbery against Whites”

Let’s back up a little and look at the raw data from the table you derived your skewed statistic from.

For the given year 08, it showed there were 3,699360 reported violent crimes committed against whites for whom 69.3 percent were white offenders and 13% were black offenders. According to your population estimates based on race, it represents an almost equal distribution. So you can look at it this way, if you are white, your chances of being the victim of a violent crime by a white or black person are equal based on race distribution.

If you want the real stats, then I suggest you visit http://www.ojp.gov and have someone interpret them for you.

While crime is a serious concern in the black community, violent crime rates for blacks and whites have steadily declined since 1994 although the mainstream media would have you believe otherwise. If you are as intelligent as you claim to be, you should have no problem finding that data.

Half of your statement was right Mr. Welby.

Crab wrote:

Nice post. Of course you will be "hated on" by people like NAACP Supporter, but as far as I can see if you sneeze in the direction of a black person people will consider you a racist. I'm not a racist but I will be labled one just for responding to you. The fact is people of all races are taking advantage of government handouts.
Good work.

Once again its ok to speak out on one side of an issue but not the other. Its ok for blacks to play the race card but not whites. Its ok for athiest to speak their distain for God, but Christians cant without losing their jobs. It happens too much. Its a travesty and a tragedy, and there is no end.

Crab wrote:

<quoted text>
Once again its ok to speak out on one side of an issue but not the other. Its ok for blacks to play the race card but not whites. Its ok for athiest to speak their distain for God, but Christians cant without losing their jobs. It happens too much. Its a travesty and a tragedy, and there is no end.

This should say...
Its ok for athiest to speak their distain for God, but Christians cant show their love for God without losing their jobs.

So Sad wrote:

Dear msright,
It is well known those are fabricated stats originating from a known hate site blog entry and then propagated to others. You did not even have the decency to cite your source given you even knew where it came from. I found it with a simple Google search. For Example:
“Blacks are 119.64 times more likely to commit a robbery against Whites”
Let’s back up a little and look at the raw data from the table you derived your skewed statistic from.
For the given year 08, it showed there were 3,699360 reported violent crimes committed against whites for whom 69.3 percent were white offenders and 13% were black offenders. According to your population estimates based on race, it represents an almost equal distribution. So you can look at it this way, if you are white, your chances of being the victim of a violent crime by a white or black person are equal based on race distribution.
If you want the real stats, then I suggest you visit http://www.ojp.gov and have someone interpret them for you.
While crime is a serious concern in the black community, violent crime rates for blacks and whites have steadily declined since 1994 although the mainstream media would have you believe otherwise. If you are as intelligent as you claim to be, you should have no problem finding that data.
Half of your statement was right Mr. Welby.

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/glance/race.htm

Crab wrote:

<quoted text>
This should say...
Its ok for athiest to speak their distain for God, but Christians cant show their love for God without losing their jobs.

Do not even tell me you feel persecuted. The vast majority of people in this country are Christian or believe in some sort of god. Atheists are a very tiny minority, but alas the also happen to be many scientists, news reporters, and other educated/famous people. I honestly do not feel like I can ever state my lack of religious beliefs for fear of unjust discrimination - most people are not receptive.

fddfs wrote:

<quoted text>
Do not even tell me you feel persecuted. The vast majority of people in this country are Christian or believe in some sort of god. Atheists are a very tiny minority, but alas the also happen to be many scientists, news reporters, and other educated/famous people. I honestly do not feel like I can ever state my lack of religious beliefs for fear of unjust discrimination - most people are not receptive.

Did I say I felt persecuted. NO. I did not, you are putting words into my mouth. That may be your situation with your religious beliefs but more often than not the stories that make it to the news are the stories like the Home Depot employee who got fired for wearing a patriotic/Christian pin after months upon months of wearing it.

Crab wrote:

<quoted text>
Did I say I felt persecuted. NO. I did not, you are putting words into my mouth. That may be your situation with your religious beliefs but more often than not the stories that make it to the news are the stories like the Home Depot employee who got fired for wearing a patriotic/Christian pin after months upon months of wearing it.

Try telling your boss you are an atheist and see how he reacts.
I made the mistake admitting I was a non-believer at a job when asked to come to a lunchtime prayer group.
I lost my job a short time later. It was a layoff but a few "good Christians" with less time on the job, less experience, less education and weaker work and attendance records kept their jobs. But it could have just been my bad attitude, the same attitude that got me a few "employee of the month" awards.
Since that time I always find plausible excuses for not participating in religious activities and I either avoid the subject or say I was raised by a good Christian family, which is the truth.
An atheist stands to risks much by telling believers about their non-belief especially when those believers are their superiors at work or in organizations.
I wonder how Catholics would do if 70 percent of Americans were Jewish and most employees and coworkers were Jewish?

Contraire wrote:

<quoted text>
if 70 percent of Americans were Jewish and most employees and coworkers were Jewish?

Happy Hanukkah!

About the assult/interracial issue, sure theres a great chance you will get assulted by SOMEONE (especially with that emotionally charged loud femenist mouth on you) in your lifetime wheather it be black, white, hispanic, asian etc..
but does it really matter WHO does the assulting?
Your post sounds more like your living in the 1960's rather than 2009, which is ashame considering you are trying to belittle an entire race all the while you clearly dont understand life to begin with.

Who needs census to figure this out. Look around at the different race behaviors and a lot of their out look on life and how to get to the white man's jobs without further educating themselves. Yeah...other than the white race can have equal treatment but they have to work as hard as any othe race to get it done. Further the education so they can pass tests that will earn them an interview and go from there. It's really simple and much safer than doing what some are doing on the street to survive - if they survive, You don't have to be white to figure all that out.

Why is it that a black comedian can tell jokes about race, but if a white comedian does he's a racist. Blacks playing the race card is getting really old! If blacks think they have it so bad in the U.S. and are so proud of being of African decent they need to take a trip to Africa and see how they like it. Every race in the world has been opressed at one time or another, blacks need to get over it. In my opinion the reason whites dislike blacks so much is disrespect for whites, disrespect for society, hell disrespect for each other. The old saying "there goes the neighborhood", more disrespect, for property and for their neighbors. Mrsright was correct about spending all their money on bling, it's pathetic when you can "rent" wheels for your car. How about maintaining your house and buying your own food instead of sponging off the government. All this may be obvious to most but it's the ones that it isn't obvious too are part of the problem. Yes, I am a racist, I learned it from black people! And that's a fact!! OK, release the haters and P.C. goody goodies.

I'm in your corner all the way. I'm a racist,and for DAMN good reason. All the reasons every other white guy knows but fears to state. As a kid,growing in NorF St Lou,and I use the word Lou as the British use it. I saw siblings thumped on by the incoming hoard of blacks,for no reason. I saw the crime rate spiral when the hoard moved in. I saw my oldman take a beating on his house when he tried to sell,not once,but twice. I saw the hoard produce nothing of value way back then,and 60 years later,they still produce nothing of value. They bring nothing to the table but chaos and mayhem. I avoid them every chance I get. I observe their ignorant behaviour everywhere in public. They are RUDE and totally non caring,even to each other,and that's the way it is. Later

LoneWolf wrote:

Why is it that a black comedian can tell jokes about race, but if a white comedian does he's a racist. Blacks playing the race card is getting really old! If blacks think they have it so bad in the U.S. and are so proud of being of African decent they need to take a trip to Africa and see how they like it. Every race in the world has been opressed at one time or another, blacks need to get over it. In my opinion the reason whites dislike blacks so much is disrespect for whites, disrespect for society, hell disrespect for each other. The old saying "there goes the neighborhood", more disrespect, for property and for their neighbors. Mrsright was correct about spending all their money on bling, it's pathetic when you can "rent" wheels for your car. How about maintaining your house and buying your own food instead of sponging off the government. All this may be obvious to most but it's the ones that it isn't obvious too are part of the problem. Yes, I am a racist, I learned it from black people! And that's a fact!! OK, release the haters and P.C. goody goodies.