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Fact is, whose mess Obama walked into, as any new president does, is beside the point, he was and is unqualified to run this country. And his record to date shows it all to clearly. It is time to trade up !
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As long as you remain in the minority of these polls you will still be preaching this same tune. Here is a Reality Check for you.
President Obama inherited G.W. Bush's economy, not Bill Clinton's.
Even if Romney balances the budget in his first term in office and we are able to eliminate all taxes your polls will still show him losing to Obama by 13%. Fact is liberals don't accept failure very well especially when success is in such short supply like it is with Obama. As far as inheriting Bush's economy goes, Obama knew exactly what he was getting and even formulated a plan to make America prosperous again (At least that is what he said). We have seen none of what he said we would see and now he is trying to blame someone else for his failures and it isn't working with the voters despite what your liberal polls say. If a losing football team hires a new coach. That coach has a plan he feels will make the football team a winning program again. He pitches his plan to the atheletic director and gets hired. The contract is for four years and $2 million per year. The university agrees to every assistant coach that the new coach wants and their salaries. Mid way through his third year the football team is 1-5 and the overall record for the new coach's tenure is 6-23. Boosters have cut back or stopped donating and ticket sales are down 25%. The football program has spent millions on new facilities that the new coach said he needed in order to take the program to the next level. The football program is now not able to make its own way financially. Big time recruits are now going to school elsewhere. The university fires the coach and buys out his final year. Do you think the fired coach would be heard on ESPN saying that it was the former coaches fault that he could not succeed. No!!! The fired coach would go out and take full responsibility for his actions. The actions that led to a 6-23 mark through 3 1/2 yrs of a 4 yr contract. What is different about Obama's presidency? He said he knew what he was getting into but the results were not what he said they would be. He has the nerve to blame someone (Bush) who has no control over his actions as president. Now instead of getting fired he is asking for a 4 yr extension. Why should the president be any different than any other job? It shouldn't, you just can't accept that because Obama is considered to be the liberal savior.
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"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see".
I can sure agree to that, back in 2000 Gore was ahead in the polls and the SCOTUS, showed me the polls were wrong.
Liberalism is just like that Fabreeze commercial where they bring blindfolded people into a dump of a room that has been sprayed with Fabreeze. They ask them what they smell and they all say that the room smells like a fresh spring day or something like that. They take off the blindfold and the people are shocked that something so unlivable could smell so good. To the rest of the world liberals are rolling around on that filthy couch that needs to be taken to the dump and saying "It smells like fresh roses on a bright clear spring day". Take off the blindfold Barney!!!

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Liberalism is just like that Fabreeze commercial where they bring blindfolded people into a dump of a room that has been sprayed with Fabreeze. They ask them what they smell and they all say that the room smells like a fresh spring day or something like that. They take off the blindfold and the people are shocked that something so unlivable could smell so good. To the rest of the world liberals are rolling around on that filthy couch that needs to be taken to the dump and saying "It smells like fresh roses on a bright clear spring day". Take off the blindfold Barney!!!
Preach on brother, preach on..........

Your are still in the minority.

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mama bear wrote:
Fact is, whose mess Obama walked into, as any new president does, is beside the point, he was and is unqualified to run this country. And his record to date shows it all to clearly. It is time to trade up !
AND More from Fox News and mama bear, right after this message from our sponsor..........
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Preach on brother, preach on..........
Your are still in the minority.
Only in Liberalville of which I want no part of.
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AND More from Fox News and mama bear, right after this message from our sponsor..........
Hey Barney, don't worry, Mitt Romney is walking into a situation that is far worse than the one Obama walked into. I bet he doesn't blame Obama except the time from Nov 7 until the time when he gets sworn in. From that point forward it will be 100% on Romney's shoulders. The formula is simple: Reduce spending, reform entitlements to something smaller and sustainable, cut taxes to a rate where businesses who are sitting on cash or have relocated overseas will begin to hire and invest again or bring operations back home, and bring in a flat income tax rate for all citizens with no deductions or loopholes that is around 10%-20%. Do that and we will see this ship begin to turn around.
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Liberalism is just like that Fabreeze commercial where they bring blindfolded people into a dump of a room that has been sprayed with Fabreeze. They ask them what they smell and they all say that the room smells like a fresh spring day or something like that. They take off the blindfold and the people are shocked that something so unlivable could smell so good. To the rest of the world liberals are rolling around on that filthy couch that needs to be taken to the dump and saying "It smells like fresh roses on a bright clear spring day". Take off the blindfold Barney!!!
My God man, get a grip.

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Hey Barney, don't worry, Mitt Romney is walking into a situation that is far worse than the one Obama walked into. I bet he doesn't blame Obama except the time from Nov 7 until the time when he gets sworn in. From that point forward it will be 100% on Romney's shoulders. The formula is simple: Reduce spending, reform entitlements to something smaller and sustainable, cut taxes to a rate where businesses who are sitting on cash or have relocated overseas will begin to hire and invest again or bring operations back home, and bring in a flat income tax rate for all citizens with no deductions or loopholes that is around 10%-20%. Do that and we will see this ship begin to turn around.
Mittens sprinkeled fairy dust over his kingdom and
every one in the USA lived happily ever after.

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I am shocked, you of all people accusing Mitt of flip-flopping on jobs. "bring operations back home"
What are you thinking?

But as the Washington Post reported, Bain Capital, the private equity firm that Romney headed, played its own part in sending jobs to low-wage countries, including China. In fact, Bain “invested in a series of firms that specialized in relocating jobs done by American workers to new facilities in low-wage countries like China and India.”

In one example, Bain was the largest shareholder in a company called Modus Media, which “specialized in helping companies outsource their manufacturing“:


Modus Media told the SEC it was performing outsource packaging and hardware assembly for IBM, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard Co. and Dell Computer Corp. The filing disclosed that Modus had operations on four continents, including Asian facilities in Singapore, Taiwan, China and South Korea, and European facilities in Ireland and France, and a center in Australia.[...]

According to a news release issued by Modus Media in 1997, its expansion of outsourcing services took place in close consultation with Bain. Terry Leahy, Modus’s chairman and chief executive, was quoted in the release as saying he would be “working closely with Bain on strategic expansion.”.

Other companies that Bain invested in sent jobs all over the world, including to Ireland and Mexico, while Romney has tried to claim that Bain was all about creating jobs and turning around American companies that otherwise would have gone under.

As one of Romney’s former partners put it,”I never thought of what I do for a living as job creation…The primary goal of private equity is to create wealth for your investors.” And that’s what Bain did, even if it meant helping companies move operations to the same country Romney now blasts for stealing American jobs.
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The formula is simple: Reduce spending, reform entitlements to something smaller and sustainable, cut taxes to a rate where businesses who are sitting on cash or have relocated overseas will begin to hire and invest again or bring operations back home, and bring in a flat income tax rate for all citizens with no deductions or loopholes that is around 10%-20%. Do that and we will see this ship begin to turn around.
Pie in the frickin' sky.

Exactly the same tired old Republican bullshit but now with some newly added Republican bullshit that got us here and will keep us here.

Surely you can do us another light hearted and comical parody, I really like the lizard that sells car insurance.

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No the key word is YEARS. I am familiar with firms such as Bain. The services they provide last only a few months to a couple of years. Most of the examples you cited had a time frame of close to a decade of company operation after Bain left. Plenty of time for a multitude of things to happen that may cause a bankruptcy outside of Bain's influence. I know that doesn't fit your argument but the reality is that there is too much time that has gone by for these companies to blame their bankruptcies on Bain.
ROF-LMAO
" I know that doesn't fit your argument----- but"
The day after the Washington Post story, the New York Times detailed instances when Romney and other Bain executives earned large sums at a time when some companies they were involved with failed.
A key paragraph:
“The private equity firm, co-founded and run by Mitt Romney, held a majority stake in more than 40 United States-based companies from its inception in 1984 to early 1999, when Mr. Romney left Bain to lead the Salt Lake City Olympics. Of those companies, at least seven eventually filed for bankruptcy while Bain remained involved, or shortly afterward, according to a review by The New York Times. In some instances, hundreds of employees lost their jobs. In most of those cases, however, records and interviews suggest that Bain and its executives still found a way to make money.”
The New York Times published this response from Bain Capital:
“We understand that in a political campaign some may distort or our investment activity by cherry picking a few negative situations while ignoring our overall track record. But, the truth is that less than 5 percent of our companies filed for bankruptcy while under our control". UNQUOTE

" I am familiar with firms such as Bain"

AND THE TASTE OF CROW, I MIGHT ADD.
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Mittens sprinkeled fairy dust over his kingdom and
every one in the USA lived happily ever after.
Given what your guy has done and how loyal you are to him I know it's hard for you to conceive.
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ROF-LMAO
" I know that doesn't fit your argument----- but"
The day after the Washington Post story, the New York Times detailed instances when Romney and other Bain executives earned large sums at a time when some companies they were involved with failed.
A key paragraph:
“The private equity firm, co-founded and run by Mitt Romney, held a majority stake in more than 40 United States-based companies from its inception in 1984 to early 1999, when Mr. Romney left Bain to lead the Salt Lake City Olympics. Of those companies, at least seven eventually filed for bankruptcy while Bain remained involved, or shortly afterward, according to a review by The New York Times. In some instances, hundreds of employees lost their jobs. In most of those cases, however, records and interviews suggest that Bain and its executives still found a way to make money.”
The New York Times published this response from Bain Capital:
“We understand that in a political campaign some may distort or our investment activity by cherry picking a few negative situations while ignoring our overall track record. But, the truth is that less than 5 percent of our companies filed for bankruptcy while under our control". UNQUOTE
" I am familiar with firms such as Bain"
AND THE TASTE OF CROW, I MIGHT ADD.
One half of all businesses fail within five years and only 5% of Bain's did, sounds like they did 10X better than the norm.

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One half of all businesses fail within five years and only 5% of Bain's did, sounds like they did 10X better than the norm.
OKAY, name the companies in that 5%, that in been in business 5 years or less.
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Given what your guy has done and how loyal you are to him I know it's hard for you to conceive.
With his personality it would be hard for him to concieve.

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Given what your guy has done and how loyal you are to him I know it's hard for you to conceive.
I have to admit, Fairy Dust, and living happily ever after is hard for me to conceive.

From this post I guess you think its not.

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With his personality it would be hard for him to concieve.
I think it would be damn hard for any man to, "conceive" if you ask me, or are you relying on fuzzy biology and misspelled words?
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OKAY, name the companies in that 5%, that in been in business 5 years or less.
As you are famous for saying "You look it up, it's not my job", but in reality you are the one that is complaining about five per cent of the companies filing bankruptcy, that is a very low per cent age and if you were being honest you would have stated that the vast majority of those bankruptcies were reorganizations.
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I think it would be damn hard for any man to, "conceive" if you ask me, or are you relying on fuzzy biology and misspelled words?
manly men are a very important part in the conceiving process, and you are the last person on earth that should ever make an issue of a misspelling.

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