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Holly Golightly
Plano, TX
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Editor: Dallas Morning News Re: Lisa Virgoe’s(Lucas, TX) Commentary: Well said and necessary, too. Ms. Virgoe effectively illustrates the sheer effortlessness with which one can irrevocably shatter the life of another human being, all without leaving home. Unfortunately, the platform to do so isn’t limited to FaceBook, text messaging and e-mail. The shattering (or attempted thereof) of someone's life is seen countless times a day on countless blog forums. Ms. Virgoe isn't saying one shouldn't have opinions or the freedom to express them. Nor is she saying one shouldn't speak out about that which he/she fervently believes. Perhaps assuming critical thinking on behalf of the reader, what Ms. Virgoe doesn’t say is that there is a difference between the two. To voice an opinion about an issue meaningful to oneself; particularly if he/she genuinely believes variables involved in that issue have (or could) cause harm to someone else is one thing. But unremitting, merciless efforts to publicly extinguish every shred of dignity of another human being is not “voicing an opinion or expressing freedom of speech.” It's a calculated murder of the soul.
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Holly Golightly
Plano, TX
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Lisa Virgoe,(Lucas, TX) How Much is Your Reputation Worth? http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/n...
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Holly Golightly
Plano, TX
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Space: Thank you so much for the advice. ou're right. I do need to find a hobby; its a terrible thing to support a police department, especially a member whose life was unjustly turned upside down and inside out. Please forgive me. Again, thank you for your input. I'll be forever indebted to your wisdom and thoughtfulness.
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Holly Golightly
Plano, TX
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Space: Oops forgive me again. I made a typing error. That should have been "You're; not ou're. But then again, since we're both proficient in French, maybe you didn't notice. Love you anyway.:)
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Guilty as Charged
Plano, TX
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Holly Golightly wrote: Sometimes, to the chagrin of those I love, I write. And I write and write and write. For years, I've written under a host of pseudonyms in a variety of mediums for reasons irrelevant here.
Even so, I realize many on these threads know my identity. But sometimes, it cannot matter whether my identity is known or not. Among those are when I believe with all my heart someone has been senselessly hurt/and or abused.
It's then that one must decide whether to step out on a limb, or play it safe for the sake of self-preservation.
Case in point is MPD Capt. Ron Jones, whose name has been maligned both in a news printing and in a privately owned web site, the latter viewed over 4,000 people in the community he works and lives.
However, simultaneous to the belief that Capt. Jones was senselessly hurt is the belief that the owner of the web site meant no harm, and in fact, had every intention of making changes upon it being brought to her attention.
For the record, just because a newspaper prints an article, does NOT mean its true. NOR does it mean the story is accurate.
Unbeknownst to the reading public, failure to retract a news story can mean the maligned party took the high road as is the case with Capt. Ron Jones, who was simply gracious enough to let it pass. Failure to retract a story could also mean the reporter made an honest mistake in failing to fully substantiate the allegations and editors decided it was in the best interest of the maligned party to let the story die a natural death. It’s also possible that unbeknownst to the public, a reporter might privately make amends with the offended party. The point is, just because a newspaper printed it, doesn’t mean it’s true.
Worth noting too, the article referencing Capt Ron Jones was inordinately brief. It was never fully developed. Nor did it grow legs. An experienced writer would suspect there was more to the story assuming the reporter was smart enough to back off. Understandably, unless one has written for a newspaper, magazine, etc. he/she may not notice such subtleties. I don’t know. But I do know that while the story was quickly dropped, the web site referencing both his name and a link to the article rendered Capt. Ron Jones the subject of false accusations on a permanent basis on a 24/7.
His only option for vindication was a retaliatory response on a publicly held blog, or…litigation for slander. Notice, Capt. Jones did neither. He quietly suffered what would have been bone crushing humiliation and gut wrenching embarrassment to anyone else.
Trust were MPD to allow publication of the real facts, I’d be first in line to write the story. But they won’t so I can’t.
However I have every reason to believe the owner of the web site is in the process of making changes. Until then, I did what any independent, free spirited dilettante would do: I stepped out on a limb, knowing when I fall, it will have been for a good reason: Capt. Jones and MPD as a whole deserve better.
Chin up MPD Captain Ron Jones. Remember: to share in Christ’s glory is to share in His suffering. Or something like that. Blah, Blah blah. Google Ron Jones McKinney suspended. and you'll come up with at least ten different news articles reporting the same thing. To include statements made by Meridith Ladd, the city's lawyer and legal spokesperson, which confirm his suspension and the reason for it. Holly, if you are going to talk about murder, try not murdering the truth.
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Strreet Creds
Plano, TX
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Ron Jones = disciplined for harassment. Holly = zero credibility.
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Soul Survivor
Plano, TX
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While we are on the subject of “Murdering Souls”. Explain how this kid, lying on the ground after a suspicious 30 foot fall was tasered up to 19 times. According to police “story”,“He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him.” Of course their “explanation” ignores the fact that the kid had fallen 30 feet, was prone on the ground and had a broken neck among other life threatening injuries. Guess in addition to his life being nearly snuffed out, his “soul” was too. The “officers” sure must have been in horrible fear for their lives……….. http://www.ky3.com/home/video/25829234.html Parents question why Ozark police used stun gun on injured son Video OZARK, Mo.-- A family wants answers about what happened to their son that left him hospitalized. Early Saturday morning, police found Mace Hutchinson, 16, underneath the Highway F overpass over U.S. 65. Mace ended up in intensive care at a hospital. His parents believe the actions of Ozark police officers contributed to his injuries and slowed doctors’ abilities to speed his recovery. By the time officers arrived, the teen was off the 30-foot overpass, lying on the shoulder below along U.S. 65, with no good explanation as to how he got there. “According to the doctors, all injuries are consistent with a fall,” said his aunt, Samantha. Mace's dad believes it was just that, a fall, not a jump. The question is why. “They tested his system. He was clean of drugs and alcohol. We don't know why unless just being in shock and the whole thing in itself caused him to forget everything,” said Hutchinson. His aunt says he is undergoing major surgery for a broken back and broken heel. While he was lying on the ground, she wonders why Ozark police used an electric stun gun on him up to 19 times. “I'm not an officer, but i don't see the reason for ‘Tasering’ somebody laying there with a broken back. I don't consider that a threat,” His dad says the use of the stun gun delayed what would have been immediate surgery by two days. “The ‘Tasering’ increased his white blood cell count and caused him to have a temperature so they could not go into the operation.” “He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him. He is making incoherent statements; he's also making statements such as,‘Shoot cops, kill cops,’ things like that. So there was cause for concern to the officers,” said Ozark Police Capt. Thomas Rousset. Police say although there are several unanswered questions; the reason for the use of a stun gun is not one of them. “It's a big concern for the officers to keep this guy out of traffic, to keep him from getting hurt,” said Rousset.{so we tasered the living sh-t out of him while he was laying on the ground with a broken neck} Mace was still in intensive care on Wednesday night, listed in fair condition. He was scheduled for surgery again on Thursday.“
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Truth Threatened
United States
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While you're making threats against people expressing their opinions based on reported facts by numerous credible sources, thought you could opine on this "murdered soul":
Richard Brown.
After a tip from an informant stating that he was selling drugs from his home, a Miami SWAT team bursts into the home of 73-year-old retired salesman Richard Brown, and immediately begins firing.
By the end of the raid, they'd pumped 123 rounds into Brown and his apartment, killing him at the scene. Brown's 14-year-old great-granddaughter was also home at the time of the raid, and cowered in the bathroom during the gunfire.
Police found no drugs in Brown's home.
The city of Miami would later pay a $2.5 million settlement to Brown's estate after officers on the raiding SWAT team were indicted for lying about the details of the raid.
Former Miami Internal Affairs supervisor and 25-year police veteran John Dalton, now retired, told the Miami Herald that the Internal Affairs supervisor at the time of the raid, William O'Brien, discouraged a thorough investigation of the Brown case.
"They were very defensive about this shooting from the beginning," Dalton said, adding that he'd been "chewed out" by O'Brien for asking difficult questions.
Source:
"Four cops convicted in Miami," St. Petersburg Times.
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But surely the fact that a man was killed, four swat cops convicted, cops lied, lawyers made public statements confirming what happened and millions paid out really means the real story is being hidden by the PD doesn't it?
After all, the newspapers covered it, the cops were punished. But surely this department can't tell us the true story of how none of this actually happened and the cops are really innocent, huh lady? So let's threaten the people who reported on it with lawsuits because you can't handle the truth.
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Cause For Threats
United States
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McKinney Police Captain Suspended In May Cited For Inappropriate Behavior, Sexual Harassment By Luke Gilliam Managing Editor June 14th, 2007 10:24am “McKinney police Capt. Ron Jones, head of the patrol division, served a five-day suspension, ending May 4, for violations regarding professional conduct and sexual harassment, the department’s attorney (Meredith Ladd) said. Jones, who has been with the department since 1996, was cited for four (4, count 'em FOUR)incidents by an internal investigation. Attorney Meredith Ladd would not give specifics of the incidents, only saying that they were all internal violations within the department and did not involve citizens.” http://mckinneynews.net/news.php ... Poor Ms. Ladd, I guess she's going to get threatened with a lawsuit for telling the truth (lol). Crazy world we live in.
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Link
United States
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http://mckinneynews.net/news.php... The correct link to the post above.
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Please Please Me
United States
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Former Texas Officer Accused Of Indecency With A Child http://www.officer.com/web/online/Internal-Af... $15192 Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 Updated: July 8th, 2008 05:27 PM PDT BILL MILLER Fort Worth Star Telegram via the Associated Press A McKinney police officer accused of indecency with a child allegedly had sex in his patrol car with a 38-year-old woman while her 12-year-old daughter stood nearby, according to court records. Ian Hasselman, 28, was arrested Monday on the indecency charge. He was released from the Collin County Jail a few hours later after posting $10,000 bail. He was unavailable to comment on Tuesday. Indecency with a child is considered a second- or third-degree felony. According to state law, the charge can be applied to those suspected of engaging in sexual contact with a child or those suspected of exposing themselves knowing that a child is present. The second example is considered a third-degree felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000. Police began investigating Hasselman earlier this month and learned about a yearlong relationship he had with the girl's mother, according to an arrest warrant affidavit that was released Tuesday by Charles Sandoval, a Collin County judge. McKinney police officials were unavailable to comment Tuesday. On Monday they said Hasselman no longer worked for the department.(Because when he faced and pled guilty to the charges he was "allowed to resign" - not fired). So tell us ma'am, is this another example of a fine innocent MPD officer who has "suffered what would have been bone crushing humiliation and gut wrenching embarrassment to anyone else"? It must be because you stand for the truth, right? And,this factual story was listed all over the media, it's in the MPD's own records, the city's lawyers said it was true and it was posted "on a public blog". But since it's been posted here, there must be a "hidden story" which the MPD won't tell proving this guy is innocent, according to your logic and yours only. Guess you'll be denying the truth and issuing another very public threat? Please Please Me and do.
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Another Death By SWAT
Frankfurt Am Main, Germany
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ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER DEATH “On May 18, police in Easton, Connecticut conducted a heavily-armed drug raid on the home of Ronald Terebesi, Jr. They began the raid by throwing flashbang (stun) grenades through Terebesi’s windows, then battering down his door and storming the house. Friends say at the time of the raid, 33-year-old Gonzalo Guizan was visiting Terebesi to discuss the possibility of opening an employment business. According to police, the unarmed Guizan charged the raiding swat officers, at which point they shot and killed him. As usual, the police, prosecutors, and state investigators are hunkering down, (see: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm ...) and not talking to the press (see: http://www.connpost.com/localnews/ci_9408498 ) But some information is tricking out. Here’s what we know: • Police found no guns in the home, but did find some cocaine and the two pipes, and have charged Trebesi with possession, which means there wasn’t enough to trigger an automatic charge of distribution. So we have a heavily-armed, paramilitary-style raid conducted based on a tip from a stripper of drug use, not distribution. In the process, a slight, unarmed man runs toward the raiding police officers, and is shot dead. I think it’s safe to say that Guizan likely had no idea the intruders were police.[Who in their right mind would knowingly charge into an army with automatic weapons and throwing grenades?] We’re told over and over that even in no-knock raids, the police announce themselves as they’re coming into the home, and that everyone inside ought to know they’re being raided by cops, not criminal intruders. But if that’s the case, why deploy flash grenades just before making entry? They’re designed to disorient and confuse. That’s the whole reason for using them. You can’t at the same time say it’s necessary to disorient and confuse people, but that they also should hear, recognize, process, and believe the police announcement you make at the same time you’re deploying the concussion grenades. The raid was done within hours of the tip from the stripper, so it’s unlikely the police did much surveillance or attempted a controlled drug by from Trebesi. The police will argue the officer who shot Guizan was reacting to a volatile situation. That’s all probably true, though it doesn’t account for the fact that the police created those volatile circumstances in the first place. It also doesn’t account for the fact that had Guizan been the one who misjudged the threat and shot and killed one of the raiding officers, he’d almost certainly be in Ryan Frederick’s shoes right now. Guizan’s parents—who lost their only other son in a car accident—are considering a lawsuit.” Full article Here: http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/09/gonzalo ...
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Hollies Bus Stop
Frankfurt Am Main, Germany
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Holly Golightly wrote: 1) To voice an opinion about an issue meaningful to oneself; particularly if he/she genuinely believes variables involved in that issue have (or could) cause harm to someone else is one thing.
2)But unremitting, merciless efforts to publicly extinguish every shred of dignity of another human being is not “voicing an opinion or expressing freedom of speech.” 1. You mean like voicing opinions and linking to published sources from the public domain on the dangerous use of paramilitary civilian police forces? Showing examples of innocent peoples lives ruined, if not snuffed out due to poor, negligent and even criminal police behaviour? 2. Such as whom? Ron Jones, a guy actually liked in person? Who “mercilessly” brought him up on this thread? It was you. Who seems to have lied about the truth? It was you, as shown by numerous credible, published and public sources, to include not only the city’s attorney but the departments own records. Telling the truth is not murder “Holly”, but it is “voicing an opinion or expressing freedom of speech”. You know, exactly as you used to do. And don’t think for a moment that every single one of your comments railing against bad, specifically named police and their behaviour (which mysteriously and very, very cozily have been deleted) are not cached, and backed up on disc (multiple copies, multiple places). Just like the vile threats made by certain of our “finest”. If you have something that shows all these sources are wrong, then you’re hereby publically challenged to document it. No excuses, document it. Otherwise you continue to have no credibility. After all, no one wants an innocent person punished in any way, least of all you, right? In fact “Holly”, if you have such information and are withholding it, are not you guilty of a crime both morally and legally? You are. So either you are a self confessed “murderer of the soul”, or you’re a hypocrite who cares nothing about the damage and ruined lives caused by rogues hiding behind badges in our midst. Or both. And “relationships” seem to have a higher priority in your book than does truth and concern for the well being of our community. Don’t be casting stones “Holly” when you’ve been captured on DVD disc throwing them yourself, big time. And it is truly amazing what has been captured on DVD (multiple copies, multiple places); should make international news. Just like the Cheerleader Scandal – except much worse.
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How Inconsiderate
Houston, TX
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Holly Golightly wrote: A ) failure to retract a news story can mean the maligned party took the high road as is the case with Capt. Ron Jones, who was simply gracious enough to let it pass.
B) But I do know that while the story was quickly dropped a) A pure non-sequitur of the highest order. Failure to retract a story has nothing to do with the subject of the story taking any road. It has to do only with the fact that the story has never been retracted. For good reason, it’s true. b) No it wasn’t and no it has not ever been dropped. That’s a direct lie,“Holly”. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/n... “McKinney officer accused of sexual harassment crossed line, report says 06:23 PM CDT on Saturday, September 1, 2007 By STEVE THOMPSON / The Dallas Morning News “ But you just had to go and put poor Captain Jones indiscretion back in the limelight after all had forgotten, didn’t you “Holly”? How sad for the poor man and his family that you are so inconsiderate. Again, you’ve been publically challenged to back up what you write.. And try doing it without making thinly veiled threats that can be tied to your relationships – that’s illegal you know,“Holly”. And we are very law abiding folks and tend to push for justice when we see laws being broken.
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Who is Holly
Dallas, TX
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Ok… so I’m a bit slow…. I just read this post and can't seem to figure out who Holly is and what her relationship is in all of this. There are several innuendo’s and implied references to various things, like DVD’s, etc, but I still have no clue who "Holly" is.. Can someone just come out and say it?!?
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Look up there
AOL
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Holly Golightly. See name above?
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Swatgirl
Arlington, TX
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Just dropped by to see if your keeping yourselves entertained. I know it must be boring to only have 3 people in your circle of friends but at least you have common interests.:)
Swatgirl, OUT! lol
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Holly Golightly
Plano, TX
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Look up there: Thank you so much. You're a sweetie, but its going to be okay. :)
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Holly Golightly
Plano, TX
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Hollie's Bus Stop: Somewhere I read where a journalist wrote: "I keep telling myself to calm down, to take less of an interest in things and not to get so excited, but I still care a lot about liberty, freedom of speech and expression, and fairness in journalism." So do I. But sometimes I’ll be half-way or more into a story only to learn (for any myriad of reasons, none of them intentional) that one or more of my sources mislead me. Very embarrassing when that happens. Even worse, I’ll be working on a story, absolutely DETERMINED to get it out when it dawns on me it could be a very dangerous thing to do. Those are the most crushing; realization that I simply cannot write the story as I know it. It took years for me to figure that out. Years. Every one of them filled with sleepless nights and nightmares on those nights I could sleep. Devastating sometimes, the realization that in the days we live, a writer must be very careful about what he/she writes.
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Holly Golightly
Plano, TX
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When you first began blogging, you wrote with the skill of a seasoned journalist. I may or may not have agreed with everything you said, but there was no denying you were a skillful writer. That said, I’m going to speak to you as one journalist to another. I don’t mind at all if you want to expose my identity. As writers, we choose or choose not to write under pseudonyms. Admittedly, I’m an extroverted introvert, but if it somehow helps you to expose my identity, I’m okay with that. But claiming I’ve made threats…I’m not so okay with that, so upon reading I’d been accused of threatening someone (!) I presented every thing I wrote to a trusted attorney; one whose practice has earned him the reputation of a “lawyer’s lawyer” both in Dallas and Washington, D.C. Lest you doubt me, I am willing to personally introduce you to him. I know for a fact I’ve never threatened anyone in my life (unless you count my daughter whose teen years would have driven the entire Vatican including the Pope and an entire convent to do the same). Absolutely I knew I’d not made a threat of any kind, but in the event I’d unwittingly said something that someone could misinterpret I immediately turned to the above referenced attorney who promptly assured me I’d done no such thing.
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