Pajaro Valley Unified School District 2008-09 fiscal year salar...

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happy one wrote:

Nurses are educated professionals who work hard. They should be compensated for their skills. Engineers make more, work less and no one seems to notice their education backgrounds are about the same as nurses. The only difference is most engineers are men. Would you really like an inexperienced poorly paid health care provider caring for you or your family members?

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happy one wrote:

Nurses are educated professionals who work hard. They should be compensated for their skills. Engineers make more, work less and no one seems to notice their education backgrounds are about the same as nurses. The only difference is most engineers are men. Would you really like an inexperienced poorly paid health care provider caring for you or your family members?

happy one wrote:

Nurses are educated professionals who work hard. They should be compensated for their skills. Engineers make more, work less and no one seems to notice their education backgrounds are about the same as nurses. The only difference is most engineers are men. Would you really like an inexperienced poorly paid health care provider caring for you or your family members?

Dont think so wrote:

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Nurses make pretty good money, they make wages that are comparable to engineers. Engineers don't have unions to protect them during economic downturns, engineers get laid off all the time and have to move continuously. They need to reeducate themselves on new technology. Engineers have a lot more schooling than nurses do. Bachelors degrees for engineers just doesn't get the job and people now have to get their masters to be competitive. If engineers were in the medical field they would be doctors or biomedical engineers. You can't compare nurses to doctors, just like there is no comparison between nurses and engineers. I respect nurses for their education and hard work, but the knowledge base for engineers is much higher. The work may be equally stressful depending on the kind of engineer you are or who you work for, the same goes for nursing.
An engineering technician may be at the same level as a nurse. They have basic knowledge of the technology but don't know theory or have the mathematics background as full fledged engineers. And no, I would prefer having nurses over nurses aids; if I am just having my blood pressure, body temperature, and bpm taken then a nurses aid can do it but I hope a nurse is there to interpret the results.

scat pittle wrote:

They called off the strike because there is no sympathy for workers earning in excess of $100k. Unions are a thing of the past. Ask any rank and file member.

foghorn wrote:

Bunny, engineers are designing products that can do just that. Kill people. If the engineers do not have it correct at the Lawrence Livermore ignition Facility they could wipe out all of california.
Lets get back to the issue of unions and compensation. Union compensation is based on job title and tenure not productivity, quality of work and metrics data.

Sick of It wrote:

Let them strike, every time someone stubs a toe in Santa Cruz County they are airlifted to Santa Clara so why do we even need them?

foghorn wrote:

Bunny.....not in the business world. You talk about delivering services in the contract. Agreed. It doesn't say how the services are delivered and how work performance is measured to justify pay increase. All nurses good or bad get a pay increase with new contract.
The engineer nurse comparison is irrelevant and you know it. We are talking about unions driving up the cost of healthcare. There is no beef with nurses what so ever. They are victims of a corrupt system. ALL professions are equally honorable.

foghorn wrote:

Once again I will state it. Unions drive up the cost of healthcare. Doesnt matter which one. I clearly stated all professions are honorable which they are. Unions have systematically destroyed all businesses they have had a hand in.
If you do not beleive unions are corrup ask to audit their financials and see where your union money is going. You would be very surprised and outraged. I know a union accountant and they have told me many horror stories of corruption and waste.
All professions have the public good at hand even dishwashers so that is again not relevant. You are obviously a nurse and I mean no attack on you or your profession. I will take umbrage with unions and you belong to one. I am sorry for that.