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Fresh round of 'Macedonia' talks

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#205
Aug 6, 2008
 
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<quoted text>Hey you stinky old greek,dont talk to me again,I just cant handle the smell from you anymore....
PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.... Monkey, eat your banana and in your cage NOW!
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Aug 6, 2008
 
GREECE: FREEDOM or DEATH (1821)
FYROVARDARIA: BANANA or DEATH (1991)
The history repeats its self always as a farce
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Aug 6, 2008
 
Istor wrote:
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Would any German allow any Slavic people around and their country be called Bavarian?
Is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella_curse_tabl... Macedonian?
Macedonians have always been Greeks. Recently we have fought successfully for our Greekness against your attempt to slavicize Macedonia and Macedonians.
The Balkan wars 1912-1913 , and later ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Macedonians committed by the Greeks, you can find and read this:

“….After the Balkan Wars, Macedonia was completely devastated. Besides the tens of thousands killed in the war, there were several hundreds of thousands of refugees (more than 135,000 Macedonians and a small number of Bulgarians from Thrace escaped from the Aegean part of Macedonia occupied by the Greek army alone). There were numerous cases of genocide towards the Macedonian population in the territories occupied by the Greek, Serbian and Bulgarian armies and, according to the Carnegie Commission, several towns like Voden, Negush, Ber, Enidze Vardar, Dojran, etc., more than 200 villages (out of which around 170 villages with 17,000 homesteads in the Aegean part of Macedonia) were completely destroyed. In June 1913 the Greek army burnt to ashes the Macedonian town of Kukush with its 1,846 houses, 612 shops, 6 factories, etc. At the same time 4,000 houses were burned to the ground in the Seres vicinity. The tragic outcome of the Balkan Wars was a real national catastrophe for Macedonia. The unresolved Macedonian question continued to be "an apple of discord" for the Balkan states. It remained in the whirlpool of events which were of fatal importance both for Macedonia and the future of the Balkans…”

and read this:

Encyclopedia Britannica,
….1912-13) Alliance of Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece, and Montenegro, fought the first Balkan War against the Ottoman Empire. Ostensibly created to limit Austrian power in the Balkans, the league was actually formed at the instigation of Russia to expel the Turks from the Balkans. The league disintegrated when its members quarreled over the division of territorial spoils after their victory in the first Balkan War….

*****If you want, you can see that no one of the Balkan League states (Greece,Serbia,Bulgaria) had any pre-League legal or public claim on any part of the whole entity of Macedonia, the oldest European country .
*****If you want, you can admit that Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria government,(before to occupy and partition Macedonia in 1912) lied to their publics that they (Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria) were going to liberate “our Christian brothers” Macedonian people and Macedonian country.
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#208
Aug 7, 2008
 
GREECE: FREEDOM or DEATH (1821)
FYROVARDARIA: BANANA or DEATH (1991)
The history repeats its self always as a farce (as Srbomakedonac)
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Aug 7, 2008
 
VasilyMK wrote:
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We are not pure: We have Paionian, Macedonian, Brygian, Greek, Illyrian, Slavic etc... origin.
But you don't have nothing with the Macedonians except that Macedonians kick your asses every fuckin' year. Because of that your brains began to dry and now you don't know what are you saying BAHAHAHA :))))
How can you have Macedonian bla, bla when its recorded by historians that you slavgypsies appeared 1000 years after Alexanders time ?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum.”

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#210
Aug 7, 2008
 
PRIAPOS wrote:
GREECE: FREEDOM or DEATH (1821)
FYROVARDARIA: BANANA or DEATH (1991)
The history repeats its self always as a farce (as Srbomakedonac)
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HELL ASS: BLACK COCK or DEATH (1821)
Yes the history will repeat for you Ethiopio-Yunanistani :D
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Aug 7, 2008
 
VasilyMK wrote:
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UPDATE
HELL ASS: BLACK COCK or DEATH (1821)
Yes the history will repeat for you Ethiopio-Yunanistani :D
How can you have Macedonian bla, bla when its recorded by historians that you slavgypsies appeared 1000 years after Alexanders time ?

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Men of Athens
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery

If you prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the Hellenic cause, to acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians.

I am Alexander of Macedon.

(Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45)
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Aug 7, 2008
 
VasilyMK wrote:
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UPDATE
HELL ASS: BLACK COCK or DEATH (1821)
Yes the history will repeat for you Ethiopio-Yunanistani :D
I was sure that you will twisted that post of mine too. I was 100000000% sure. Because i know you very well, i know that you are thieves and monkeys.
Dobar den Mr Vasilaki with your GREEK NAME
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#213
Aug 7, 2008
 
THE Official Website of Beijing 2008 correct the name of FYROM!!!

http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/official/noc/eo...
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#214
Aug 7, 2008
 
THE Official Website of Beijing 2008 correct the name of FYROM!!!
http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/official/noc/eo ...
It's time Gruevski to write a LETTER to president of China.
Zdravo Mr Presidenci
Dali govoris makedonski?
Jas se vikam Nikolaki Gruios-Gruev - Gruevski
Yas sum od Vardarska Banovina
Ovoy gospodin Karamanlis ke plati se..
OOOppps! Zhalam...
Kade e toaletot?
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#215
Aug 7, 2008
 
The name under which FYROM will appear in the opening ceremony is registered with the International Olympic Committee (IOC) as was the case at the Olympic Games in Athens and Sydney
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#216
Aug 9, 2008
 
PRIAPOS wrote:
GREECE: FREEDOM or DEATH (1821)
FYROVARDARIA: BANANA or DEATH (1991)
The history repeats its self always as a farce
i will supply two bananas if it helps them die a slow death
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Aug 11, 2008
 
Gkazoza wrote:
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i will supply two bananas if it helps them die a slow death
*****In 1912-13 Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria occupied Makedonija committing genocide against Macedonian people.
*****. Before the occupation in 1912-13, no a part of Makedonija was under occupation of Greece . The Greeks made up only 10% of the population of Makedonija in 1912.
*****Greece is bamboozling the world regarding Makedonija.
*****Greece says that two(2) ancient Macedonian rulers in 4 th century BC ,Filip II and Alexandar III Makedonski respected Hellenism and were accepted by Hellenic leagues.
*****Greece doesn’t say that the Greeks started war(Lamian war) fighting against Macedonian kingdom immediately they heard the news of Aleksandar’s death in 323 BC . Since then, Kingdom of Makedonija and Hellenic counties(the Greeks) would never be together.
*****Greece doesn’t say that Hellenic counties(the Greeks) and Kingdom of Makedonija were bad neighbors ,frequently fighting wars for more than 400 years before the time of Filip II’s rule in 4 th century.
*****The Macedonians direct attention to the fact that other than Filip II and Aleksandar III Makedonski no any Macedonian in 2800 long history of the oldest European country of Makedonija, was accepted by Hellenic leagues and that no a Greek was ever said to be Macedonian by the Macedonians.
*****Unpunished crime in 1912-13 against the Macedonians resulted in series of new genocides all over the world, ever since then. The criminals got encouraged.
*****Humanity has to stop genocide! Each and every human being is obliged to say stop to criminal and genocide.
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#218
Aug 11, 2008
 
When people have no pride they resort to lies and propaganda.
No theories, no more propaganda links, no more half truths distorted to fit, no more ignorance, just facts.

Macedonian script found
Macedonian tombstones found

that is a fact

from 4th Cetntury BC (at least)

the names of all dead Macedonians on the Tombstones were Greek like Xenokratis,
the Script Pella curse was in Greek

all macedonian coins in Greek

Philip, Alexander, Olympia are all Greek names that mean something in Greek

Alexander the A participated the olympic games (only Greeks allowed at that time)

Philip the Macedon (-on) founded the first united Greek state 3000 years ago
he named it Koinon ton Ellinon

Commonwealth of the GREEKS
Macedonia, Athens, Thessaly, Pelloponesos and other (and only) Greek states were members

All macedonian colonies and cities of the East were Greek speaking (ieAlexandria, Bactrian Greece)

Macedonians had the ancient Greek religion

After Alexanders death the Macedonian Kingdoms of the East were the reason that period of time is called Hellenistic (greek)

Alexander himself declared himself Greek
Only the enemies of Macedonia disputed its Greek "purity" (dont like the word but that was the way of the time) like his main adversary Demosthenis the Athenian

That as far as ancients macedonians is concerned,

Macedonia as other parts of Greece was later on under Roman rule, then the Roman Empire into West and East, Constantiniple was founded and thus started the East roman period that was quicly renamed Byzantine because of the main nation of the East Roman Empire were the Byzantine Greeks.

in the 6th century the slavs came down and slowely managed to settle in the most northern Greek territories like Romylia, Thraki and macedonia.(the bulgarian slavs)

During the ottoman ocupation the christian people with no borders between them moved freely especially in Macedonia.

During the war to liberate Macedonia by Ottoman rule the Bulgarians based on the bulgar speaking people that lived in some parts of Macedonia tried to occupy the whole. Greece supported the Macedonian fellow Greeks against the Bulgarian army and the bulgarian gorrilas within macedonia.

They lost, Greece won.

Tito in order avoid the bulgar speaking part of Vardaska to seek unification with bulgaria and to put pressure on Greeks (hoping to get access to the port of Thessaloniki) forced the Vardaskans to change names, changed their alphabet, provided fake "identiies and invented a new nation".

as far as thessaloniki is concerned and because I have heard enough bullshit
In the Language that Macedonians spoke in ancient times Thessalonini meant victory over thessaly (thats why its was named like that, it was the name of Kassander's wife, Alexander's sister,

In only one language Thessalo-niki means victory over Thessaly and that unfortunatelly for all you Slavs is GREEK.

So I do agree with slogans like
Free macedonia

Free North macedonia from the slavs and let it be returned to its rightfull owners GREECE
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Aug 12, 2008
 
One only needs to examine the following CONTEMPORARY source to find out that the part of Macedonia that today constitutes Greek Macedonia has been inhabited by ethnic Greeks in the beginning of the 20th century. That's why the Greeks fought a prolonged, hard, bloody and for many years undercover war to liberate Macedonia from BOTH the Turkish oppressive rule and BULGARIAN TERRORISM:

NYT article on the ethnicities of Macedonians ca 1900:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...

It is worth-mentioning that the above account of Macedonian ethnicities does not mention anything about any 'pure ethnic Macedonian' group. On the contrary it is in full agreement with Dr. Borza's view that modern Macedonia and its people, the Macedonians, have been multi-ethnic, multilingual and multicultural since the Middle Ages.

Also, here is a touching picture that proves the abundant Greek element in Macedonia even FURTHER NORTH OF THE MODERN GREECE-FYROM/Yugoslavia borderline!

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/macedonia-mu...

So if the Skopje pseudo-Macedonian Reich continues putting forth claims for 'Macedonian minorities' in neighboring countries, these countries and namely, Greece, will probably put forth similar questions. Why are there no Greek and Bulgarian minorities in FYROM? Why does not this country, claiming to be the RoM, provide ALL Macedonians, regardless of ethnicity, language etc. citizenship and passport?

So my advice is that you the Skopje regime should be proud of what they are and not what they want to be...
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Aug 13, 2008
 
Makedonikos Agonas wrote:
One only needs to examine the following CONTEMPORARY source to find out that the part of Macedonia that today constitutes Greek Macedonia has been inhabited by ethnic Greeks in the beginning of the 20th century. That's why the Greeks fought a prolonged, hard, bloody and for many years undercover war to liberate Macedonia from BOTH the Turkish oppressive rule and BULGARIAN TERRORISM:
NYT article on the ethnicities of Macedonians ca 1900:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...
It is worth-mentioning that the above account of Macedonian ethnicities does not mention anything about any 'pure ethnic Macedonian' group. On the contrary it is in full agreement with Dr. Borza's view that modern Macedonia and its people, the Macedonians, have been multi-ethnic, multilingual and multicultural since the Middle Ages.
Also, here is a touching picture that proves the abundant Greek element in Macedonia even FURTHER NORTH OF THE MODERN GREECE-FYROM/Yugoslavia borderline!
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/macedonia-mu...
So if the Skopje pseudo-Macedonian Reich continues putting forth claims for 'Macedonian minorities' in neighboring countries, these countries and namely, Greece, will probably put forth similar questions. Why are there no Greek and Bulgarian minorities in FYROM? Why does not this country, claiming to be the RoM, provide ALL Macedonians, regardless of ethnicity, language etc. citizenship and passport?
So my advice is that you the Skopje regime should be proud of what they are and not what they want to be...
*****Some CONTEMPORARY whatever ,-journalist,propagandist ,historians, etc,etc,maliciously cover the facts that all occupants of Makedonija(the Ottomans before and Greece,Serbia,Bulgaria after 1912-13) would officially announce there were no Macedonians in Makedonija,(all of them trying to assimilate the Macedonians.)
*****Macedonian people liberated 37% of Makedonija in 1944 year.
*****There are 3-4 million Macedonians today, proud to say Makedonija is 2800 year old ,the oldest European country.
*****After occupation of 51% of Makedonija in 1912-13 ,about 1 500 000 Greeks were inhabited in “Greek Macedonia” thus chainging the ethnic structure of the population of Macedonija,( under forced deportation from Turkey in 1923 and later-“Treaty of Lausanne”)!
*****. Before the occupation in 1912-13, no a part of Makedonija was ever under occupation of Greece . The Greeks made up only 10% of the population of Makedonija in 1912-13,but Greece occupied 51 % of Makedonija and created “Greek Macedonia”for the first time in history.
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Aug 13, 2008
 
Srbomakedonac wrote:
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*****Some CONTEMPORARY whatever ,-journalist,propagandist ,historians, etc,etc,maliciously cover the facts that all occupants of Makedonija(the Ottomans before and Greece,Serbia,Bulgaria after 1912-13) would officially announce there were no Macedonians in Makedonija,(all of them trying to assimilate the Macedonians.)
*****Macedonian people liberated 37% of Makedonija in 1944 year.
*****There are 3-4 million Macedonians today, proud to say Makedonija is 2800 year old ,the oldest European country.
*****After occupation of 51% of Makedonija in 1912-13 ,about 1 500 000 Greeks were inhabited in “Greek Macedonia” thus chainging the ethnic structure of the population of Macedonija,( under forced deportation from Turkey in 1923 and later-“Treaty of Lausanne”)!
*****. Before the occupation in 1912-13, no a part of Makedonija was ever under occupation of Greece . The Greeks made up only 10% of the population of Makedonija in 1912-13,but Greece occupied 51 % of Makedonija and created “Greek Macedonia”for the first time in history.
oh you document everything I see!!! IMarton tin vlakia sou Imarton!!!
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One only needs to examine the following CONTEMPORARY source to find out that the part of Macedonia that today constitutes Greek Macedonia has been inhabited by ethnic Greeks in the beginning of the 20th century. That's why the Greeks fought a prolonged, hard, bloody and for many years undercover war to liberate Macedonia from BOTH the Turkish oppressive rule and BULGARIAN TERRORISM:

NYT article on the ethnicities of Macedonians ca 1900:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...

It is worth-mentioning that the above account of Macedonian ethnicities does not mention anything about any 'pure ethnic Macedonian' group. On the contrary it is in full agreement with Dr. Borza's view that modern Macedonia and its people, the Macedonians, have been multi-ethnic, multilingual and multicultural since the Middle Ages.

Also, here is a touching picture that proves the abundant Greek element in Macedonia even FURTHER NORTH OF THE MODERN GREECE-FYROM/Yugoslavia borderline!
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/macedonia-mu...

So if the Skopje pseudo-Macedonian Reich continues putting forth claims for 'Macedonian minorities' in neighboring countries, these countries and namely, Greece, will probably put forth similar questions. Why are there no Greek and Bulgarian minorities in FYROM? Why does not this country, claiming to be the RoM, provide ALL Macedonians, regardless of ethnicity, language etc. citizenship and passport?

So my advice is that you the Skopje regime should be proud of what they are and not what they want to be...
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Aug 17, 2008
 
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Romania recognise macedonian language as minority language in his country, and ask to be recognised in Council of Europe and EU

Thank you Romania,
Salut Romania,

The Macedonian people like Romania and Romanian people so much even though Romanian people liberated the Greeks fighting against the Ottomans .
The Greeks are writing about their"glorious history " but no a Greek ever said thank you to Romanian people for liberating them,
(Romanian people were fighting against the Ottomans to liberate the Greeks,)
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Aug 18, 2008
 
MALAKA, HISTORY THIEV AND LIER:
You are pretty good in altering history to suite your needs. First of all you dont have a history you are not Greek so therefore cant be Macedonian. Why do you deny your Bulgarian ancestry? Are you that embarrased?
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