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hhhmmm
Hindman, KY
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Amatuer in Charge wrote: <quoted text> Here you go with some facts...don't let them get in your way and start calling me names because it does not fit your liberal agenda.. CNSNews.com )- President Barack Obama has been increasing the national debt during his presidency by an average of $4.24 billion per day ($4,240,506,004.34) putting him on a pace to increase the national debt by $6.2 trillion ($6,195,379,272,340.74) by the end of his term on Jan. 20, 2013, according to the debt figures published by the U.S. Treasury. That $6.2 trillion is more debt than was accumulated by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Bill Clinton combined. In fact, the U.S. national debt did not eclipse the $6.195 trillion level—the amount Obama is on pace to increase it in one term—until August 19, 2002, during President George W. Bush’s second year of office. The national debt was $10.6 trillion ($10,626,877,048,913.08) on Jan. 20, 2009, the day Obama was inaugurated. As of the close of business on Jan. 11, 2012, it was $15.2 trillion ($15,236,307,075,631.58.) In Obama’s first 1,087 days in office, the debt increased $4.6 trillion ($4,609,430,026,718.50)—or an increase of $4.24 billion ($4,240,506,004.34) per day. So your "facts" are coming from the Treasury Dept. huh? Well if you want "Actual Facts" you might want to try going to see what the National Debt. Agency has to say about your not even close "facts"! The National Debt Agency are you know, the people who actually keep up with all that real data and numbers on an every day basis! It's their actual job to do that and under the Freedom of Information Act, you too can go to their site and educate yourself on true facts, as can anyone! Fact is, G. W. Bush Jr's very last day in office, according to the people whose job it actually is to keep up with this information for the American People, the National Debt Clock on Bush's last day showed well over 12 Trillion Dollars! That is actual facts for ya! Not from Fox News or Cspan or Cnn or CBS or NBC or any MEDIA outlet who all twist this crap to suit their story line! This is from the people who get paid by the American Tax Payers to keep up with the numbers with nobody twisting it any way! Go check it out for yourself! It's National Debt Agency . com!
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Out to destroy America
Virgie, KY
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"Obama" is a name from the Luo ethnic group of southwestern Kenya, where Barack Obama, Sr. was born. It was originally the given name of Barack Obama's great-grandfather. It is based on the Luo (technically, Dholuo, the name of the language of the Luo) word bam, which means "crooked, slightly bending." The prefix O- means "he Please read this with an open mind on matter whatever your political preference. It IS important... A MUST READ BY AMERICANS!!! Steve Kroft (born August 22, 1945) is an American journalist and a longtime correspondent for "60 Minutes". His investigative reporting has garnered him much acclaim, including three Peabody Awards and nine Emmy awards, one of which was an Emmy for Lifetime AchievementYou can understand what is happening to our America after reading this. May God have mercy upon our nation. ********** One Evil Human FROM STEVE KROFT ("60 Minutes") This is very interesting material. Glen Beck has been developing material to show all the ties that Soros has through the nation and world along with his goals. This article is written by Steve Kroft from "60 Minutes". It begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress). If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is "selective" in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible. He controls President Obama's every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this. You won't regret it. Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don't think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama's reluctance to accept help on the oil spill you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US ? "In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it."/ Franklin Delano Roosevelt Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS' Mr. Steve Kroft's research has turned up. It's a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. "The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States . "George Soros" George Soros is an evil man. He's anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good." He killed and robbed his own Jewish people. What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath's lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way, and just loves to do social engineering and change cultures. György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 inHungary . Soros' father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz's, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s. When Hitler's henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary , to oversee the murder of that country's Jews, George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds.
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Out to destroy America
Virgie, KY
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Soros has repeatedly called 1944 "the best year of his life." 70% of Mr. Soros's fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect" During an interview with "Sixty Minute's" Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his "best year." KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson. SOROS: Yes. Yes. KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes. KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult? SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it. KROFT: No feelings of guilt? SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power. In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having carried some rather "potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble." Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper's death in 1994. Two of Popper's most influential teachings concerned "the open society," and Fallibilism. Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken.(Then again, I could be wrong about that.) The "open society" basically refers to a "test and evaluate" approach to social engineering. Regarding "open society" Roy Childs writes, "Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper's advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess." In 1956 Soros moved to New York City , where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today. In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for "The American Thinker" she says, "Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England . He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight." In 1994 Soros crowed in "The New Republic ," that "the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire." The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be "one of the greatest social robberies in human history. "The "Soros Empire" indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia . At the time, Malaysia 's Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros "a = villain, and a moron." Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, "We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people."
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Out to destroy America
Virgie, KY
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The website Greek National Pride reports, "Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma] Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros' role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality." France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for "illegal market manipulation." Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary 's economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover. My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America ? Soros told Australia 's national newspaper "The Australian." "America , as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out," he said, adding that the time has come for "a very serious adjustment" in American's consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about." Soros: "World financial crisis was "stimulating" and "in a way, the culmination of my life's work." Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil , in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama's largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras). Tait Trussel writes, "The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil , but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence." A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch. com. Their mission: "This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world's poor, that justice will be served."
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Out to destroy America
Virgie, KY
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Back to America . Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that "Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous."\ In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, "Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His "open society" is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements." Perhaps the most important of these "whistle blowers" are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book "The Shadow Party" outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration. Discover The Networks. org (another good source) writes, "By his [Soros'] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia , Croatia , Georgia , and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for "regime change," he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup." November 2008 edition of the German magazine "Der Spiegel," in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S.) should do after taking office. "I think we need a large stimulus package." Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said that "I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U. S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights." Although Soros doesn't (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well. Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by "The Baltimore Chronicle's" Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by "a veritable who's who of former Republican leaders," from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr. In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney's old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that’s Five Billion ) to the Democratic National Committee, DNC, to insure Obama's win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene. Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren't bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn't forget to mention Soros' involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro's NEMESIS
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Out to destroy America
Virgie, KY
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As Matthew Vadum writes, "The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthrop ist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives." Richard Poe writes, "Soros' private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues underminingAmerica 's traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering." Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance , Media Matters for America , the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America ), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks. org. Poe continues, "Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia." Without Soros' money, would the Saul Alinsky's Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals? America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack Obama is leading the way. The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" ---------- Above information researched by CBS Steve Kroft "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from thosewho are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
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Out to destroy America
Virgie, KY
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http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/i... U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade. WASHINGTON (Reuters)- The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. On Wednesday, Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nationsand individuals such as (George Soros and Michael Bloomberg). The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship
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Proud Roof Bolter
Whitesburg, KY
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That is the biggest bunch of ridiculous and twisted crap I have ever saw in my entire life...it's amazing what people will write to futher their agenda. HA! Amazing! And to think that some people actually believe it....is even more amazing!
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Go Obama
Minnie, KY
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hhhmmm wrote: <quoted text> So your "facts" are coming from the Treasury Dept. huh? Well if you want "Actual Facts" you might want to try going to see what the National Debt. Agency has to say about your not even close "facts"! The National Debt Agency are you know, the people who actually keep up with all that real data and numbers on an every day basis! It's their actual job to do that and under the Freedom of Information Act, you too can go to their site and educate yourself on true facts, as can anyone! Fact is, G. W. Bush Jr's very last day in office, according to the people whose job it actually is to keep up with this information for the American People, the National Debt Clock on Bush's last day showed well over 12 Trillion Dollars! That is actual facts for ya! Not from Fox News or Cspan or Cnn or CBS or NBC or any MEDIA outlet who all twist this crap to suit their story line! This is from the people who get paid by the American Tax Payers to keep up with the numbers with nobody twisting it any way! Go check it out for yourself! It's National Debt Agency . com! Go Obama if mitt wins he will take my unemployment check an I don't want to work anyway I kind of like this I just might get an extension at least a nother year..I guess natural gas is the new power anyway my best advise to u get a check u know a S,S,I check an medical card so u all better vote for Obama he is for the coal miner just looking out for your health. But the coal mine owners will pay for their fines when they break the law that's why I thank the EPA for the great job that they doooooooo .........,Go OBAMA period
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Go Obama
Whitesburg, KY
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Out to destroy America wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/i... U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade. WASHINGTON (Reuters)- The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. On Wednesday, Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nationsand individuals such as (George Soros and Michael Bloomberg). The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship You are nutts an do not know what u are even saying what a joker u are. Forward this to..... GO OBAMA forward to everyone u know it would be very great of u sO PlEaSe dO sO tHaNk YoU mUcH aN gO oBaMa
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Out to Destroy America
Virgie, KY
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Proud Roof Bolter wrote: That is the biggest bunch of ridiculous and twisted crap I have ever saw in my entire life...it's amazing what people will write to futher their agenda. HA! Amazing! And to think that some people actually believe it....is even more amazing! I think that you won't be calling your self a roof bolter much longer with Obama in, unless you condsider bolting metal on house roofs. That pays quite a bit less than a mine roof bolter makes, and after all the mines are closed -thanks to Obama- no one will be able to aford a metal roof. Might want to change your name to "USE to be a PROUD ROOF BOLTER"
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Proud Roof Bolter
Whitesburg, KY
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Out to Destroy America wrote: <quoted text> I think that you won't be calling your self a roof bolter much longer with Obama in, unless you condsider bolting metal on house roofs. That pays quite a bit less than a mine roof bolter makes, and after all the mines are closed -thanks to Obama- no one will be able to aford a metal roof. Might want to change your name to "USE to be a PROUD ROOF BOLTER" Preaching "gloom and doom" has always been the rich republicans favorite "tool". They especially like, "They're going to take your guns", and "They're going to stop you from going to church". The sad part is...as displayed above...they brain wash some so bad that they carry on their work. The amazing thing is, the folks who are carring it on are usually working people who have never and will never prosper under republican rule. Example, eight years of Bush has brought this country to the brink of disaster, and they still vote republican. It's absolutly unbelivable how easly some people can be led to "slaughter", so to speak.
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Wake Up
Fairfield, OH
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Breath is wasted arguing with a Demoncrat. Blind Idiots.
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Go Obama
United States
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Wake Up wrote: Breath is wasted arguing with a Demoncrat. Blind Idiots. Wee I know who that I'm a voting for hmm let's see just look at the top if you are concerned thank you
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Proud Roof Bolter
Whitesburg, KY
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Wake Up wrote: Breath is wasted arguing with a Demoncrat. Blind Idiots. Name calling is another tactic I always see from a republican who can't explain why, even though they are working people, vote for the rich. The conservative base sit at their tables and snicker while these poor, unknowing working people are out spreading their agenda....so that when they get in office they can help the rich and the heck with the working class.
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American
Winchester, KY
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Go Obama wrote: <quoted text>Wee I know who that I'm a voting for hmm let's see just look at the top if you are concerned thank you Im a Democrat but may I ask why you are voting for Obama, What good has he done in your eyes to make him give you his vote. Im sorry but I cant find any in mine. I only use to think that George Bush was a bad president. Please respond if you can tell me any thing good about Obama.
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American
Winchester, KY
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Proud Roof Bolter wrote: <quoted text> Name calling is another tactic I always see from a republican who can't explain why, even though they are working people, vote for the rich. The conservative base sit at their tables and snicker while these poor, unknowing working people are out spreading their agenda....so that when they get in office they can help the rich and the heck with the working class. The Democrats once was for the working people but not any more, They want to take from you and give more to the ones that dont work. Question How are we going to give when no one else is employed to take it from. I guess no one can add and subtract anymore or have any common sense left to come up with a solution. The country is falling apart and all that most democrats say is its George Bushs fault when he didnt have us in this bad a mess that we are in today. We need to stand up a take our country back before its to late and get obama out of office.
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Go Obama
Minnie, KY
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American wrote: <quoted text> Im a Democrat but may I ask why you are voting for Obama, What good has he done in your eyes to make him give you his vote. Im sorry but I cant find any in mine. I only use to think that George Bush was a bad president. Please respond if you can tell me any thing good about Obama. Good question glad u ask in the alphabet the letter o comes before the letter m is why I vote this way it don't matter neither of the two iis worth a dam anyway mitt if he wins an us on a sinking ship he will want all the life vest as well....... Then that puts us still a bitching nothing different same shit don't matter but I'm still voting for Obama
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Amercian
Richmond, KY
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Go Obama wrote: <quoted text>Good question glad u ask in the alphabet the letter o comes before the letter m is why I vote this way it don't matter neither of the two iis worth a dam anyway mitt if he wins an us on a sinking ship he will want all the life vest as well....... Then that puts us still a bitching nothing different same shit don't matter but I'm still voting for Obama That's the only reason your voting for Obama is because of the alphabet, no wonder this country is in the shape it is. M comes before O not O before M
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Go Obama
Flatgap, KY
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Amercian wrote: <quoted text> That's the only reason your voting for Obama is because of the alphabet, no wonder this country is in the shape it is. M comes before O not O before M LOL excuse me I meant B then M but sorry anyway I don't step in #2 I think I will stay with Obama
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